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  2. Posted

    [quote user="PurpleCanary"]

    [quote user="ricardo"][quote user="KeelansGlove"]Being uncompetitive in any league is without question the most depressing situation in football, probably why I would describe the 2004/5 season as the least enjoyable season for me in the last 35 years. I understand the concept of your point Ricardo and acknowledge it.

    BUT

    We have a much better squad than we did in 2005 and there are enough teams around us with poorer squads that seem far better prepared to win points in this league than we do. The Wolves situation is a red herring nobody is suggesting we should not replace Hughton.

    Again I am happy to admit that if I was subjected to the football we have witnessed throughout the Hughton era for years to come I would seriously consider not having a season ticket (even if by some miracle it continued to be successful by some peoples strange measure of success)[/quote]Whilst agreeing with much of that and the fact that we have spent a lot of money I would argue that this only ensures that we stand still. In order to compete for a top ten place is going to require even more money. Our total spend was still less than what Spurs coughed up for a single player yet led to similar results at Man City. For some people it raised the expectations to what in hindsight they must now see as an unrealistic level.On your point about the quality of football, I assume you never supported during the sixties. Dire beyond anything you have ever seen, but simehow it never put me off.[/quote]

     

    I enjoyed watching us being dismantled by Clough''s Derby County, ricardo! As far as the spending on the squad and expectations are concerned, I would say this. A top-ten finish, as called for by Bowkett, is highly unlikely. But what bothers myself and others is that we don''t seem to be getting as much out of the squad as we  should. Cantiaci put it well a day or two back - that under Lambert (and no I am not one of those pining for his return) the squad was greater than the sum of its parts and under Hughton this season it is less than the sum of its parts.To put it another way, the summer splurge (ninth highest net spending in Europe) shouldn''t have taken us into the top ten. But it should have kept us level with those clubs around us who also spent money. But it hasn''t. Our points per game has dropped from last season''s 1.15 to 0.91. So instead of heading for 44 points and safety we are on course for 34/35 points and a very serious danger of relegation.

    [/quote]Bang on Purple!It doesnt make a person any less of a supporter because they recognise what you''ve posted. People have genuine concerns that we''re in relegation danger. To ignore it just smacks of people wanting to back Hughton for the sheer hell of it.

    Showing anti Hughton concerns is perfectly acceptable to me.

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    [quote user="nutty nigel"]As was obvious after the West Ham game, people aren''t enjoying their football. There were faces like slapped arses because we won. .[/quote]

    Maybe because despite the fact we won (and I''m personally delighted we did) the first half was incredibly poor and prehaps some people think the win papered over the cracks so to speak? The cracks being a dreadfully poor first half and the run of form previously.

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    [quote user="nutty nigel"]

    Please don''t patrinise me Reggie. You asked me how many times Hughton''s team had come back from behind to gain a draw. But you knew that.

     

    And that''s a fine example of making the board out to be clueless. Because if Hughton hasn''t been able to lift the players out of adversity for 16 months then continuing with that same manager would make the board clueless.

     

    Just the same as if every substitution Hughton made or didn''t make for 16 months was clueless then surely the board are clueless for putting up with it.

     

    Why do you think the board have been unable to see what seems so obvious to those clued up posters on here?

     

     

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    Patronise the posters on here all you wish to Nutty but the Board has made mistakes in the past and i see nothing to suggest that Hughton wasnt another mistake. Sticking with Worthy for too long, Peter Grant, Roeder, Gunny were all disasters.Infact one might argue that Paul Lambert aside, their appointments after Worthy have been awful.

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    [quote user="ricardo"]I doubt the board has even considered changing managers. Should we have a bad patch between now and Christmas it might become a topic they wish to consider but those baying for blood in the near future are likely to be disappointed.A manager will live and die by the results and teams like NCFC that are close to the relegation mire will always have a question mark hanging over the managers head.Some people on this forum seem intent on making it a contest between the "Pantwetters" and the "Happy Clappers" and every week the board fills with one or the other depending on the result. Personally speaking it matters little to me as I see as many problems in sticking as there are in twisting.The results will be the decider and what will be will be.[/quote]

    Are you serious Ricky? Apart from the 10 game run, his entire reign here has been a bad patch!

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    [quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="RvWs 4 year contract"][quote user="Mister Chops"]Are we "struggling to get anything at home" when we beat Southampton and West Ham and drew with Everton and Cardiff?[/quote]

    Apart from a speculative shot from young master Redmond v Southampton we didnt look like scoring.Didnt deserve to beat West Ham- that first half was one of the worst I''ve seen this year and I went to Hull/Spurs/Arsenal away.I didnt go Cardiff at home so cant comment.

    [/quote]Well, and I hate to break this to you, life isn''t fair.If you want an alternative league table where we took 1 point from Southampton and West Ham rather than 6 points, then feel free to create one.  Just don''t crayon it on the bedroom wall as Mummy and Daddy will be cross with you.

    [/quote]Yep. Start throwing the insults just because someone dares to disagree with you.[:D]

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    [quote user="Mister Chops"]Are we "struggling to get anything at home" when we beat Southampton and West Ham and drew with Everton and Cardiff?[/quote]

    Apart from a speculative shot from young master Redmond v Southampton we didnt look like scoring.Didnt deserve to beat West Ham- that first half was one of the worst I''ve seen this year and I went to Hull/Spurs/Arsenal away.I didnt go Cardiff at home so cant comment.

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    [quote user="ricardo"]Absolutely nothing like 2004/5.We couldn''t buy a win at this stage of the season and were already well on the way to being cut adrift without a single team looking poorer than us.At the moment there are at least half a dozen teams that are no better and at least 3 who look worse.[/quote]I dont think we''re better than 3 other teams! Our form has been terrible.

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    Do you still consider the Blue filth to be our biggest rivals?I do. Always will. Some of the stick I''ve had from their fans over years isnt forgotten just like that.

    It''s the local aspect for me. Might be 40 odd miles from the filthy place but the rivalry is as fierce as any derby in football (prehaps not the Old Firm but then those guys are nutjobs).

    Do you consider the scum to be our biggest rivals still? If not who?

  25. Posted

    [quote user="nutty nigel"]

    And what about Carlo Nash. Now I know he''s third choice but you could easily find Ruddy suspended and Bunn injured. Hughton''s not doing him any favours by not playing him...................

     

     

     

     

    [/quote]Ha! Good point.Just imagine if we''d spent all that money on RvW and Hoops to start the season with Becchio upfront.People (like Lincoln Canary) would have a s*** fit!
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