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  1. Posted

    Any league 1 or league 2 team from North of the Wash. I mean, what is the point of them?

    A long drive if we are unfortunate enough to be drawn against them in the cup. Inedible match day food invariably covered in industrial waste sauce. Inability to speak the King's English. A penchant for skinny dogs.  Inevitable rain. No sun, ever. Homes with outside toilets.  

    And as for City fans living in the North, what are you thinking of?

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    6 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

    Not to be tricky RTB - but your whole assumption above about a creator is based on the notion of forward linear time. In physics you can actual reverse time and everything still makes 'sense'. Time (and passage off) itself is even in our limited 20th century understanding varies with gravity (GPS needs correcting because of it). It stops on the event horizon of black hole looking in.  Indeed is time actually real or just our way of understanding / predicting the universe. Most theories about the so called big bang actually have time starting then - there was not a before in our sense. Is 'time' 'emergent' too? 

    To be religious  - in the beginning there was however the equations, the maths - the 'word'....

    There is another philosophy which holds we are all nothing but mathematical constructs - equations - what can exist mathematically, will exist etc.

    some very interesting points YF, and time is a very interesting concept, especially for someone who hates to be late for things. i think time is both a forward linear and a backward linear concept as well as a sideways in any direction concept depending on how you want to observe it. The easiest way to imagine time, imo, is to imagine the surface of a sphere where there is no beginning and no end. However, if you were to place a dot somewhere on the surface of the sphere you have created a here and now concept, and if you were to trace a line it would disappear into the future but eventually would come round to the past and end up back at the starting point. so in that way time is both forward and backward looking and things are the same whatever way you go. Another interesting feature of this model is that every other single point in time is potentially available to the start point and just requires a change in direction to reach it. so for me this covers the possibility of omniscience. As far as I can tell, the creator kicking off the big bang to begin creation also kicks off time as well.

    I wish I could give you an answer about the behaviour of time around black holes and gravity but i'm afraid I don't know enough detail about the subject.

    some say it takes a leap of faith to believe in a God. i prefer not to use the term 'God' as it comes with several thousands years of baggage and precluded beliefs not based on a god. i much prefer to think in terms of a creator, and i think looking at the evidence of a creation which I can see and am part of, and knowing that creation is an ongoing daily scientific-based process, and then knowing that a creation requires a creator, putting two and two together suggests to me there is a creator that created everything we eperience and that creation started with a big bang

    A finally we come to the beginning - In the beginning was the word - and just like you say, the beginning was all the algorithms that  hold true in science. and once we got the scientific blueprints the creator got busy with their creation. I don't see a conflict between science and the religious belief in a creator. But nobody should be forced or manipulated into believing in a creator.

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    54 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

    If you want to be pedantic, and you clearly do, this thread is about Keir Starmer. So none of the discussion about Angela Rayner is valid.

    If i was being pedantic i would agree that angela raynor deserves her own thread, but it's not me attempting to shutdown discussion by deflection or pedantry. So there, chubby chops.

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    I'm sitting on a chair. It's a very fine wooden chair with carved legs and arm rests.  Now I know nothing about the creator of this chair and looking at the chair there are very few clues about the creator of this fine piece of furniture, but I have a very deep faith that there was a creator because I can see the chair, sit in it and know that nothing exists that hasn't been created from other things. 

    So my faith for a creator of everything comes from the evidence of a universe full of things that are created, were created and will be created.  The Bible talks about the world beginning with light and science is beginning to understand that the universe did begin with light. 

    As a species we have arrived on the scene a few thousand years ago in a universe that has been around for billions of years, so it hardly surprising we don't know very much. Don't be impatient lads. 

    The natural question is if a creator created everything, who created the creator? The answer is sadly we may never know.  We can experience the creation to know there must be a creator but we can't experience the creator to know what the creator is. 

    Perhaps we will find out after we die. Or if you have been lucky enough to experience the divine you may have experienced something of the creator already. 

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    8 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

    Seems to me Israel has now got itself into a bit of pickle.

    Iran clearly considers the matter closed - and the 'coalition' which so successfully shot down those missiles including Jordan and even with help from Saudi Arabia doesn't want any further escalation. They will all take a very dim view if Israeli pokes that hornets nest again yet expects the 'coalition' then to rally round and protect it. They don't wish to be dragged into it further and especially on Netanyahu's terms/whim for partisan Israeli domestic reasons!

    So as others have noted - Israel has lost a degree a freedom in that it now needs to consider the coalitions view in any further action!

    The 'off-ramp' is laid out before it - I would suggest they take it. Will they ?  I rather doubt it

    Clearly the world has changed not to Israel's advantage - the miscalculation was the attack on the Damascus consulate letting Iran call the Israeli's bluff.

    Agreed. Having both Jordan and Saudi Arabia allied on the side of Israel is a massive geo-political game-changer that Israel would do well to nuture that relationship for long term benefit rather than go for a short term gain.

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    On 15/04/2024 at 19:42, king canary said:

    I'm not saying people shouldn't be agitated by islamic terrorist.

    But people like RTB are clearly only agitated by incidents like this if they can blame a Muslim, which is no better than people who desperately want to turn a blind eye.

    I'm agitated by facts. Like all woke people you wish to ignore the facts. I wouldn't give a monkey's if they really were a religion of peace. I would be agitated by Quakers and Buddhists if the facts showed Quakers and Buddhists were committing heinous crimes. But they are not. If you're not going to be guided by the facts but by your feelings then you are never going to arrive at a solution to the problem of heinous crime.

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    1 hour ago, Yellow Fever said:

    Strange little bit of history.

    Iran, under the Pahlivi dynasty (The 'Shah of Iran') was of course very pro-western and Israel - albeit kept in power by brutal repression. Many of it's citizens are still of course pro-western (the protests, head scarves etc) but it now has a very conservative Islamic government as an (over) reaction.

    It's an old story of western hypocrisy - keeping brutal 'friends' in power for geopolitical reasons (Pinochet comes to mind) and then being at a bit of loss when it all unwinds claiming yet some higher ground.

    The root or centre of all the middle-east issues remains the Israeli-Palestinian issue. That fuels the issues and conflicts including Iran. Sort that and all else will follow or become easier. Letting it fester for another twenty years for partisan reasons is in nobodies interests.

    The story of Iran is one of the greatest modern tragedies.  I've had the pleasure of working with a fair number of Iranians and have been struck by how well educated and cultured they are.  Indeed, Iran, or Persia, is one of the oldest and most cultured civilisations in the world. The Iranians I've met have been wonderful people and rightly proud of their heritage. 

    The former Shah of Iran totally misread the mood of the nation and the people of Iran welcomed the Ayatollahs in the 1970s thinking they would have leaders of a moral stature but totally underestimated what the immans had in store for them. Such a tragedy to befall such dignified people. And a reminder of how difficult it is to remove such a cancer from society once it has become established. Here's hoping that one day the Iranian people will be freed. 

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    7 hours ago, BroadstairsR said:

    True, but this nothing to do with black people but more to do with extreme(nb) Muslim factions armed with either machetes-type weapons or worse in order to carry out mass killings and sacrifice themselves in the name of Allah.

    There have been many such atrocities carried out in this country in Europe.

    Black crime is probably more associated with lack of opportunity.

    The majority of both factions being sound citizens who are not dangerous. 

    Furthermore, with the number of Muslim immigrants getting into this country one way or another, there are bound to be some dangerous elements.

     

    I think Muslim factions that you speak of are covered in the statistics I provided under the category 'Other', though of course other indigenous groups (eg. asian) would also be included so it's not specifically Muslim. However 'other' makes up both 14% of the population and commit 14% of the homicides. Still higher than 'whites' on a pro rata basis.

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    3 hours ago, Aggy said:

    Certainly can’t be any worse and you’d hope there’d be fewer ‘controversies’ at least. I’m not convinced there’ll be as much change as we would like, partly because there isn’t the money to do it but partly because I’m not entirely convinced by the current Labour Party leadership either. 

    Yep, it will be much like current lot. they will be dealing with the same mess and using the same tools, so the outcome is bound to be pretty similar to today.

  22. Posted

    1 hour ago, Well b back said:

    That’s good news surely if that means the likes of Sunak f****** off

    It's not good news if £8.5 billion f**** off with them. That means you and I will be making up the shortfall.

  23. Posted

    16 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

    What is the matter with these teams, handing promotion to that bang average Ipswich side on a plate. The sheer amount of luck the scum are getting. 

    Another ridiculous result last night. 

     

    They will be found out in the PL as the bang average Championship side that they are. Lambs to the slaughter. And six points points for us.

  24. Posted

    Think we should aim to finish 6th as we are in good form and finishing strongly, and probably even able to rest a few against Birmingham. whereas the top 3 are all imploding under the pressure and whoever finishes third it will not be a happy place for the 3rd place fans, and they will have to play their strongest team all the way to the last match of the 46. The stars are in alignment in our favour.

  25. Posted

    1 hour ago, Nick Freeman said:

    Anyone interested in participating in the documentary? Or any ideas on what might be interesting to capture in Norwich while the production team is in town next week? Eccentric fans, interesting memorabilia, etc. Anyone with memories of Tony Powell would be great

    Tbh, Tony Powell wasn't one of the more charismatic members of the squad. from memory he got on with his job in a quiet and competent manner. You could try getting in touch with his team mates as there were a fair few characters in that squad.

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