Monty13

Good strong 1st 11 but that bench isn’t exactly full of game changers, great to see some youth but looking pretty threadbare for the run in.

Resounding home win.

They spent a lot of money on the ground and improving other related things. While they’ve undoubtedly bought their way out of the division, that money wasn’t all on the playing squad.

Except it’s the other way round. God save the King is the U.K. National Anthem, England doesn’t have one and that’s why it’s used for most sporting events when England are represented.

Agree with this. Whats technically true isn’t necessarily helpful in helping us move forward as a society, labelling a person racist isn’t particularly helpful as the connotations of that word are so much worse than the technical language definition. Humans learn through trial an error, making mistakes is absolutely paramount for learning and growing. We all have prejudices, many of which are unconscious, condemn what people say and point out why so they can grow but without a consistent pattern of ignorance to that opportunity I don’t feel labelling them as such is helpful. It doesn’t promote the environment for people to improve themselves and their understanding.

It is truly appalling how instead of extolling the true virtues of the English people and this country a lot of the establishment saw the way to distance themselves from the minority of the worst nationalist bigots was to attack anything nationalistic itself.

Land of hope and glory has always been my favourite personally, I like the tune. Although the issue with all these great old patriotic hymns are the lyrics are a tad problematic lol

Pretty sure LYB is his account at this point lol

He’s absolutely spot on.

He wasn’t daring, he didn’t fall into a trap. This has nothing to do with the “woke brigade”, I’m willing to bet a bunch of people on here and elsewhere are pretty unhappy with the extremes of racial politicking but still know Webber was in the wrong. He lumped a bunch of young men together because they are black, I’m honestly shocked you refuse to see that and at what you keep writing on this subject.

Christ this is boring. People have pointed out multiple times why what he said was racist, you keep ignoring it. He profiled 5 black men, he attributed things to them collectively that were not true about all of them. What he said was racist. That doesn’t make him racist just because he said something racist, but it doesn’t change what he said and calls into question why he said it. The fact he named these individuals also defames their character, family and upbringing. A bigger deal for those individuals definitely, but doesn’t take away from the above. He said something he should not have done, he’s apologised and the club has released a statement, both of which took longer than they should have IMO but it was required. I’m pretty sure personally he didn’t mean to be racist, I think once again his ego got the better of him and he started to take some tacit credit for these lad’s achievements without thinking for a second of the impact of what he was saying on them and their families. He’s got main character syndrome and he finally unthinkingly said something that upset more people than he’s used to, maybe he’ll learn but damage has been done because he didn’t think.

I think the racism was what wasn’t welcome.

He didn’t stop Flynn Clarke, I do find it rather ironic that one of his youth signings is actually in prison (well house arrest now). Must have been his upbringing as a young black man on the mean streets of Peterborough.

Are you just being deliberately obtuse now? It was what he actually said as Cowboy described that’s the issue, not what he may or may not have been wishing to highlight.

I thought Knapper gave a decent interview in January, but there’s so little to say until we get to the summer and he can start taking whatever actions he deems necessary. The fact it passed without much controversy didn’t mean there weren’t interesting insights, much like Attanasio’s comments. I always hated the idea Webber was some straight talker, he didn’t tell it like it is, he told it like he wanted.

Basically this, I’m really not sure what you’re not getting @lake district canary? There’s a difference between being a racist and saying something racist. What he said was objectively racist for the reasons above, why he said it is probably something for Webber to reflect on.

Delia and Michael are at every home game but we rarely get official interviews from them, not sure much would change there in terms of frequency.

What do you think he was referring to? In jail or …an accountant? maybe a doctor? Or an entrepreneur? In jail or something means something similarly bad, it’s not some get out because he said “or something” after it.

He could have said exactly the same thing without naming players, but no his ego got the better of him and he didn’t think for a second about what he was saying about them or how he was stereotyping men like them.

It’s exactly as it should be, my only issue would be I think this could have been published quicker IMO, before it even got to national news, simply because now it’s reactive rather than proactive. I presume The Pinkun made the club aware of the content in the interview.

I agree, but he is still contracted so I assume NCFC have some say in what he can say about his time here and presumably should have something in place in terms of NDA for when he’s not contracted. Would you not expect that? Also my point was more this isn’t something new he’s suddenly done since he’s off on gardening leave, he’s been putting his foot in it all throughout his tenure, you’d have thought someone would have spoken to him about it at some point as a senior manager reporting to the board. I 100% get your stance, merely pointing out I’m not sure I agree nothing could have been done by the club during his tenure (and even now to a certain extent) to prevent him bringing the club into disrepute.

Not sure that’s strictly true Purple. 1. he technically is still under contract by the club, just on gardening leave effectively, he confirmed that himself. 2. Depending on how you choose define Corporate Governance but I’d still argue part of a broad definition would include the boards responsibility to challenge management performance. Given the number of (increasingly worse) faux pas Webber has dropped in his time you could question whether he was challenged on his poor PR during his tenure as it doesn’t appear so.

Wow, just wow. Webber singles out 5 Black players as potentially being in jail if it wasn’t for football and you think that has nothing to do with race? It’s just campaigners “attention seeking as always” and “race-baiting”? Thats some next level mental gymnastics there.

That would be shockingly bad PR.

I don’t think anyone is calling for the club to stick the knife in or attack her husband. A simple this does not reflect the views of NCFC style statement should be the response, if she can’t support that that’s a huge conflict of interest. I’m one of those that has the view that Zoe is her own person and shouldn’t be tarnished by association with whatever her husband does just because she’s his wife, but by that same token she has to embody that. Publicly supporting the core values of NCFC shouldn’t be an issue for any employee.