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[quote user="Yellowbeagle"][quote user="Al"][quote user="Yellowbeagle"][quote user="Al"]The players make far more mistakes than the refs do. Why is it acceptable for players but not for referees?[/quote] What makes you think fans accept mistakes from players or managers for that matter? I''ve seen some players get absolute pelters from the crowd.[/quote] A players mistakes are soon forgotten though. One mistake & a referee is shit for ever.[/quote] Don''t agree, how about off the top of my head, Robert Green England versus USA.[/quote] Norwich players made shed loads of mistakes in every single game last season. Are you going to be giving them abuse because of it? Of course you aren''t. A referee makes a mistake & it''s very different

[quote user="Yellowbeagle"][quote user="Al"]The players make far more mistakes than the refs do. Why is it acceptable for players but not for referees?[/quote] What makes you think fans accept mistakes from players or managers for that matter? I''ve seen some players get absolute pelters from the crowd.[/quote] A players mistakes are soon forgotten though. One mistake & a referee is shit for ever.

The players make far more mistakes than the refs do. Why is it acceptable for players but not for referees?

Don''t you think that the perceived quality of the referee is down to losing the majority of games? Just have a look on here after a defeat. From the comments posted virtually every defeat is down to the referee. Yet the referee doesn''t get a mention after those rare games when a win is recorded. In those seasons in the championship & league one the wins far outweighed the defeats and so far fewer games were seen as being the referees fault.

Dave Watson coached both Joe Hart and Ben Foster on a day to day basis while he was at Birmingham. From that experience he has probably come to the conclusion that they are both better than Ruddy,

There is no way that the £16M parachute payment will cover the wage bill of the current squad. Anyone who doesn''t think players will be sold is living in cloud cuckoo land. Similarly it is bound to be the better playerswho have a decent value who will be sold.

It was Hodgson who asked Foster to come out of retirement. That''s why he was always going to be in the squad. The only issue is that Dave Watson obviously feels Forster is better than Ruddy.

Dave Watson coached Ben Foster while he was at Birmingham so he is perfectly placed to know who is the better goalkeeper

Ruddy will leave. Guaranteed. If he has a wage reduction in his contract then he will want to leave. If he hasn''t then the club will not be able to afford his wages so he will be sold. Simple.

Do the high earners really have reductions for relegation in their contracts? Wolves were relegated without debts but were screwed by high earners on premiership wages they couldn''t get rid of because of the wages they were on. I would be very surprised if the high earners would''ve agreed to reductions because their stock was much higher at the time the contracts were signed & so the club would need to have pushed the boat out to get them to sign

What is the wage bill going to be next season? Very doubtful that the parachute payment will cover it so how is it going to be paid?

What planet are you on?

[quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="ron obvious"]Those strikers have scored 3, 2 & 4 league goals - 2 more than our top 3. They had Anelka until recently as well ...[/quote]Well it''s one of two things, either A) a scandalous waste of money from Hughton, or B) the cautious, sit on one goal, play for a 0-0 attitude meaning no striker will score many for us under the current regimeI think it is probably reason B.[/quote] It''s goals that matter not who scores them. West Brom have scored 9 more goals and conceded 5 less

McNally is an even bigger clown than Hughton!! What is the point of saying we nearly signed someone? He could say Norwich tried to sign Ronaldo & Messi but the fact is we didn''t. Signing top notch players shows ambition. Saying someone was nearly signed is not ambition it''s pathetic!!

It''s usually a sign of a club that doesn''t expect to sign anyone. Then they can placate the fans with "We didn''t manage to sign anyone but look at the ambition we showed in trying to sign those quality players". Its a trick Gold & Sullivan are famous for using at West Ham & before that at Birmingham as well

He actually has a very good record. Taking Real Betis from the 2nd Division to qualifying for Europe. His teams play a very attacking brand of football. Sacked this season after financial problems forced Betis to sell all of their players, Their fans were very upset when he was sacked.

How come West Brom & Crystal Palace get to play each other 3 times? You have got them playing twice in February & they have already played once

[quote user="ricardo"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="ricardo"]Pretty much a must win for Fulham as they only have 3 of the bottom half left to play at home. Absolutely disasterous for West Ham who also only have 3 of the bottom half left to play at home plus everyone from Liverpool down to Swansea, then the top 4 away. A decent win for WBA all be it against 10 men but again their remaining fixtures look harder than ours.[/quote]Our run is looks pretty bad, three of the top four at home. In the end everyone is playing everyone else again. As I said earlier, I think we will stumble over the line. But if this is building a team, it is going nowhere fast. There is no discernable improvement on the pitch from last season, and we have better players this term.I must admit my expectations for this season were a little higher than battling it out with a declining Sunderland, imploding Cardiff, Strikerless West Ham and an appalling Crystal Palace side.[/quote]So you wouldn''t take our 5 at home and 3 away against the top 8As opposed to Sunderland''s 1 at home and 7 awayor W Ham''s 4 at home and 4 awayor Fulham''s 4 at home and 4 awayor Palace 4 at home 4 awayor Cardiff''s 2 at home 6 awayor Villa''s 2 at home 6 awayYou really are a funny old lot on here. You never bother to check your facts before spouting out the received wisdom. I can only repeat that I wouldn''t swap ours for any of the above.[:D][;)][Y][

No relegation threat? I hope the players don''t have your childish arrogant attitude!!!  

[quote user="Le Juge"]If that chance had fallen to Larsson it would have been a goal 9 times out of 10. It was a moment of madness from a player who otherwise almost always seems to make the right decision. If they had scored from that though would have been played everywhere and damaged his World Cup prospects.[/quote] The best he can hope for is to go as number 3. Hardly worth worrying about

Mulumbu & Yacob at West Brom are 2 of the best in the premier league & they cost peanuts. The players are there if the scouts are good enough to find them

[quote user="Vanwink"]Of course we can, despite injuries we still have an excellent group of players available, given the right leadership, motivation and strategy, we should be coming away with 3 points. Let''s hope the travelling faithfull are given a performance that will warm their spirits in the SH that is The Hawthorns Have not had a bad record there recently! OTBC[/quote] On what planet SHOULD we be coming away with 3 points? They have a better squad with better, more experienced players. They are playing better football even against the top teams AND we have Hughton AND it''s an away game. We COULD come away with 3 points but there is no way we SHOULD be coming away with 3 points

[quote user="Vanwink"]Of course we can, despite injuries we still have an excellent group of players available, given the right leadership, motivation and strategy, we [b]should[/b] be coming away with 3 points. Let''s hope the travelling faithfull are given a performance that will warm their spirits in the SH that is The Hawthorns Have not had a bad record there recently! OTBC[/quote]

Boooo! It''s not fair. No one let''s us win

As well as Chris Hughton, several other managers racked up their 50th league game in charge of their respective clubs over the last few days. Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool, AVB at Spurs, Paul Lambert at Villa, Michael Laudrup at Swansea, Sam Allardyce at West Ham and Steve Clarke at WBA Here is a comparison of how they have each done balanced against how much they have spent. In terms of points gained AVB wins it with 92 points from his 50 games. AVB 92 Rodgers 85 Clarke 64 Laudrup 61 Allardyce 56 (goal difference -13) Lambert 56 (goal difference -23) Hughton 55 In terms of money spent AVB is the clear winner (or loser). AVB £161M Rodgers £72M Allardyce £40M Lambert £40M Laudrup £36.5M Hughton £29.5M Clarke £16M Combining the two the cost per point gained is- Clarke £250,000 Hughton £536,000 Laudrup £598,000 Allardyce £714,000 Lambert £714,000 Rodgers £847,000 AVB £1,750,000 Conclusion: Clarke is doing a cracking job at WBA but Hughton although he has won less points than any of the others comes a clear second in the pounds per point table.