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[quote user="City1st"]"John Ruddy £125k, Russell Martin £100k, Leon Barnett £1 million, Andrew Surman £1.25 million, Marc Teirny 50k, Athony McNamee 250k, David Fox £100k, Aron Wilbrahams £100k, Andrew Crofts 400k, Simeon Jackson 600k, Zak Whitbread 400k " What a load of old twaddle You have no idea of any fees, costs or wages however why bother with them when you can make up some old tosh and then speculate on that. Remember the idiot squeaks about Surnam costing £1.2m and yet the actual figures from the club accounts showed a total of £1.4 for all playersfees etc. Likewise Dave Strivkas much touted £750,000 transfer fee, which turned out to be no more than the sum total of his 3 year contract - presumably the total cost assuming all bonuses, appearance money etc It is an ''occupational hazard'' of any forum that you get speculative nonsense posted up as fact which is then used to underpin an argument, sadly it is all too often believed by the more gullible who then over exite themselves in attacks upon the club. Please note - Paul Lambert has not joined Burnley, Michael Brown has not joined from Pompey and Elliot Bennett did not join last week. We did not go into admistration last May, nor was Holt out for three months ... ............. and those were the ones that were the least mad.[/quote]   I''m sorry City1st but who the hell died and made you Forum god! I''ll tell you the other problem with forums shall I................. people going round demanding that their opinion is the right one. Firstly, read my original post............ I did actually say that we will never know the full extent of the clubs spending etc, and for your info this thread had been one of the more sensible discussions, nobody slagging off Lambert or the club, yet airing some different points of views, after all thats what these forums are for arent they? So as for "Twaddle" I suggest you look a little closer to home.......................

I hear what your saying Guys, and as I mentioned we''ll never know the true cost of players, but I doubt very much that Wolves who paid the saints 2.5 million would take a 2 million loss on a young player with potential with plenty of time left on his contract. I''d be really interested to compare our total spend plus player wages against all the other championship teams, because while I admit the likes of QPR, Cardiff, Scum, Hull may have much bigger player budgets I imagine there are plenty of clubs below us in terms of PL''s budget. I don''t think theres any issue with a level of expectancy, and its a credit to the job already done, but I just wish we would stop considering ourselves lucky to be there, and start believing we belong there............. you can dress up last night however you like, and again I accept "its football" and players cant perform to the top of their game every week, but we should have won last night, the players were well below par. Forget 2 years ago, its in the past football is a fast moving enviroment.

you''ve just solved a problem and given yourself another, Andrew Crofts is less of a winger than Lansbury........... although I do agree I think Henri could be more effective in the middle.

I thought he was poor last night, first time I''ve seen him live. Theres no doubting the lads ability, but he didnt look too interested IMO for long periods.Reminds me of a young David Bentley........... Another problem is that all four midfield players are very similar in respect that they all love getting on the ball, Wes seemed to always be ahead of Lansbury when it came to getting the ball, Fox like it at his feet, Crofts likes it as his feet and they all just seemed to be chasing the same pass. Too much of the same for me, which makes certain people ineffective, would have loved to seen us go flat 4-4-2, we were so narrow at times.

Stop talking about where we were 2 years ago................... Serious queston, for the record this is my first ever post having followed the board for as long as I can remember, I log in daily and read with interest peoples views etc. I''m a lifelong City fan who held a season ticket for 5 years before local football grabbed my attention, and due to my love of grassroots football, I dont get to see the mighty yellows as much as I''d like, however I was at the game last night. I should point out before I put peoples backs up with my views that I think Paul Lambert is a god, and what he''s done for our football club is amazing, and I hope we hang onto him for as long as possible, however............................... Something that never comes up on these boards (sorry if I''ve missed it) is just how much money the current managment team have had to spend, I mean lets look at it, over the last 2 years he''s spent roughly the following, and of course we never know quite how much players cost, so I''ve tried to be conservative John Ruddy £125k, Russell Martin £100k, Leon Barnett £1 million, Andrew Surman £1.25 million, Marc Teirny 50k, Athony McNamee 250k, David Fox £100k, Aron Wilbrahams £100k, Andrew Crofts 400k, Simeon Jackson 600k, Zak Whitbread 400k plus various other Loans and I''m sure the Lansbury loan deal hasnt been cheap either. so give or take a few hundred thousand he''s had the best part of 4.4 million quid in under 2 years plus the loan fee''s. And of course we know he''s got a couple of Million in the war chest should he wish to spend it. Add to that the cost of getting the manager and his team in from Col U(hundeds of thousands one suspects), are we not within our rights to start to expect us to be challenging towards the top? I cant remember any City manager having that sort of money available over such a sort period of time, and the board should be praised for supporting the project. But with ticket prices going up, good amounts of money being invested in the Manager and players, I just think the time has come to stop talking about 2 years ago, Yes Mr Lambert you''ve come along way in 2 years, but the squad that you put out last night, was very, very different to the one you inherited from Mr Gunn.......... Just my own opinion, and like I said, great job done by all to date, the clubs in a great position and long may it continue.