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  1. [quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="lincoln canary"][quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="lincoln canary"]My opinion over Morison remains the same. He was good last night but he needs to consistently perform like that, he''s other performances have been poor. As for iwan Roberts well the guy had already proven his qualities at other clubs at the same level, the same cannot be said of Morison so that comparison is rubbish. As for you le fudge, I can recall u on numerous occasions slating hoolahan and how he should not be playing. I do believe bar Stoke we''ve failed to pick up points when he doesn''t start, and that goes to alot of u slating me for my Morison bashing - most of you have done the same to hoolahan whereas I''ve stood by him since day one as I could see how important he was to us. So alot on here are mere hippocrites.[/quote]What?!? That''s so far from the truth that it is borderline libellous. Any chance of proof here? If I''ve ever said that I will happily delete my account and never return, feel free to try and prove it. I mean it too, and I''m saying that because I''ve never said it.Hoolahan is without a doubt my favourite player, and I''ve done nothing other than passionately declare that without Hoolahan in the team we are nothing. After the West Brom game I stated that Hoolahan is good enough to play for a top six side and should be the first player on every team sheet. Who else has criticised Hoolahan then? Once again your fingers type a load of old tripe. I can''t recall anybody criticising Hoolahan since I started posting here, or indeed since I started reading this board. I can''t imagine anybody doing so since 2009. [/quote] Cant be arsed to find it but you have staed before in a discussion las season that Hoolahan should be dropped and is overated. You really must be on drugs becuase Hoolahan''s abillity and place in the team has been questioned time and time again on this board and has been a very hot topic over the last couple of years. For someone who has nothing better to do then live on here to miss nobody ever slating Hoolahan is either a liar or blind, Which are you?? [/quote]Your integrity is at stake here. I''ve just searched this forum for the following phrases:Hoolahan droppedDrop hoolahanHoolahan over ratedHoolahan overratedHoolahan rubbishWes droppedDrop WesWes over ratedWes overratedGuess what? Nothing from me whatsoever. Who is the liar now? I''ve not said it. I might be an irritating little opiniated sod, but I don''t lie. I only went back as far as the end of 2010, for obvious reasons, and guess what? I couldn''t see anybody else criticising Hoolahan either. I''m not going back two years because my post history doesn''t go back two years. Admit that you are wrong or back up your claims. [/quote]You busy proving me wrong then Lincoln Canary? Like I''ve said, if you can prove your statement I will happily delete my account immediately. Yet you can''t bring yourself to admit that you are wrong or try and back your claims, pathetic. I wouldn''t expect an apology of course, in fact you seem to struggle with the admitting that you are wrong bit too, as per the original post.
  2. [quote user="lincoln canary"][quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="lincoln canary"]My opinion over Morison remains the same. He was good last night but he needs to consistently perform like that, he''s other performances have been poor. As for iwan Roberts well the guy had already proven his qualities at other clubs at the same level, the same cannot be said of Morison so that comparison is rubbish. As for you le fudge, I can recall u on numerous occasions slating hoolahan and how he should not be playing. I do believe bar Stoke we''ve failed to pick up points when he doesn''t start, and that goes to alot of u slating me for my Morison bashing - most of you have done the same to hoolahan whereas I''ve stood by him since day one as I could see how important he was to us. So alot on here are mere hippocrites.[/quote]What?!? That''s so far from the truth that it is borderline libellous. Any chance of proof here? If I''ve ever said that I will happily delete my account and never return, feel free to try and prove it. I mean it too, and I''m saying that because I''ve never said it.Hoolahan is without a doubt my favourite player, and I''ve done nothing other than passionately declare that without Hoolahan in the team we are nothing. After the West Brom game I stated that Hoolahan is good enough to play for a top six side and should be the first player on every team sheet. Who else has criticised Hoolahan then? Once again your fingers type a load of old tripe. I can''t recall anybody criticising Hoolahan since I started posting here, or indeed since I started reading this board. I can''t imagine anybody doing so since 2009. [/quote] Cant be arsed to find it but you have staed before in a discussion las season that Hoolahan should be dropped and is overated. You really must be on drugs becuase Hoolahan''s abillity and place in the team has been questioned time and time again on this board and has been a very hot topic over the last couple of years. For someone who has nothing better to do then live on here to miss nobody ever slating Hoolahan is either a liar or blind, Which are you?? [/quote]Your integrity is at stake here. I''ve just searched this forum for the following phrases:Hoolahan droppedDrop hoolahanHoolahan over ratedHoolahan overratedHoolahan rubbishWes droppedDrop WesWes over ratedWes overratedGuess what? Nothing from me whatsoever. Who is the liar now? I''ve not said it. I might be an irritating little opiniated sod, but I don''t lie. I only went back as far as the end of 2010, for obvious reasons, and guess what? I couldn''t see anybody else criticising Hoolahan either. I''m not going back two years because my post history doesn''t go back two years. Admit that you are wrong or back up your claims.
  3. [quote user="Mungo Bumpkin"]I take an old school view on team selection - pick your best team every week (ideally the same eleven players week in, week out). And don''t change a winning team unless circumstances (like having to stand up to Man U rather than two of the division''s weakest teams) dicate otherwise. Lappin, Smith and especially powder puff Surman are squad players who should only figure in the event of injuries suspensions forcing PL''s hands. I''d go with: Ruddy Tierney Barnett Martin Naugton Pilkington Crofts Johnson Bennet Hoolahan Morison[/quote]It would have been much easier for you to have said...... "I''d play the same team but swap Fox for Crofts".
  4. [quote user="CDMullins"][quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="paul moy"] [quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="Mungo Bumpkin"]Is it a friendly on Saturday? Use it as a chance to see if untried players are any good?? Have you been sniffing lighter fuel this morning? The pnly chnage I would go for is Crofts in for Fox. Fox has been a star in the last two games but we''ll be under the cosh and dispossessing them will be the prime task. Mungo[/quote]Whether you like it or not, we will have no choice but to use those players this season. Our current centre midfielders are:Crofts, Johnson, Fox, HoolahanWe are playing three in the middle right now. If you think that we aren''t going to need to use Lappin, Smith, and Surman this year then it is you that is sniffing lighter fuel this morning!We have two wingers, plus Surman. If we get Pilkington injured then do we play the diamond? Or do we start trying Surman or Lappin on the left? If we get Bennett injured do we play Surman or Lappin on the left and Pilkington on the right? Or do we try and play Smith on the right? We just don''t have the luxury of a big squad, we actually have a very small squad. Lambert has said it himself, we need to use the entire 25. It''s no good getting to late November and early December when injuries and fatigue set in, having nobody with any minutes to bring into the team. I myself wouldn''t have expected to see Lappin this season, I''ve changed my mind by watching Surman. It''s not unrealistic for us to see 2 or 3 injuries in midfield at the same time, we have seen 3 injuries at centre back already. Let me give you a hypothetical scenario... in November, we find ourselves with Fox, Pilkington, and Crofts out injured. We need to pick an XI...... knock yourself out.... name your XI......As for the friendly bit, that''s just silly. It''s a well known tactic employed in this league, hence http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/15/premier-league-weakened-teams-hollowayNow, pick your XI.  [/quote] Of course we will need to use our weaker squad members occasionally due to injuries, suspensions etc, but not all at once when we have no need to change a winning team. That''s crazy.    [/quote] Maybe it is crazy, I don''t know. My logic is to keep Swansea guessing. Maybe playing Lappin and Smith was the crazy bit, maybe applying the same logic but bringing Crofts, Holt, and Jackson, into the side wouldn''t be so crazy? I''d play Fox though actually, purely because it''s probably his dream to play at Old Trafford, having come through their system. [/quote] Its my dream to play at Old Trafford (for Norwich obviously) would you play me? So much bad logic in your posts! [/quote]You said yourself that you wouldn''t change a winning team, Fox was in that winning team. Yes I would play Fox because it''s against Man Utd, because he will be keen to impress, players always up there game against their former clubs.
  5. [quote user="Norfolk Mustard"]Saw Korey Smith on crutches last night - with his foot in a brace thing. He didn''t look good!...[/quote]I think some people have forgotten how good Korey Smith is, I see him as having the potential to be better than Crofts and Johnson in the long term, one of the best players to come through our system for years.
  6. [quote user="paul moy"][quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="Mungo Bumpkin"]Is it a friendly on Saturday? Use it as a chance to see if untried players are any good?? Have you been sniffing lighter fuel this morning? The pnly chnage I would go for is Crofts in for Fox. Fox has been a star in the last two games but we''ll be under the cosh and dispossessing them will be the prime task. Mungo[/quote]Whether you like it or not, we will have no choice but to use those players this season. Our current centre midfielders are:Crofts, Johnson, Fox, HoolahanWe are playing three in the middle right now. If you think that we aren''t going to need to use Lappin, Smith, and Surman this year then it is you that is sniffing lighter fuel this morning!We have two wingers, plus Surman. If we get Pilkington injured then do we play the diamond? Or do we start trying Surman or Lappin on the left? If we get Bennett injured do we play Surman or Lappin on the left and Pilkington on the right? Or do we try and play Smith on the right? We just don''t have the luxury of a big squad, we actually have a very small squad. Lambert has said it himself, we need to use the entire 25. It''s no good getting to late November and early December when injuries and fatigue set in, having nobody with any minutes to bring into the team. I myself wouldn''t have expected to see Lappin this season, I''ve changed my mind by watching Surman. It''s not unrealistic for us to see 2 or 3 injuries in midfield at the same time, we have seen 3 injuries at centre back already. Let me give you a hypothetical scenario... in November, we find ourselves with Fox, Pilkington, and Crofts out injured. We need to pick an XI...... knock yourself out.... name your XI......As for the friendly bit, that''s just silly. It''s a well known tactic employed in this league, hence http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/15/premier-league-weakened-teams-hollowayNow, pick your XI.  [/quote] Of course we will need to use our weaker squad members occasionally due to injuries, suspensions etc, but not all at once when we have no need to change a winning team. That''s crazy.    [/quote] Maybe it is crazy, I don''t know. My logic is to keep Swansea guessing. Maybe playing Lappin and Smith was the crazy bit, maybe applying the same logic but bringing Crofts, Holt, and Jackson, into the side wouldn''t be so crazy? I''d play Fox though actually, purely because it''s probably his dream to play at Old Trafford, having come through their system.
  7. [quote user="CDMullins"][quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="CDMullins"]I stopped reading your post when you suggested we started Smith, Jackson and Lappin [/quote]Why is it that you don''t rate Simeon Jackson? [/quote] I really like Jackson, but not as much as I like Holt and Morison. Infact I''d give Jackson the opportunity before Vaughan and Martin. As for Smith and Lappin, you couldnt give me one plausible reason why we would distrupt a winning team to play either of them. [/quote]I can''t give you a plausible reason, other than that we might have to use them at some stage. Maybe this is just me being negative about our prospects at Man Utd, which isn''t really surprising, they have won 14-3 against Arsenal, Chelsea, and Tottenham so far at Old Trafford.
  8. [quote user="Shack Attack"][quote user="LeJuge"]Or am I just barking mad? [/quote] The very fact that you had to ask would suggest there is an element of doubt on your part [:P] I''d go with an unchanged side. The only change I would consider is maybe replacing Pilkington with Johnson and moving Crofts into the middle. So much of United''s play comes through Nani that Tierney might need a little more help than Pilkington will provide. Naughton will have his hands full too with Young but I think it is important to keep Bennett in the side as Evra is the weak link in that defence for me. [/quote]Yes plenty of doubt! I might be certain about some things, but I doubt myself plenty of times about some things too! I still can''t decide whether my post was sensible or stupid.
  9. Fox is the best passer of the ball, but that is his job, if he wasn''t a great passer of the ball then he wouldn''t have a place in the team. In much the same way that if Crofts wasn''t good at winning the ball he probably wouldn''t have a job either.
  10. [quote user="Gingerpele"]Why is everyone on here trying to make out they knew something before everyone else? I''ve read so many posts this morning saying ''He''s proved people wrong'' or ''I''ve been saying this for ages'' why after a couple of wins, is everyone a football genius? Its Lambert who is if anyone.... NEarly everyone has been saying Fox is wonderful for months now. He''s not our best player anyway, Hoolahan is. Yes Fox is very good, and will be key, but he will never be a standout player like Hoolahan. What he does is vital to the team, and he gets a lot of recognition for that, especially from the fans, but a lot of what he does is simple (well not simple as such, but I can''t think of a better word to use), it needs to be done to play like we play, and he does it as well as anyone can really. I''ve seen very few mentions of the whole team playing together, what we have actually found out this season is that Lambert yet again has managed to turn a bunch of players who should probably not all be in this league, into a team capable of performing well. Tierney, Ruddy, R.Martin, Fox, Johnson, Bennett, Barnett, Hoolahan, Morison, Naughton, Rudd, C.Martin, Pilkington, Crofts, Holt have all put in decent performances this season already, we have 7 different goal scorers, which I think is a very good thing really, it means we can score when the strikers are off form. We have Tierney, R.Martin, Fox and Hoolahan especially in my mind who look like premiership players, and i''m quite worried about how many we could lose if we go down.[/quote]The major difference being that some people claim things in hindsight, and others put their opinions in print and are proved correct.
  11. [quote user="lincoln canary"]My opinion over Morison remains the same. He was good last night but he needs to consistently perform like that, he''s other performances have been poor. As for iwan Roberts well the guy had already proven his qualities at other clubs at the same level, the same cannot be said of Morison so that comparison is rubbish. As for you le fudge, I can recall u on numerous occasions slating hoolahan and how he should not be playing. I do believe bar Stoke we''ve failed to pick up points when he doesn''t start, and that goes to alot of u slating me for my Morison bashing - most of you have done the same to hoolahan whereas I''ve stood by him since day one as I could see how important he was to us. So alot on here are mere hippocrites.[/quote]What?!? That''s so far from the truth that it is borderline libellous. Any chance of proof here? If I''ve ever said that I will happily delete my account and never return, feel free to try and prove it. I mean it too, and I''m saying that because I''ve never said it.Hoolahan is without a doubt my favourite player, and I''ve done nothing other than passionately declare that without Hoolahan in the team we are nothing. After the West Brom game I stated that Hoolahan is good enough to play for a top six side and should be the first player on every team sheet. Who else has criticised Hoolahan then? Once again your fingers type a load of old tripe. I can''t recall anybody criticising Hoolahan since I started posting here, or indeed since I started reading this board. I can''t imagine anybody doing so since 2009.
  12. [quote user="Mungo Bumpkin"]Is it a friendly on Saturday? Use it as a chance to see if untried players are any good?? Have you been sniffing lighter fuel this morning? The pnly chnage I would go for is Crofts in for Fox. Fox has been a star in the last two games but we''ll be under the cosh and dispossessing them will be the prime task. Mungo[/quote]Whether you like it or not, we will have no choice but to use those players this season. Our current centre midfielders are:Crofts, Johnson, Fox, HoolahanWe are playing three in the middle right now. If you think that we aren''t going to need to use Lappin, Smith, and Surman this year then it is you that is sniffing lighter fuel this morning!We have two wingers, plus Surman. If we get Pilkington injured then do we play the diamond? Or do we start trying Surman or Lappin on the left? If we get Bennett injured do we play Surman or Lappin on the left and Pilkington on the right? Or do we try and play Smith on the right? We just don''t have the luxury of a big squad, we actually have a very small squad. Lambert has said it himself, we need to use the entire 25. It''s no good getting to late November and early December when injuries and fatigue set in, having nobody with any minutes to bring into the team. I myself wouldn''t have expected to see Lappin this season, I''ve changed my mind by watching Surman. It''s not unrealistic for us to see 2 or 3 injuries in midfield at the same time, we have seen 3 injuries at centre back already. Let me give you a hypothetical scenario... in November, we find ourselves with Fox, Pilkington, and Crofts out injured. We need to pick an XI...... knock yourself out.... name your XI......As for the friendly bit, that''s just silly. It''s a well known tactic employed in this league, hence http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/15/premier-league-weakened-teams-hollowayNow, pick your XI. 
  13. [quote user="CDMullins"]I stopped reading your post when you suggested we started Smith, Jackson and Lappin [/quote]Why is it that you don''t rate Simeon Jackson?
  14. [quote user="yellowarmy"]good player but unfortunally i believe he is a bit like earnshaw, needs 20 chances to score 1 ( bit of an exaggeration) : >) something you don''t get in this league. [/quote] Couldn''t be further from the truth. He was one of the most clinical strikers in the Championship last year, he needed about 4 chances to score a goal. Somewhere on this board I have shown how he needed less chances per goal than any of our other 5 strikers did last season, all of them, Holt, Morison, Vaughan. Last season: Earnshaw - 76 shots, 41 on target, 12 goals  (6.33 shots per goal) Jackson - 58 shots, 27 on target, 13 goals (4.46 shots per goal)
  15. I know it would seem a bit weird to change a system which has just won two games on the bounce, but it might make sense to go and play the diamond or 4-4-2 against Man Utd. It might also make sense to try out some players who haven''t had a chance yet. Simeon Jackson anybody? Korey Smith, remember him? King of Spain? (looking at our squad, it really is pretty thin!).Keeping the opponents guessing seems to be working for us this year, somebody on here claims that Stoke were divising a system to deal with Hoolahan and Fox and we ended up with both on the bench and probably would have won the game if it weren''t for the sending off. After getting things wrong against West Brom, Bolton would have had no clue whatsoever as to the system that we were going to play. Sunderland probably would have had an idea that we would try the same system again, but Bruce will still have pondered whether we would go for two up front at home. Could changing things for Man Utd keep Swansea guessing? We could go 4-4-2 against Man Utd, and then put out the 4-5-1 again. With Holt doing so well against Chelsea too, rising to the occassion, reckon he could cause Man Utd some problems. It''s a game that realistically we just aren''t going to win right? We could give some people a run out here, and a few people a well deserved rest.....                              RuddyNaughton     Martin    Barnett    De Laet*Pilkington    Smith       Crofts     Lappin                     Jackson     Holt*De Laet - if he is allowed to play, with the idea that Tierney gets a rest, and we get to see whether De Laet is decent at left back. Or am I just barking mad? Just an idea of course. But I''m expecting our next points at home to Swansea, not at Old Trafford, plus it gives Holt and Jackson an opportunity to stake a claim for a place.People might think its crazy brining the likes of Lappin and Smith into the team, but with us playing Fox, Crofts, and Johnson together, if any of those gets injured we are going to have to call upon Surman, Lappin, or Smith at some stage this year!Or it might make sense to play the diamond and give both Bennett and Pilkington a rest....... we don''t have any spare wingers, unless Surman counts....                                RuddyNaughton     Martin        Barnett       Tierney                              Crofts               Smith                     Fox                             Hoolahan                  Jackson            Holt That said, we don''t have a game for two weeks after Old Trafford, so ''resting'' probably doesn''t come into the equation. I know it might scare people a bit, but we haven''t got too much depth, the other players in the 25 are going to have to be used this season. We only have two wingers, so playing 4-5-1 every week probably isn''t a realistic possibility. I thought that Pilkington and Bennett were fantastic last night, but we don''t want to become one dimensional. This is the scary bit of the season though:17th December     Everton20th December    Wolves26th December     Tottenham31st December     Fulham2nd Janaury           QPRA lot of points to be had in the 5 games, but that''s five games in 16 days. We get through most of the season playing 1 game every 7 days, sometimes 1 in 14 days, and then play five games in 16 days before the transfer window. That''s why we need to keep people involved and not lose site of a plan b and plan c.What do you all think? About the team for Man U that is?
  16. [quote user="urdie_Canary"]Morison is clearly more effective in this league than Holt and if i''m honest i didnt expect this to be the case.Maybe I was nieve in thinking Holt would be a handful in the prem, but it is still early in the season. Last night Morison was quality, won so many more headers than Holt, he left his oponent in a heap on the floor most of the time after the header, a real physical presence and what a header for the goal, he had to generate the power himself, also what a cross!Althought Sunderland wer''nt great, we played very well and controlled the game IMO for large parts, very happy.[/quote]Don''t write Holt off too soon, he got off to a slow start last season remember? Couldn''t stop scoring once he found his feet. What I would agree with is that Morison is more effective as a lone striker, I have never liked Holt in that role in any division, because of his tendancy to drift out wide. If Morison is our striker when playing one up front, and Holt is our big man when playing 4-4-2, then so be it. I''m writing off Vaughan as anything other than an ''option when fit'' which is what I said he would be when he signed. That leaves us with Morison, Holt, Martin, and Jackson. I think its clear that we will see Jackson get his chance at some stage, and if he takes that chance then we then have to work out whether he is most effective with Holt or with Morison. Holt offers a lot that Morison doesn''t, and I expect Holty to play just as much if not more football than Morison this year. Plus he was pure quality against Chelsea!
  17. [quote user="CambridgeCanary"]Whatever one thinks of LeJuge, the inescapable truth is that he has got Lincoln down to a tee. All we get from Licoln is spiteful, hateful comments about either players or other posters. It''s as if he has no happiness or love in his life and can only produce bile.[/quote]I''m not convinced that he is even a Norwich fan.
  18. [quote user="Canaries Utd"]I hope that the fella is given the opportunity to prove himself, he had a brilliant end to last season and i believe he could do the job that we bought Vaughn to do. I hope he is working hard on the training ground and proving himself to gain a place on the bench?[/quote]Agree completely, he deserves his chance and I hope it comes. A lot of people disagree unfortunately, but for me personally he is the most clinical of all our strikers.
  19. [quote user="Robert N. LiM"]LeJuge, you''re often very annoying, but that is a great post. The point about the clean sheets is a great one, and I''d agree that one vs Swansea would be a great step forward. One at Old Trafford would be all right, too. To be fair, though, we''ve been playing all season with an injury crisis at centre-back. If you then add the penalties and sendings-off, perhaps it''s not surprising that we''ve yet to keep a clean sheet.[/quote]It would indeed, but don''t put any money on that one, we all know that Man Utd have that special agreement with referees at Old Trafford, the one which sees X amount of penalties awarded to them per year, and 0 against them.
  20. [quote user="LeJuge"][quote user="Robert N. LiM"]In the games I''ve seen he looks like an honest trier, probably not true Prem quality, but which striker is for less than 20million? But he''s clearly the best man for the lone striker role in our excellent 4-2-3-1 formation (if only PL had listened to me at the start of the season, we could be top by now...) More mobile than Holt, more presence than Jackson, more knees than Vaughan and more at the club than Cody. He''ll do for me.[/quote]Lol, whilst I was typing my huge reply you got in there with this. You are spot on. We aren''t going to get a 15 goal a season striker for £2.5m, the best that we can hope for is that a couple of our strikers manage to steal 6-8 goals each. Top five scorers last year:Tevez                          20 goals    £47mBerbatov                    20 goals    £31mVan Persie                 18 goals    £2.75m   (genius signing)Bent                           17 goals    £18mOdemwingie              15 goals    UndisclosedKuyt                           13 goals     £9mMalouda                     13 goals     £13mCarroll                        13 goals    £31m (after event, was youth product)DJ Campbell              13 goals     £1.25mJavier Hernandez       13 goals     £6mThe likes of Rooney, Torres, and Drogba aren''t even on the list. To expect any more than 1 in 4 from any Norwich striker is dream land fantasy football stuff. Occassionally you get a DJ Campbell or a Michael Ricketts punching above their weight, especially when playing a lone striker. Morisons 1 goal in 3 starts and 2 sub appearances is about as good as should expect from any of our strikers. [/quote]Top 10 even!
  21. [quote user="Robert N. LiM"]In the games I''ve seen he looks like an honest trier, probably not true Prem quality, but which striker is for less than 20million? But he''s clearly the best man for the lone striker role in our excellent 4-2-3-1 formation (if only PL had listened to me at the start of the season, we could be top by now...) More mobile than Holt, more presence than Jackson, more knees than Vaughan and more at the club than Cody. He''ll do for me.[/quote]Lol, whilst I was typing my huge reply you got in there with this. You are spot on. We aren''t going to get a 15 goal a season striker for £2.5m, the best that we can hope for is that a couple of our strikers manage to steal 6-8 goals each. Top five scorers last year:Tevez                          20 goals    £47mBerbatov                    20 goals    £31mVan Persie                 18 goals    £2.75m   (genius signing)Bent                           17 goals    £18mOdemwingie              15 goals    UndisclosedKuyt                           13 goals     £9mMalouda                     13 goals     £13mCarroll                        13 goals    £31m (after event, was youth product)DJ Campbell              13 goals     £1.25mJavier Hernandez       13 goals     £6mThe likes of Rooney, Torres, and Drogba aren''t even on the list. To expect any more than 1 in 4 from any Norwich striker is dream land fantasy football stuff. Occassionally you get a DJ Campbell or a Michael Ricketts punching above their weight, especially when playing a lone striker. Morisons 1 goal in 3 starts and 2 sub appearances is about as good as should expect from any of our strikers.
  22. [quote user="Gingerpele"]Its not pathetic, its someone''s opinion. And to be honest, although i don''t fully agree I do understand where they are coming from. If Morison had missed that header last night, and not had another chance to score, that would have been 3 or 4 very good chances to score that he would have missed, and you would have to be defending him based on little output. (But obviously he did score, which is great but that won''t instantly change everyone''s mind, some people don''t see much in Morison, I personally see him as just about good enough, but i certainly don''t rate him above Holt yet, but haven''t disregarded him either) Think about it like this, De Laet has made 3 bad defensive mistakes, leading to goals. Morison had missed 2/3 good chances meaning no goals. If De Laet can be dropped, and seriously questioned without too much defence on his side (Although most people recognise he is probably a really good defender, he just can''t be classed as one until he cuts out the mistakes), essentially De Laet failed his duties, its like when a GK makes mistakes is very visible. To some people, thats what Morison has done as well, he''s failed to score and also because he doesn''t run around quite like Holt his performance doesn''t look as good, even if he is doing just as much (Like Chris Martin, some people fail to see what he does because he isn''t scoring). We should all be happy we have won two in a row, after the loss to WBA, there were lots of worried fans, angry as well. But i think i said, that will all change if we beat Bolton and Sunderland, and it has. We have 7 different goal scorers, Morison is one of those and we should be happy we have two goal scoring strikers. Comments like the ones you quoted, probably come out of worry as much as anything, and we will see less rash comments like that for a while hopefully.[/quote]Questioning his goalscoring ability differs substantially from questioning whether a striker wants to score. Questioning his ability is different from calling him lazy. My main issue here is that his critics could make allegations but weren''t prepared to watch a 3 minute video which shows him get into positions that Grant Holt is, frankly, finding it hard to get into this season. It would 100% conclusively have at least put to the bed the ''not wanting to score'' allegation. Even if they were to respond with another criticism, they weren''t prepared to accept the opportunity to potentially acknowledge a single positive in his game. People had 5 hours between the thread and the game to say either "yes, he did well there", or "nope, sorry, still don''t see it", yet they were prepared to start and participate in a thread with the title ''Steve Morison is poor''. I don''t rate Morison above Holt either, never said that I have, Grant Holt is right up there with my favourite all time players. Holt did a fantastic job when he came on to waste time against Bolton, and was lucky not to get a chance on goal last night, he looked hungry. I suspect that Holt is desperate to take his chance, and wouldn''t rule out him keeping his place in the team above Morison. But I hope if that happens people will understand that without Morison playing well and keeping Holt out of the team, that hunger and desire might not be as prevalent. Holt has needed somebody capable of pushing onto the bench, and now he has it, I think it''s brilliant that we have somebody to push Holty and I wouldn''t rule out the possibility of us seeing a Holt who is better than ever when he returns. I think I did a good job of showing that he offers something to the team whether he is scoring or not, just like Grant Holt did early last season. That was precisely my point, he set up the Hoolahan goal, he set up the Pilkington goal.I think it all boils down to unrealistic expectations, before last night he had started two games and had two appearances as a sub, there are 38 league games in a year. If you look at how many goals strikers score at this level, expecting a goal in such a short space of time is way beyond what peoples realistic expectations should be. When the leading goalscorer last year scored around 1 in every 2 games, and I''m talking about top top players, world class players, the join top scorers were Tevez and Berbatov with 20 each. That''s £78m of transfer fees right there. Berbatov, £31m, Tevez £47m, that''s what you pay for a 20 a season striker.  To expect goals from Morison in two starts is just silly, that''s £2.5 million of footballer right there. If we have bought an 7 or 8 goal a year striker for £2.5 million, then anybody can do the maths there, it would be a bargain. Lot''s of people, not just me, have been saying that 8 goals from Grant Holt this year is a good return, and that''s true too. Look at the goal tallys last year:Drogba   12Rooney  11Hernandez 13K Jones 9Pavlyuchenko  9K Davies 9Ebanks-Blake 7If we are giving strikers two starts before calling them out of not scoring, almost every decent striker in the Premier League would be deemed rubbish. The list of strikers who are yet to score a goal is massive. We simply aren''t going to see Norwich strikers scoring 15-20 goals a season, and when you are writing players off after 2 starts that is precisely what some people appear to be expecting. At this level 1 in 3 is extremely good, but 1 in 4 can be considered decent. That''s the 9 or 10 that you can expect from people like Kevin Davies in a season, and the 9 or 10 that you can expect from Kenwyn Jones, that''s your 1 in 4. The defence is a completely different thing though gingerpele, surely you can see that? A goal conceded is the difference between needing to score 1 goal and 2 goals, it''s huge. Over the season it is probably the thing that enables you to stay in the league with your £2.5m strikers. Swansea have already kept 3 clean sheets this year, QPR have already kept 2 clean sheets. To me failing to keep a clean sheet is the same as failing to score, our first clean sheet will be very important physcologically, I''m crossing my fingers that it can happen at home to Swansea.There are actually only two teams in the league who have yet to keep a clean sheet, us being one of them. I''ll be celebrating that first clean sheet with a pint.
  23. [quote user="spencer 1970"]Lincoln, I think you were wrong to jump on Morison so early, he''ll be great for us this season as my local M''wall mates told me in the summer. However, I will absolutely back your comments on Le Juge...what an annoying lil'' sh1te he is...I skip past his comments now as I find hes all p155 and wind and seems to enjoy the sound of his fingers tapping away more than have any care for the substance of his words. An absolute ar5e! Rockets straight to the top of the doosh pile ahead of some posters who''ve been fighting out top spot for eons! Le Juge, its not worth replying to this if you''re aiming it at me...I wont read it...my laptop has a yawn filter.[/quote]You wot? You wot? You wot, You wot, You wot, You wot?
  24. [quote user="lincoln canary"]Le juge permanently sits on his high horse spouting so called morale bull sh1te he believes in. If he doesn''t believe it it ain''t true and everyone else is wrong. Le juge you are not the judge you are infact an antagonising little sh1t.[/quote]It isn''t the first time that you called something completely out of tune with your fellow fans. In your last thread you advocated dropping Marc Tierney.
  25. [quote user="Gingerpele"]This is probably worse than people criticising Morison, just because you liked him before he scored doesn''t give you the moral high ground..... But good header from him tonight, i think the main reason people maybe haven''t taken an instant liking to him, is that the effort he puts in isn''t quite as visible as Holts. Somehow Holt makes what he does look very impressive, while Morison perhaps does not. Hopefully he scores a few more, I must admit i was worried he would continue to miss chances like he had done in the past 3 games, but definatly took his chance this evening :)[/quote]It is not a case of jumping on to the morale high horse to disprove those who had doubts about him, more a case of being delighted that Morison could raise his middle finger up at comments like this:"I want him to get better and score for us, but does he?""He looks slow lazy and for a big guy remarkably lightweight."To call him lazy, and question whether he wants to score, is pathetic.
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