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Monty13

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  1. 6 hours ago, Fen Canary said:

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing though isn’t it. We could have kept him and then have him suffer an injury like he has this season, then we’d all be ranting at Webber for stretching the squad too thin. A club our size will always need a healthy dollop of luck unfortunately, or an owner willing to burn through obscene amounts of cash in vain bid for personal glory 

    There’s a distinct difference between being unlucky and self destructive. That’s not hindsight.

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  2. 6 hours ago, Fen Canary said:

    Nobody knows what was agreed with Emi behind the scenes though, for all we know there could have been a gentleman’s agreement to give us one more year after the first relegation then he could move on if a decent offer came in. We can all guess but ultimately very little genuine info ever gets out into the public 

    Michael Bailey specifically confirmed there was no gentleman’s agreement. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, Christoph Stiepermann said:

    @Parma Ham's gone mouldy Does everyone in professional football think along these lines and think in terms of a plusvalenza outcome when setting up a team and when signing players consider "weapons" extremely valuable or is this just something you've learned from the specific clubs you've worked at? What I mean is are there managers and sporting directors who just think better players=better results and don't take the same approach to setting up teams and signing players and do you think the important people at our club would understand and agree with your posts if they read them? Or do you think they'd rubbish them and think no we just need better players all over the pitch and that football isn't that complicated?

    I know you've often said that coaches look for certain things and when talking about Wagner you've referenced your own posts when talking about your interpretation of what you see he's trying to do so you've alluded to the fact that people at our club do think in these terms but I'm just wondering if this is the widely accepted way of thinking within football that you're educating us on or if it's more of a niche way of thinking that you've picked up from working in Italy? We don't know much about Knapper obviously by this point and I know we have budgetary restrictions but in the past looking at some of our signings we often seem to go for neat and tidy players who don't have one outstanding attribute and don't really cause the opposition many problems and if the people in charge of our transfers thought about football like you do I don't see the sense in a lot of those signings. 

     

    I mean, we know Webber didn’t.


  4. 5 hours ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

    I love playing for free kicks. Having dangerous free kick specialists is an absolute must for any side. A ‘strike one’ (Sara) from 25 yards and a ‘flip and spin one’ (SVH it seems, though Nunez had a nice ‘hybrid’ version at the weekend). They are different techniques and very few can do both. The ‘strike feeling’ (and technical dynamic delivery) is very different. 

    Here is a stat for you from Samuel Seaman’s article today. A good warning for your confirmation bias: 

    ‘Norwich City didn’t score direct from a free-kick for 552 days between August 14, 2022 and February 17, 2024’

    Parma

    Jesus I had no idea it had been that long, that’s crazy. 

    I always forget a weapon by your definition is not a good player that produces something, goals and assists etc. but someone that creates a specific problem to be countered.

    It’s super interesting in those terms so few players fit the criteria.

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  5. 45 minutes ago, Indy said:

    But last year a lot of people were saying if we were reliant on Sargent we are in trouble! So is Wagner to be praised in how he’s bought through the younger players? Rowe, Sainz, Sargent, Sara? How good would we have been if we actually spent some decent money on younger better players than those old free journeymen? Even Knapper has said he wants to change the squad!

    Just to be clear, I’m behind Wagner, regardless of today’s result being disappointing. He’s in charge for the rest of the season, I want him to succeed.

    My issue was with the idea we have a mid table squad, it’s not IMO it’s a top 6 capable squad with a handful of extremely talented players.

    Wagner has been unfortunate with injuries, without them we’d surely be comfortable in the playoffs. However I don’t think that excuses just how dire we were during that early season period when we had injuries to key men.

    My argument would be it’s those 5-6 players that get you there. I don’t think whether the more average players in the squad are 20 or 30 makes huge difference (other than resale/development), it’s those key players that are the game changers.

    Oh and personally I’ve never doubted Sargent, I thought he was a 20+ goal striker this year, and evidence says he was if he hadn’t been out.

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  6. 5 minutes ago, Indy said:

    Sorry Monty, in their prime say five years ago absolutely agree! But we have these players in their 30’s or heading past their best! We have a bang average squad in my opinion…that’s just what I see, look at those above us and see who has anywhere near as many old journeymen in their squads or teams! 

    Agree to disagree, I think in hindsight Webber’s been a bit harshly judged for the summer, not that he didn’t deserve it overall. By no means a great summer but not a bad one overall.

    Yes there’s a lot of older pros but the general mix of this squad should be enough for top 6 IMO.

    The issue is just how bad we were without Sargent for that run. If we’d been able to keep up a slightly better rate in that time we’d already be there.


  7. 1 minute ago, Indy said:

    See this is where I disagree, we have a very average squad bar five players, Sargent, Sara, Nunez, Rowe & Gunn. McLeans been very solid, Duffy OK, but the rest just about championship mid table level!

    Peopke forget the quality of players we lost last season and replaced with very average players.

     

    There’s plenty more players that have played for us or another team in promotion winning squads.

    Sorry can’t agree this squads mid table. On top of Duffy and McClean there’s Gibson, Hanley, Barnes, Giannoulis and Stacy off top of my head.

    You mix the talent of the 5 you mentioned with the solidity that should be offered by players like this there is no way this squads mid table. Go look at the squads currently mid table.

    We aren’t in the league of Leicester, Southampton and Leeds…but neither is anyone else. We are arguably one of if not the best of the rest squads as you’d expect given our recent experience and expenditure.


  8. 3 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

    Got to be honest.. I know we’ve beaten both recently, but West Brom and especially Hull have more than us overall and we’re still and outside chance for top six IMO. Losing Rowe and now Nunez will cost us sadly. 

     

    More what exactly? 

    Fully fit would you genuinely swap our squad for either of theirs? Answers no for me.

    Only thing they’ve got more of overall IMO is points.


  9. 7 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

    We're not allowed to criticise Wagner are we? But boy, i feel very uncertain over his choices here. Never change a winning side they say, don't they?

    Can criticise Shef, but I think we need to wait for context. If Barnes is struggling things changing in the central spine start to make sense. 

    Less convinced on dropping Hernandez and McCallum unless there’s similar context, but the guys winning games so he gets the benefit of the doubt from me personally.

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  10. In the last 30 years Roeder easily no. 1 IMO, came across extremely unlikeable and a terrible manager of the team both on and off the pitch. Set the groundwork for relegation.

    Gunn unfortunately, he gets a pass in my eyes because he signed Holt but he never should have been appointed temporarily and giving the job permanently was madness.

    I’d probably go Grant for 3, nice man, poor manager.

    Hamilton probably gets more hate because of the Ipswich connections.

    I think Hughton and Smith objectively weren’t despite the very real issues both caused during their tenures personally.


  11. 1 hour ago, lake district canary said:

    My view is that it isn't terrible given the circumstances. It was a rough end to a PL season because of lockdown, then a superb season to get us back to the PL - and then another bum deal on circumstances.  Even if we had decent enough players and a settled team going into that second season, it would have been difficult enough, but we didn't, we didn't even have Nornann and Kabak to start with, after the covid truncated pre-season.

    The bare "6 wins in 49" thing ignores so many things that make that stat almost meaningless. 

     

     

     

    It was objectively terrible. No one is arguing there wasn’t mitigation.

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