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  2. Posted

    Was my vote. We have some real star players, but IMO Kenny has been the glue holding this season together. Don’t think he’s ever had a better season and nice to see him get the credit.

    Head said Sara, heart said Kenny for all his efforts. Unsurprised to see them top two but pleasantly surprised to see the Mayor win out.

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    1 hour ago, king canary said:

    I struggle with this when it comes to referees for two reasons.

    1. Referees are there to enforce the rules of the game that everyone has agreed to play by. Regardless of if the referee in question is a bit of ****, the rules of the game do not need to earn anybody's respect, they should be respected from the off.
    2. Referees get disrespected and blamed even when they do their job well. We've seen time and time again players getting in referees faces for correct decisions and managers claiming they've been done over despite referees getting their calls right. For me the 'respect' part needs to start with the players and the managers. 

    Sorry I wasn’t clear, the position should be respected but the individual has to earn respect.

    They are two different things, football has a problem with both.

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    Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

    Agreed completely, apart from the 'untouchable gods' part.

    As a matter of fact, your first and last paragraphs have more-or-less rephrased another post I made on the last page!

    I mean in the professional sense. There’s lots of indirect criticism thrown at referees but I don’t see them owning their mistakes or explaining their decisions enough IMO. That’s of course a recipe for discontent.

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    12 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

    But why is it only acceptable to criticise referees for dreadful errors?

    Players make awful mistakes all the time. I haven't seen Burnley put out tweets against Trafford and Muric for all the ****-ups they've made season, no pundit has called for them to be dropped to the Football League and the public at large haven't made a sweeping generalisation about awful goalkeeping standards are in this country.

    It just seems that when referees make mistakes, it's totally unacceptable. But when players, who earn in a week what a referee earns in a year, make sloppy schoolboy errors like misplaced passes, missing open goals or awful defensive mishaps, their managers defend them and pundits and social media are never anywhere near as critical as they are towards referees. 

    The referees get a far higher percentage of decisions right than players have competed passes, or a sporting director has successful transfers. Yet nobody ever accuses a sporting director of corruption because they spunked £10m on Christos Tzolis.

    I'd love referees to have the same freedom when it comes to criticising players and managers. I'd just love to hear a referee interviewed after a game and say something like, "how has a striker at this level missed a chance like that? And as for the manager, why on earth has he made those substitutions? Such poor decisions. It's clear that he never played at this standard; he just doesn't understand the game at this level".

    It just seems to be getting worse as well. Referees are being criticised more and more, and it just adds more pressure, making the job even more difficult when they know they're going to be screamed at by one of the managers, regardless of which way they give the decision. Quite often we see managers going mad on the touchline over a decision which most people think the ref actually got right. 

    I genuinely think we're not too far away from a referee getting physically attacked, either outside the ground after game or even after they've gone home. It's already out of hand, it's getting worse and the Premier League and the FA really need to clamp down on it.

    Would help a lot if they had mics and we heard the reasonings for their decisions like Rugby. 

    They are basically untouchable gods right now, no wonder when they are continually making questionable decisions there is a lot of anger.

    I think you’re right it’s getting pretty bad but there are things that could be done to improve the relationship between referees and other parties. Referees should be respected, but respect is earnt.

    VAR hasn’t helped, it should only be used for clear and obvious errors but it’s become a crutch and watching off side decisions be made over a cm or two (despite the inaccuracies of the method) is a mockery of the intent IMO. Trust in officiating should be improved, but I don’t think it’s ever been lower IMO.

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    26 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

    If they're from the academy it's a profit. However little. It all adds up. 

    I mean true, but the real money comes from the talent that makes it as we’ve seen over the last decade. Needs to be a pathway.

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    5 hours ago, Virtual reality said:

    But there isn’t any actual evidence that they don’t. He just isn’t prepared to play his one signing because he clearly isn’t good enough. That’s a Knapper problem, not a Wagner one

    Wagner’s also been very vocal both at the time and recently about the squad being weakened in January and how he was against it but it wasn’t his decision.

    You add the SVH issue and not using any youth players and there certainly seems some circumstantial evidence they aren’t on the same page.

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    12 minutes ago, Virtual reality said:

    You say you can’t see Wagner being in charge next season but there is no logical reason that he won’t be. We are sitting in the top 2 in the form table this calendar year and our realistic target of getting into the playoffs will be hit 

    If Wagner and Knapper really aren’t getting along he won’t be here unless we are promoted I’m guessing. People may not agree, but there’s no point Wagner being in charge if he’s not aligned with the club’s strategic long term aims.

    I’m unsurprised at Wagner to be honest, he needs to be successful in this job for his reputation. Three consecutive failures on his CV might have meant it’s over for him as a manager or at least make getting another similar level role extremely difficult.

    I can fully understood why Wagner only cares about the short term, if he gets Norwich promoted his reputation is restored. Even now his success since new year has taken him from looking a spent force at this level to a genuine promotion contender. 

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    10 hours ago, Barry Brockes said:

    Trading on his Dad's record a bit llike Paul Dalglish? If that's the case so much for Knapper's detailed statistical analysis of potential new signings and thorough scouting over a period of several.months.

    Who do you think did that scouting and analysis? Knapper wasn’t looking at this guy at Arsenal. He’s made a decision based on the NCFC scouting team’s recommendations presumably.

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    39 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

    That means nothing if the club accepts a bid and he gets offered 10k+ extra a week. No matter how much love he has for the club. 

    I've said on other posts that I have a suspicion that rangers is the next stop, hart retiring etc. 

    Not sure I see the pull, doubt they’d offer much more in wages than us, European football but domestic league is dire. 

    He’s got a decent chance of getting in the PL again as a No1, if not this season in the future. He’s too young and playing too well to go to career death land IMO.

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    Just now, Robert N. LiM said:

    Same team as Wednesday on Tuesday, just with Duffy back for Batth if Duffy is fit enough for 90 mins.

    Rowe as impact sub if fit. Be good to finally have an option off the bench.

    Wagner’s basically made it clear that’s the team, be very surprised if there were any unforced changes other than restoring Duffy.

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  22. Posted

    3 hours ago, king canary said:

    Yes, this doesn't bode well for his longer term future here. That he's already in the press moaning about the new SD's January strategy suggests he's unlikely to be here past the end of the season.

    Managers are expected to take the flack for everything it often seems.

    Agree doesn’t bode well for the future, but can’t really blame him especially when he’s basically been proved right.

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