TheNewBoy

[quote user="CDMullins"] With a year to go before his contract ends, no one will be paying any where near £7-8Million and West Sham will be taking whatever they can get! Also i believe we waived the right to any sell on fee. [/quote] This needs to be cleared up, I am going to email Archant and the club to see if somebody is willing to redisclose that information. I find it a bit silly that Archant does not retain old articles, particularly as they all remain indexed in the search engines if not deleted. Their business model for the online stuff is ad revenue, more articles means more traffic, more traffic means more ad revenue.... I know because I make my full time living the same way. If they had all old articles, like most sites, I could use their otherwise pointless search facility and find out within seconds!

We keep speculating as to whether Newcastle want him to come back here, whether they want a fee, whether we could buy him..... does the bloke even want to come back here? He could have his pick of Championship clubs now, moving to Norwich isn''t essential. Maybe, just maybe, he has a soft spot for some other teams in the league? He hasn''t made particularly big noises about wanting to move back to Norwich, plenty of other players have done very well on loan to us and never looked back. Peter Crouch is one example, Scott Parker another, David Bentley. Maybe, just maybe, HE doesn''t see the point in coming back. If he wants to be at Newcastle in the long term, or fancies himself to earn another Premiership move within the next year or two, then it really isn''t going to matter which Championship team he moves to. Has he actually ever said that he WANTS to come back to Norwich again next year? I have only ever got the impression that he wouldn''t rule it out. Plenty of players show a passion for football and results without really holding any loyalty in a club, Craig Bellamy is one of them. Why can''t we just lay it down? "Chris Hughton, can a deal be done on Foster? Give us a yes or no by next Tuesday"..... "Yes"..... ........... "Fraser, do you want to come back to Norwich for a year, yes or no, let me know by next Thursday"...... "Yes I do"...... DONE - otherwise lets go and get an experienced campaigner on a permanent deal and order Rudd to force his way into the team.

[quote user="knockout nick"]westwood you got £3-4 million have you[/quote] They wont get £3 - 4 mil for a player with one year left on his contract. That said, he wouldn''t come here anyway.

[quote user="Gingerpele"]Newcastle would never accept 900k for Forster.......they are probably looking for 3-4 Million at least, he is already very good, and will probably improve.... [/quote] No way, £1.5m max. Here we have a player who hasn''t even played for the England Under 21s, albeit without real justice. An England International keeper just moved for a fee reported to be £4m, from one of the worlds richest clubs to a fellow Premiership club. If you think that Newcastle could start demanding that kind of a fee for a keeper who nobody would put behind the sticks in the Premiership just yet, then well.... no chance.  

[quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="TheNewBoy"] If Greeno has a blinder at the world cup, e.g. pulls off a Banks style wonder save and helps us to the final, we could be in for some serious cash. If for example Manchester United bought him for £8m, considering we sold him for what, £2m? We would get around £900k from West Ham if the 15% of profit figure is to be believed. I am one of those who is convinced that the Peter Grant deal relating only to appearance bonuses for either Greeno or Ashton. What would you do with £900k if we recieved it? I would offer it straight back to Newcastle United along, with a 15% of profit clause, for you know who ;) [/quote]   I think any sell on clause has gone due to P.Grant becoming our manager...but i may be wrong[/quote] I wish that Pete or somebody from Archant would come along and put this issue to bed once and for all, it would take them 5 minutes to search their digital archives. The orginal stuff about the Grant compo deal was published by them, so ultimately the buck stops at them. I am personally convinced that the Grant Compo deal was made up of £450k worth of appearance and goal clauses for both Green and Ashton, including the one for Ashtons first England cap with was worth something like £150k. I may put in a request for clarification to Archant or the club soon, because this uncertainty has dragged on for two years now.

If Greeno has a blinder at the world cup, e.g. pulls off a Banks style wonder save and helps us to the final, we could be in for some serious cash. If for example Manchester United bought him for £8m, considering we sold him for what, £2m? We would get around £900k from West Ham if the 15% of profit figure is to be believed. I am one of those who is convinced that the Peter Grant deal relating only to appearance bonuses for either Greeno or Ashton. What would you do with £900k if we recieved it? I would offer it straight back to Newcastle United along, with a 15% of profit clause, for you know who ;)

[quote user="NCFC-47"][quote user="Gooders_Army"]hi all, i feel very satisfied by our four new signings so far. Crofts sounds a very tidy and energetic midfielder and fox sounds a very good footballer with a decent range of passing so they should add competition. Smith is a very quick fall back and great going forward and has played champions league football so cant be bad and elliot ward is experienced at championship level and can play in midfield so again adds competition and height at the back. It is also great to be signing players early so we get ahead of other teams and so we dont have to rush signings in late july august as usual lol. Lambert also seems very dedicated and working really hard since the end of last season in recruiting players and planning for the future. I still feel we need a right back a wide midfielder with pace, obviously resigning forster and one or two strikers maybe or at least one. Id love us to sign nick bailey from charlton cause he works his socks off and can play in the centre as well as wide left and caused us lots of problems at the valley. Hope everyone is looking forward too the world cup cant wait. Ive done a fantasy league on mcdonalds if peeps r interested. Type world cup fantasy league on google and it is the first option to come up. Register on the site for free, pick your squad and go to the league tab on the right hand side and select join a classic league and the code to join is: 457400-111395 be great if loads of people join be a good crack OTBC :)[/quote] Full back ? but i do agree wiht what your saying totally dudee. [/quote] Fall back would be more than applicable if discussing somebody like Jon Otsemober.

[quote user="Quentin"]The only player we have signed so far that I''ve heard of is Elliot Ward. Not a good sign. [/quote] I''d never heard of Fraser Forster when we signed him.

[quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="GJP"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="GJP"][quote user="TheNewBoy"] Elliott Wade - By all accounts a classy centre back who can actually play the ball out of defence. I have seen him play at least ten times and have never seen him make a mistake. Whilst I did rate Doherty, and believed that he would have been sufficient, he did not do much for our passing game. If I watched Doherty ten times, I could expect at least 3 or 4 very dodgy moments even in League One. Norwich City have fans which like to see a traditional passing game, we haven''t had that for years now - last season was the first time we saw that aspect beginning to return. We were once very proud of the reputation we gained for being an excellent footballing team, and now we have a Centre back who can play his way out of defence. I don''t want to hype this signing up too much, he isn''t going to play for England, but again - an excellent aquisition on a Free Transfer. He is younger than Doherty, more of a threat in front of goal than Doherty, can play with the ball on the floor better than Doherty, and is probably earning less than Doherty. How much would a contracted Elliott Wade cost to buy? Probably £750k - £1m. The bloke is clearly Championship standard. Was Doherty? Probably, but I don''t want our club to take that risk again. The closest former player that I can relate Wade to is Martin Taylor, and we all know how much he changed our game by keeping the ball on the floor. 8/10   [/quote] I do think Elliott Ward is a good signing. However, I think your assessment of Doherty is off the mark. I think because he has that "clumsy" label applied to him (inaccurately) people don''t realise how tidy he is on the ball. He was always very careful in possession, his use of the ball was very sensible, he had a good touch and we also saw that he could ping it 40-50 yards and put it on the money. Unfortunately for Gary Doherty if there wasn''t a pass on when he had the ball he had 2 options. One was to play a pass that probably wouldn''t do his team mate any favours and the other option was to hoof it forward. If he did either of those things he would take stick from the crowd because most of them can''t read the situation well enough to know he was left in a pretty hopeless situation. Of course what counted against the Doc was that he was signed as the club was likely to go downhill. Elliott Ward has been signed at a time when the club is likely to go uphill again. There''s plenty of fans out there who will tie/associate Doherty to our slump which is unfair and isn''t a reflection of his ability as a player. Elliott Ward is already seen as a good signing, people expect him to be a good player for us but he will make mistakes and he will have bad games but I suspect his errors will be overlooked a little more than any errors the Doc made.   [/quote] I don''t think that my assessment as Doherty as somebody who could "probably" cut in it in The Championship as being unfair. He has never looked anything better than an average Centre Back in The Championship to almost all City Fans. We got 5 decent years out of him, he is now 30, now we can go and get 5 or 6 decent years out of Elliott Ward. We now have Whitbread, Askou, Ward and Nelson. Whilst I do not rate Nelson as a player who could cut the mustard in this league, there is no way we could justifying having Whitbread, Askou, Ward, Nelson and Doherty at the club. Somebody had to make way for Ward, and Doherty was the one out of contract. The likelyhood is that Ward is better than any of those players, so I stick by my assessment. There is no denying that we achieved two relegations with Doherty in the team. He never looked a patch on Shackell when he was here. I think that Ward is at least as good as Shackell. And the suggestion that Doherty can play a 40 or 50 yard pass because he did it well once or twice is ridiculous. Doherty is well suited to ''hoofball'', occassionally a hoof will look like a world class pass. Doherty may be a solid centre back when he has the confidence, but Maldini he is not. [/quote] I wasn''t commenting on your opinion that he could probably cut it in the Championship. I wasn''t commenting on how you didn''t do his ability on the ball any justice. As you say, he''s not Maldini but then we''re not AC Milan. And until we have bucket loads of cash to spend we''re not going to see too many better defenders at the club than Gary Doherty. I''m sure Elliott Ward will be a good signing but he will have to come in and be our best defender because that''s who he is replacing, if he''s not our best defender then, football wise, we''ll have taken a step back. Doherty only passed it 40/50 yards once or twice? Is that what you think? He often flighted the ball into the right place, when you''re playing a ball out of defence you''re not always going to be able to put it on someone''s head, chest or feet (especially when they''re under pressure) so sometimes you just have to knock it into the right area and that was something he did quite comfortably. We''re not going to watch Elliott Ward rip teams to shreds with pin point passes every game, it just doesn''t happen like that. Finally...your judgement that he never looked a patch on Shackell is again off the mark in my opinion. Before Shackell went to Wolves he was always the weaker link in defence but fortunately he came back from Wolves as a better competitor on the pitch, probably because he''d been out of his comfort zone. [/quote] Well if we all had the same opinions then the world would be a boring place, or it would be like North Korea. It sounds like we have been watching a completely different player mate! It seems that we are poles apart in our opinions on this matter, I wouldn''t even say that Gary Doherty was our best defender last year - Adam Drury stole that one for me, only problem is his fitness. Its almost as if you have seen a defender who can pass his way out of defence, I have seen a player who struggles to pass his way out of defence. Martin Taylor made me realise how poor Doherty''s distribution was, now that really was a centre back who could spot a good pass. The performance of our defence last year really isn''t a great way to measure Doherty''s ability, he was playing alongside an average League One centre back in Micky Nelson, a League One right back in Russell Martin, and for a period of time an average League One left back in Micheal Rose. Yes Gary Doherty probably was our best defender last year, I haven''t disputed that, but he was the best of a bad bunch. Next season is an entirely different kettle of fish. And yes I was talking about Shackell post departure, the last time we were in The Championship. Prior to Shackells departure he had been no worse than Doherty, they were both as bad as each other. Losing Shackell was a disaster, I would have him back at the club in a heartbeat - as justified by his top form for Doncaster. I think that Shackell had perhaps 6 bad months at the same time as Doherty, to say that he was ''always the weaker link'' is quite wide of the mark. I have not once attempted to make Doherty a scapegoat on this thread, you seem to think that I am. I am simply calling it as I see it. Elliott Ward is a better Centre Back than Gary Doherty. I don''t know how much you have seen of Ward, but all I have said is that I think Ward is better than Doherty. You may think that I''m not giving Doherty enough credit, but I think you are not giving Ward enough credit. Doherty may have been the best of a bad bunch, well he was the best of the bad bunch since it is hard to choose a left back who missed 15 games, but next season we will have no Steven Smith, we will probably see a rejuvinated Whitbread, Askou who looked solid at the start of the season has the chance to fight for a place. I like Doherty, you seem to love Doherty, but we don''t need Doherty. It is as simple as that. We have three centre backs who are fully capable of playing Championship football once they get going - Ward, Whitbread, Askou. We have another player in Spillane who could probably do a job there. And as for Nelson, well Lambert is stuck with him for another year. What it boils down to is this..... I don''t think that we need Doherty, you seem to think that losing him is a disaster. Until we have played 10 Championship games there really is no way of knowing who is right so I can''t really see where this argument could go. And yes Doherty did make lots of mistakes, tonnes of them, every game..... in The Champs. Maybe not in League One, well even League One at times. He stands too often on the wrong side of his marker, comes unstuck by letting any player with half decent pace to turn him on the inside, he still puts his hands on players shoulders for no reason whatsoever. He could get away with it in League One, but he never cut it for us in this league. [/quote] *Next season we will have no Michael Rose and probably no Micky Nelson that was supposed to say.

[quote user="GJP"][quote user="TheNewBoy"][quote user="GJP"][quote user="TheNewBoy"] Elliott Wade - By all accounts a classy centre back who can actually play the ball out of defence. I have seen him play at least ten times and have never seen him make a mistake. Whilst I did rate Doherty, and believed that he would have been sufficient, he did not do much for our passing game. If I watched Doherty ten times, I could expect at least 3 or 4 very dodgy moments even in League One. Norwich City have fans which like to see a traditional passing game, we haven''t had that for years now - last season was the first time we saw that aspect beginning to return. We were once very proud of the reputation we gained for being an excellent footballing team, and now we have a Centre back who can play his way out of defence. I don''t want to hype this signing up too much, he isn''t going to play for England, but again - an excellent aquisition on a Free Transfer. He is younger than Doherty, more of a threat in front of goal than Doherty, can play with the ball on the floor better than Doherty, and is probably earning less than Doherty. How much would a contracted Elliott Wade cost to buy? Probably £750k - £1m. The bloke is clearly Championship standard. Was Doherty? Probably, but I don''t want our club to take that risk again. The closest former player that I can relate Wade to is Martin Taylor, and we all know how much he changed our game by keeping the ball on the floor. 8/10   [/quote] I do think Elliott Ward is a good signing. However, I think your assessment of Doherty is off the mark. I think because he has that "clumsy" label applied to him (inaccurately) people don''t realise how tidy he is on the ball. He was always very careful in possession, his use of the ball was very sensible, he had a good touch and we also saw that he could ping it 40-50 yards and put it on the money. Unfortunately for Gary Doherty if there wasn''t a pass on when he had the ball he had 2 options. One was to play a pass that probably wouldn''t do his team mate any favours and the other option was to hoof it forward. If he did either of those things he would take stick from the crowd because most of them can''t read the situation well enough to know he was left in a pretty hopeless situation. Of course what counted against the Doc was that he was signed as the club was likely to go downhill. Elliott Ward has been signed at a time when the club is likely to go uphill again. There''s plenty of fans out there who will tie/associate Doherty to our slump which is unfair and isn''t a reflection of his ability as a player. Elliott Ward is already seen as a good signing, people expect him to be a good player for us but he will make mistakes and he will have bad games but I suspect his errors will be overlooked a little more than any errors the Doc made.   [/quote] I don''t think that my assessment as Doherty as somebody who could "probably" cut in it in The Championship as being unfair. He has never looked anything better than an average Centre Back in The Championship to almost all City Fans. We got 5 decent years out of him, he is now 30, now we can go and get 5 or 6 decent years out of Elliott Ward. We now have Whitbread, Askou, Ward and Nelson. Whilst I do not rate Nelson as a player who could cut the mustard in this league, there is no way we could justifying having Whitbread, Askou, Ward, Nelson and Doherty at the club. Somebody had to make way for Ward, and Doherty was the one out of contract. The likelyhood is that Ward is better than any of those players, so I stick by my assessment. There is no denying that we achieved two relegations with Doherty in the team. He never looked a patch on Shackell when he was here. I think that Ward is at least as good as Shackell. And the suggestion that Doherty can play a 40 or 50 yard pass because he did it well once or twice is ridiculous. Doherty is well suited to ''hoofball'', occassionally a hoof will look like a world class pass. Doherty may be a solid centre back when he has the confidence, but Maldini he is not. [/quote] I wasn''t commenting on your opinion that he could probably cut it in the Championship. I wasn''t commenting on how you didn''t do his ability on the ball any justice. As you say, he''s not Maldini but then we''re not AC Milan. And until we have bucket loads of cash to spend we''re not going to see too many better defenders at the club than Gary Doherty. I''m sure Elliott Ward will be a good signing but he will have to come in and be our best defender because that''s who he is replacing, if he''s not our best defender then, football wise, we''ll have taken a step back. Doherty only passed it 40/50 yards once or twice? Is that what you think? He often flighted the ball into the right place, when you''re playing a ball out of defence you''re not always going to be able to put it on someone''s head, chest or feet (especially when they''re under pressure) so sometimes you just have to knock it into the right area and that was something he did quite comfortably. We''re not going to watch Elliott Ward rip teams to shreds with pin point passes every game, it just doesn''t happen like that. Finally...your judgement that he never looked a patch on Shackell is again off the mark in my opinion. Before Shackell went to Wolves he was always the weaker link in defence but fortunately he came back from Wolves as a better competitor on the pitch, probably because he''d been out of his comfort zone. [/quote] Well if we all had the same opinions then the world would be a boring place, or it would be like North Korea. It sounds like we have been watching a completely different player mate! It seems that we are poles apart in our opinions on this matter, I wouldn''t even say that Gary Doherty was our best defender last year - Adam Drury stole that one for me, only problem is his fitness. Its almost as if you have seen a defender who can pass his way out of defence, I have seen a player who struggles to pass his way out of defence. Martin Taylor made me realise how poor Doherty''s distribution was, now that really was a centre back who could spot a good pass. The performance of our defence last year really isn''t a great way to measure Doherty''s ability, he was playing alongside an average League One centre back in Micky Nelson, a League One right back in Russell Martin, and for a period of time an average League One left back in Micheal Rose. Yes Gary Doherty probably was our best defender last year, I haven''t disputed that, but he was the best of a bad bunch. Next season is an entirely different kettle of fish. And yes I was talking about Shackell post departure, the last time we were in The Championship. Prior to Shackells departure he had been no worse than Doherty, they were both as bad as each other. Losing Shackell was a disaster, I would have him back at the club in a heartbeat - as justified by his top form for Doncaster. I think that Shackell had perhaps 6 bad months at the same time as Doherty, to say that he was ''always the weaker link'' is quite wide of the mark. I have not once attempted to make Doherty a scapegoat on this thread, you seem to think that I am. I am simply calling it as I see it. Elliott Ward is a better Centre Back than Gary Doherty. I don''t know how much you have seen of Ward, but all I have said is that I think Ward is better than Doherty. You may think that I''m not giving Doherty enough credit, but I think you are not giving Ward enough credit. Doherty may have been the best of a bad bunch, well he was the best of the bad bunch since it is hard to choose a left back who missed 15 games, but next season we will have no Steven Smith, we will probably see a rejuvinated Whitbread, Askou who looked solid at the start of the season has the chance to fight for a place. I like Doherty, you seem to love Doherty, but we don''t need Doherty. It is as simple as that. We have three centre backs who are fully capable of playing Championship football once they get going - Ward, Whitbread, Askou. We have another player in Spillane who could probably do a job there. And as for Nelson, well Lambert is stuck with him for another year. What it boils down to is this..... I don''t think that we need Doherty, you seem to think that losing him is a disaster. Until we have played 10 Championship games there really is no way of knowing who is right so I can''t really see where this argument could go. And yes Doherty did make lots of mistakes, tonnes of them, every game..... in The Champs. Maybe not in League One, well even League One at times. He stands too often on the wrong side of his marker, comes unstuck by letting any player with half decent pace to turn him on the inside, he still puts his hands on players shoulders for no reason whatsoever. He could get away with it in League One, but he never cut it for us in this league.

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"] [quote user="Nuff Said"]I''m not convinced it would be a wise investment anyway. With Rudd and Steer on the bench how many England keepers do we need? Get Fraser back for one more season definitely if we can, but then let''s use our home grown resources. [/quote]   What??   Forster (I find it cringeworthy fans calling players by their first names who they''ve never met before!) was absolute classs last season and a major factor in the title win!   For £700,000 I''d of thought Norwich will write the cheque out ASAP!   I''m all for using home grown resources but if the chance to get a special talent comes along then you don''t turn it down!   Anyway its not set in stone that Rudd and particularly Steer whos never played in the 1st team will make it though I''d give Rudd a very good chance!   Its like Norwich pinning their hopes on Adeyemi making it but the truth is unless he improves he won''t make it with us and you can say the same about Whitbread!   With Forster you''d get a player whos proved himself and is good enough now. The club saw too much of that pinning their hopes on players like the Jarvis bros and Henderson when they clearly were probably never going to be good enough!  [/quote] Ryan Jarvis could have made the grade if Worthington knew how to harness the ability of youngsters, he was clueless in that respect. Ryan came through the system and then played nothing more than a cameo role for four years before being sent out for his first loan spell. If he was good enough to make his City debut at 16 then he was good enough to go out on loan, he was 21 before he went to Orient for his first proper spell of games. Either a player is ready to be involved in the first team or he is not, he should have been out on loan for a season at 18, and then another season at 19 if he needed it. We could have had a cracking player on our hands at 20 if he wasn''t allowed to rot in the reserves. As for Hendo though, I never got over the fact that we kept that waste of space over Paul Hayes and then watched him run about like a headless chicken every week whilst Hayes was making a name for himself as a good young goalscorer. That was another Worthy mistake, not many people are suprised by the fact that Hayes made the grade in The Championship - particularly those who had watched reserve games and friendlies in the two years before he was released from the club.

[quote user="singing canary"]if we get Fraser in . loan the other 2 out , then sell one . we should have done that with Joe lewis . Joe is worth more money now , so is Chris martin. we should keep hold of young players with something about them and use the loan system to our advantage .[/quote] We should have loaned out Joe Lewis and sold him? So his loans to Stockport and Morcambe dont count then? And his transfer to Peterborough doesn''t count as selling him? Loaning out Joe Lewis and then selling him was precisely what we did, and we did it precisely wrong too since he was better than the crock of shite we had between the sticks at the time. 

[quote user="TheNewBoy"] [quote user="Norfolk Mustard"][quote user="When Saturday Comes"]I think this is just a bit of jealousy really - let''s just accept that Ipswich have a VERY good player on their hands. I reckon in 4 years time we''ll all be supporting him at the World Cup. He is that good, and good luck to him. Seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. [/quote] Guys - no jealousy whatsoever from me - I love watching football of all types. I coach kids, am Vice Chair of my local club, Child Welfare Officer etc too - so I''m well involved and appreciate the game. If Wickham plays for England I''ll be delighted. If he score a hat trick against Norwich next season I''ll gracefully ackowledge his achievement. I haven''t seen him play; the point I was making is his stats aren''t brilliant. If he''s come off the bench maybe that''s different, but doesn''t that beg the question why if he''s supposed to be so good? Rooney was let loose to start and complete 90 minute Premiership games at 16 - David Moyes showed there''s no need to hold back major talent if they''re strong enough.[/quote] And if you do decide that judging a 16 year old by ''stats'' isn''t such a bright idea, then here is a video of the winning goal in the U17 European Championships final against, no less than, Spain. He had already scored both goals against France in the semi-final and 2 goals against the Czech Republic. He is a right footed player who scored both of his goals with his left foot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wFeZjwQdR8 You might want to compare Wickham with Chris Martin, whilst the rest of football is comparing him with Fernando Torres. Former Internationals were even suggesting that he should be taken to the world cup. I am just shocked really, that somebody doesn''t rate him - he is almost the complete player at 17, this has thrown me a bit. [/quote] *both of his goals against France with his left foot.

[quote user="Norfolk Mustard"][quote user="When Saturday Comes"]I think this is just a bit of jealousy really - let''s just accept that Ipswich have a VERY good player on their hands. I reckon in 4 years time we''ll all be supporting him at the World Cup. He is that good, and good luck to him. Seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. [/quote] Guys - no jealousy whatsoever from me - I love watching football of all types. I coach kids, am Vice Chair of my local club, Child Welfare Officer etc too - so I''m well involved and appreciate the game. If Wickham plays for England I''ll be delighted. If he score a hat trick against Norwich next season I''ll gracefully ackowledge his achievement. I haven''t seen him play; the point I was making is his stats aren''t brilliant. If he''s come off the bench maybe that''s different, but doesn''t that beg the question why if he''s supposed to be so good? Rooney was let loose to start and complete 90 minute Premiership games at 16 - David Moyes showed there''s no need to hold back major talent if they''re strong enough.[/quote] And if you do decide that judging a 16 year old by ''stats'' isn''t such a bright idea, then here is a video of the winning goal in the U17 European Championships final against, no less than, Spain. He had already scored both goals against France in the semi-final and 2 goals against the Czech Republic. He is a right footed player who scored both of his goals with his left foot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wFeZjwQdR8 You might want to compare Wickham with Chris Martin, whilst the rest of football is comparing him with Fernando Torres. Former Internationals were even suggesting that he should be taken to the world cup. I am just shocked really, that somebody doesn''t rate him - he is almost the complete player at 17, this has thrown me a bit.

[quote user="Coelho"]Well if they do get their asking price, maybe Marcus Evans will be able to take back the money the club owes him and f**k off back into the hole from which he came... we can but hope ;) [/quote] I don''t want Marcus Evans to go anywhere, he is doing an excellent job of wasting money on achieving nothing. Any man who appoints Roy Keane as manager of Ipswich Town is a legend in my eyes.