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I think that we will find out this season.

Great metaphor!👍

I have never heard of a "spinal stroke" before. Reminds us of how fragile lee is - I remember him as a strapping vigorous player. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/58623612

Oh good, I like a laissez faire boss!

Sorry, I was late going on my break - can I come back later?😃

I said that I hadn't found it illuminating. I don't think your scan was very effective. Monty and you have consistently defended fans for booing and in your case, you think the loss of control is justifiable. I don't know if you went to the game but where I was there were several big arguments when fans tried to stand up against the bully boys, with threats flying and people having to be held apart. But that's ok isn't it KC - football is a passionate game, it's all understandable and justifiable!

? You obviously either haven't read it or are deliberately misquoting. For the record, I said, So you have moved from a total lack of reasoning to dissembling - I'm not finding this conversation very illuminating KC, so I will let you have the last word as it seems to be very important to you 👍

I wasn't - I was responding directly to a question. I thought that it was a pretty stupid comparison too but didn't want to give the poster the chance to say that I had ignored his question. In retrospect, it was a pretty dumb idea to respond as the person clearly wasn't interested in honest debate. No - you have to be supportive. I don't think booing falls into the category of being "supportive" and feel that is is the opposite - it is destructive and undermining. I can't help what the word means. With regard being concerned, yes I am, but not completely shocked. I posted before the game I know I am biased but, I think my comments before the game were pretty much spot on! 😃 If we are to believe Monty (which I don't), the booing fans are attacking the management and the board and want them gone - I think that this would be disastrous campaign to start.

Well-reasoned. 👍

No. For it to work, you have to spend the same as you earn over the medium term. This gives us an advantage over investor clubs where they have spend less than they earn so that they can pay the investors or in several cases, the banks.. This is an advantage of several million a year. The critical issue for us is staying up the first time. Then we would be able to build upon a squad that is already competitive. It would require fewer purchases and would enable a higher average spend per player. I read somewhere (but cannot source, sorry) that the average number of promoted teams to get relegated each year is 1.7. In other words, a promoted team is more likely to be relegated than stay up - statistically, this works out that leaving all other things aside, a promoted teams chances of getting relegated in the first year are 57%. This applies each time we are promoted. It is frustrating, I know but it is the reality of modern football. in many ways, the perception of our problem is influence by the fact that the strength of our model means that we are promoted more quickly than just about any other team.

I presume that must be Suffolk surely! 😃

"There are no so blind as those that will not see." You claim that Saturday's booing was considered and thought-through constructive criticism. I think that you are deluded in this. You think that writing letters and criticising something that is against the club's stated values is the same as booing hysterically at the players and threatening violence against fellow supporters who stand up for the team are similar actions. I think that you are deluded in this too. I can however, see that you are not going to acknowledge doubt anymore than your fellow pro-booer who justifies it as a justifiable consequence of roused passions. How it can be both aroused passions and considered is beyond me, but I am sure that neither of you recognise the contradiction, so why bother? No doubt you also see the booing of taking the knee (and then laughing about it) as a principled stand against Marxism rather than racism, despite the number of times it has been explained by football in general that it is not a political gesture. Regretfully, when opinions are formed without reason, no amount of reasoning will change your mind.

See what I mean Ricardo 😉

I wouldn't leave a tip at all. I would complain. However, I wouldn't bray like a donkey or moo like a cow. I don't think I would return to the restaurant. But then I'm not a restaurant supporter, I'm a restaurant customer.

Sorry Kenny - I've just re-read my post to you and it was unnecessarily aggressive. Please accept my apologies. The irony of the fact that I am accusing others of lacking self-restraint does not escape me😳

I am simply pointing out what the word means. Nobody booed the team for BK8, they were critical of one action of one member of the management team in a reasonable way with a constructive outcome - it is therefore supportive. I'm surprised you can't see the difference and suspect that it is only because you don't want to. Please explain to me what you think was measured/ reasonable and constructive about yesterday?

I understand your point Kenny, but it just doesn't follow the meaning of the word. One of the criticisms someone I made earlier was "so you are saying that supporters have to be supportive" without realising what he was the silliness of what he was saying!

A good argument and gve me need to reflect - about the only one that has been made tbh. I can see that if the booing was done with a constructive end in mind, it could fit within the definition of being supportive - "cruel to be kind/ tough love" kind of thing. In these circumstances, I would be happy to concede the point, although with some reluctance as it means that others with far less integrity than yourself will use it to justify their actions. TBH, I'm not sure that many of yesterday's booers were making a considered point that they wish to replace the manager and I really can't see that it was in anyway supportive and helpful - particularly with a group of young players, many from abroad, who are likely to be nervous and short of confidence. I suspect that they were mainly man-children with a lack of self-restraint. With your earlier point about Robert Chase, my recollection is that we made a big point of only criticisinghase and not the players - Chase Out, Chase Out etc + didn't we do it mainly after games - I can remember standing outside the main stand with thousands chanting it. + Your other point about our future - I am far more optimistic than you about our chances to be "established" in the PL (obviously depends upon how you define it). We have been performing above our average level for four years now + have strengthened the playing squad + made radical improvements to our training facilities. Several of our rival clubs are saddled with debt and will really struggle when the inevitable relegation comes about. Staying up is important of course, not least because each place is worth 2.5 million, so at 16th (my prediction) we would be £10 million richer + able to build upon foundations. It is frustrating atm, but the long term future is good as long as we don't panic.

And as I said:

What is what the word supporter means - you are not repeating it - you haven't ever stated what it means only that you know. "You are basically saying as a supporter you must be universally supportive of the club" I'm just pointing out what the word means, it is not an argument. Don't you recognise the irony of what you have said - you are saying that "a supporter has to be supportive." Well, that is what the word means... With regards "universal" I'm not sure that this is necessary - it certainly doesn't appear in any definition that I have seen. I think that the word supporter does require a person who has such an epithet to be supportive and never undermining and destructive of the thing that they are supposed to support. "So all the people who criticised the BK8 deal arent supporters then?" Of course they are. They responded in an appropriate way. I posted above about about legitimate expressions of dissatisfaction and several of these were deployed. They did not boo the team or try to undermine it, but reminded the management of the clubs values. It seems that owners agreed with the supporters rather than the managers, which clearly annoyed Webber. I would see it as a textbook example of how supporters can raise matters of concern without damaging the team that they support.

Reasonable vocabulary but you don't seem to understand the words. Additionally there is a complete complete absence of reasoning, logic or content. Name calling is a similar type of activity to booing, and equally childish.

You said that my statement that supporters don't boo was an opinion not a fact. I was just showing you the definition of a supporter. In simple terms it is one who supports but I provided you with a dictionary definition. supporter - noun - a person who approves of and encourages a public figure, political party, policy, etc

...Do you? Define support and a supporter to prove it. I'm sure if you look long and hard enough you may find some anomalous definition that you will try to build an argument upon, but anybody with a modicum of intellectual honesty knows that a supporter is one who supports. Booing does not support, it is an undermining and critical behaviour and not a supportive one.