Monty13

He didn’t stop Flynn Clarke, I do find it rather ironic that one of his youth signings is actually in prison (well house arrest now). Must have been his upbringing as a young black man on the mean streets of Peterborough.

Are you just being deliberately obtuse now? It was what he actually said as Cowboy described that’s the issue, not what he may or may not have been wishing to highlight.

I thought Knapper gave a decent interview in January, but there’s so little to say until we get to the summer and he can start taking whatever actions he deems necessary. The fact it passed without much controversy didn’t mean there weren’t interesting insights, much like Attanasio’s comments. I always hated the idea Webber was some straight talker, he didn’t tell it like it is, he told it like he wanted.

Basically this, I’m really not sure what you’re not getting @lake district canary? There’s a difference between being a racist and saying something racist. What he said was objectively racist for the reasons above, why he said it is probably something for Webber to reflect on.

Delia and Michael are at every home game but we rarely get official interviews from them, not sure much would change there in terms of frequency.

What do you think he was referring to? In jail or …an accountant? maybe a doctor? Or an entrepreneur? In jail or something means something similarly bad, it’s not some get out because he said “or something” after it.

He could have said exactly the same thing without naming players, but no his ego got the better of him and he didn’t think for a second about what he was saying about them or how he was stereotyping men like them.

It’s exactly as it should be, my only issue would be I think this could have been published quicker IMO, before it even got to national news, simply because now it’s reactive rather than proactive. I presume The Pinkun made the club aware of the content in the interview.

I agree, but he is still contracted so I assume NCFC have some say in what he can say about his time here and presumably should have something in place in terms of NDA for when he’s not contracted. Would you not expect that? Also my point was more this isn’t something new he’s suddenly done since he’s off on gardening leave, he’s been putting his foot in it all throughout his tenure, you’d have thought someone would have spoken to him about it at some point as a senior manager reporting to the board. I 100% get your stance, merely pointing out I’m not sure I agree nothing could have been done by the club during his tenure (and even now to a certain extent) to prevent him bringing the club into disrepute.

Not sure that’s strictly true Purple. 1. he technically is still under contract by the club, just on gardening leave effectively, he confirmed that himself. 2. Depending on how you choose define Corporate Governance but I’d still argue part of a broad definition would include the boards responsibility to challenge management performance. Given the number of (increasingly worse) faux pas Webber has dropped in his time you could question whether he was challenged on his poor PR during his tenure as it doesn’t appear so.

Wow, just wow. Webber singles out 5 Black players as potentially being in jail if it wasn’t for football and you think that has nothing to do with race? It’s just campaigners “attention seeking as always” and “race-baiting”? Thats some next level mental gymnastics there.

That would be shockingly bad PR.

I don’t think anyone is calling for the club to stick the knife in or attack her husband. A simple this does not reflect the views of NCFC style statement should be the response, if she can’t support that that’s a huge conflict of interest. I’m one of those that has the view that Zoe is her own person and shouldn’t be tarnished by association with whatever her husband does just because she’s his wife, but by that same token she has to embody that. Publicly supporting the core values of NCFC shouldn’t be an issue for any employee.

Exactly it’s not hard to write it should have been out and made already. Taking the time to make a short distancing statement that’s so obviously required is not a good look IMO.

I really don’t see Ben Gibson staying he’s apparently one of the top earners and, as much as I personally like him, he’s done little to deserve that if true.

What they should be doing is distancing themselves from his comments. A simple statement would usually be expected not getting tweets pulled, story’s already out there.

Too late anyway, already seen it reported on in national press and Sky Sports.

I doubt that when you include, agent fees, signing on fees and wages. Didn’t lose much is more likely which isn’t a bad return anyway for a punt. The point being he was a total flop as a player so judging Knapper on one signing (that’s just a loan anyway) is really premature.

No Marshall was 2018. There were a lot of signings in 2017, some players who became staples to be fair but also a lot of crap, was pretty 50/50.

Marley Watkins was Webbers first signing, let’s give Knapper some time maybe.

The Pinkun tweets been deleted, they’ve replaced it with a tweet saying they don’t support discrimination, which in itself makes it clear the comment was discriminatory, at least from their perspective. People are questioning why they posted it in the first place, which I find odd. Journalists job is to print what is said, hiding what he said would be doing him a favour he doesn’t deserve. The failure if there is one, and maybe we’ll find out more when the whole interview is released, is potentially failing to challenge him on what he said not publishing it.

I don’t think anybody was suggesting we’d have kept Buendia after another relegation, perhaps even more unlikely we’d keep hold if he’d steered us to an unlikely survival. The fact we sold him wasn’t an issue given our model, the timing and manner was.

Which is true, someone clumsily, inadvertently or unthinkingly saying something racist does not make them a racist. His comment as said though appears racist whether intended or not. Especially because by all accounts it’s clearly not true about two of those mentioned by name, the five of which seem to have only been linked together because of the colour of their skin.

The amount of obnoxious abuse one poster gave for even suggesting this was a possibility…I also doubt it.

I’m not sure. I agree it would have been met with much nashing of teeth on here but I doubt the psychological damage would have been so pronounced. It’s clear we bought Tzolis and Sargent with an eye in future value, a few older heads and freebies would have been far cheaper. Let’s not pretend there was no money to spend, we brought in more than Rashica, Sargent and Tzolis. Of course nothing is certain, I would just argue the effect of losing Buendia was highly probable to be highly destructive and played out as expected IMO. Yes keeping him was also massively uncertain, I would simply argue it was less so.