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[quote user="colufan"]Right let''s clear up the inaccuracy. It''s a Football League tribunal for a breach of Football League rules - nothing to do with the FA at all. If it gets as far as the tribunal then they will judge on the evidence of the rule breach submitted - not on what the sides have said in the build up. As far as what I have seen you at the very least have clearly broken rule 20.3 in that you breached the conditions set by RC when he allowed you to talk to Lambert, namely that no appointment could be made before compensation had been agreed. You may have breached 20.1 and 20.2 as well but that I know nothing about. The part of 20.3 dealing with attaching conditions to an agreement to allow talks is there for precisely that purpose, to allow talks without prejudicing your right to compensation. How we both have done since is also of no regard to the issue. Our manager didn''t serve his notice period, he took two backroom staff members who also didn''t serve their notice periods and it put the club in a position when they had to spend more to back the new manager. So Col U was financially disadvantaged. These are the issues that will be considered - if it gets that far. I stick by prediction of no points deduction and you paying more than you wanted and us getting less than we asked for. It is interesting though - to me at least and probably not to you - that it was NCFC that asked for the latest round of talks.[/quote] Funny how the Norwich Chief exec was saying  how he was going to play hardball and not give in and now they call this meeting to try and sort it out. Sounds like someone is losing their bottle

[quote user="morty"][quote user="cufcone"] [quote user="chicken"][quote user="Colchester fan"]Your guys were at the WHCS today discussing our compensation claim, I dont know the outcome it is probably an attempt to avoid a tribunal decision who knows. [/quote] If all is to be believed then I actually think this is more likely to be because your chairman has sounded out the tribunal and he didn''t like what he heard. What do I mean by this? They don''t like people telling them what they should do - ''they must be docked points, I want the maximum punnishment.'' Its a bit like going to court and before the proceedings have started you run up the jury and the judge and scream and stamp like a baby saying that the maximum punnishment MUST be dished out in this case. It wouldn''t go down very well either. Then there is the lying bit. Its obvious there has been communication between the clubs just that one man on the Colchester side of things keeps throwing his toys out of his pram and spins another lie when he doesn''t get what he wants. You can''t honestly tell me that when we stuffed your lot there wasn''t communication between clubs when you had all of the officials present! Not to mention prior to that. Then there is the bit where he claims that a certain ruling has been broken. It hasn''t clearly been broken, we did not tap up Lambert, not did we lure him to break his contract in a way that the ruling suggests. We asked for permission to speak to Lambert, we got permission, we spoke to him, he wanted to come to Norwich. We approached your chairman - who get this - says that what we were willing to pay wasn''t inline with their valuation of Lambert. However they swiftly appointed Boothroyd. No you can see where there are several issues - firstly it is quite clear that your club were not that fussed at loosing Lambert. Secondly there was contact with your club in regards to the compensation - just that they were not willing to negotiate on their valuation of Lambert. So actually there was no ruling broken - just that the valuation of Lambert had not been agreed, Lambert obviously got fed up and knowing your chairman decided he wasn''t going to wait until next winter to get an agreement on the compensation. The other thing I find funny is that its called compensation - which suggests it is an amount agreed AFTER the fact which suggests the act has to happen first. Ie I punch you so you sue me for compensation/damages. This means that sometimes it does drag out. Its not like paying a fee for a player which you have to agree to prior to their transfer. So to be honest I should imagine that having spoken to some legal advisers you club is actually backing down realising that the cry baby of a chairman they have has actually caused more problems than there were - possibly even legal issues such as slander. Tribunal won''t look on any of it very kindly really especially the way he conducted himself in the media making demands and accusations and trying to use the tribunal as a threat to get more money out of us. [/quote] But Norwich have ADMITTED they broke rule 20. Sounds to me like Norwich realize they haven''t got a leg to stand on and are trying to settle it away from a tribunal as they are sh*tting themselves of the outcome.... [/quote] Well obviously you would see it a different way!! We have admitted nothing, and the people we have in charge here now are slick operators who take no crap. More likely the football league see it as the storm in a teacup that your numpty has created and aren''t really interested in getting involved. Our Chief exec has been in football long enough, not only to know his onions, but probably to have contacts within the football league to sound them out about likely outcomes of a tribunal. It''ll be sorted behind closed doors (Like it would have been had Cowling not been a big baby about it all) and both parties will proclaim themselves happy with the outcome, without actually releasing a settlement figure. [/quote] Of course we will see it a different way to you. The other thing is this isn''t a straight forward compensation claim,even if we agree compensation Norwich could still be in trouble with the football league as they have been reported for breaking the rules so the football league could even take further action.

[quote user="chicken"][quote user="Colchester fan"]Your guys were at the WHCS today discussing our compensation claim, I dont know the outcome it is probably an attempt to avoid a tribunal decision who knows. [/quote] If all is to be believed then I actually think this is more likely to be because your chairman has sounded out the tribunal and he didn''t like what he heard. What do I mean by this? They don''t like people telling them what they should do - ''they must be docked points, I want the maximum punnishment.'' Its a bit like going to court and before the proceedings have started you run up the jury and the judge and scream and stamp like a baby saying that the maximum punnishment MUST be dished out in this case. It wouldn''t go down very well either. Then there is the lying bit. Its obvious there has been communication between the clubs just that one man on the Colchester side of things keeps throwing his toys out of his pram and spins another lie when he doesn''t get what he wants. You can''t honestly tell me that when we stuffed your lot there wasn''t communication between clubs when you had all of the officials present! Not to mention prior to that. Then there is the bit where he claims that a certain ruling has been broken. It hasn''t clearly been broken, we did not tap up Lambert, not did we lure him to break his contract in a way that the ruling suggests. We asked for permission to speak to Lambert, we got permission, we spoke to him, he wanted to come to Norwich. We approached your chairman - who get this - says that what we were willing to pay wasn''t inline with their valuation of Lambert. However they swiftly appointed Boothroyd. No you can see where there are several issues - firstly it is quite clear that your club were not that fussed at loosing Lambert. Secondly there was contact with your club in regards to the compensation - just that they were not willing to negotiate on their valuation of Lambert. So actually there was no ruling broken - just that the valuation of Lambert had not been agreed, Lambert obviously got fed up and knowing your chairman decided he wasn''t going to wait until next winter to get an agreement on the compensation. The other thing I find funny is that its called compensation - which suggests it is an amount agreed AFTER the fact which suggests the act has to happen first. Ie I punch you so you sue me for compensation/damages. This means that sometimes it does drag out. Its not like paying a fee for a player which you have to agree to prior to their transfer. So to be honest I should imagine that having spoken to some legal advisers you club is actually backing down realising that the cry baby of a chairman they have has actually caused more problems than there were - possibly even legal issues such as slander. Tribunal won''t look on any of it very kindly really especially the way he conducted himself in the media making demands and accusations and trying to use the tribunal as a threat to get more money out of us. [/quote] But Norwich have ADMITTED they broke rule 20. Sounds to me like Norwich realize they haven''t got a leg to stand on and are trying to settle it away from a tribunal as they are sh*tting themselves of the outcome....

[quote user="norfolkchance1"]I think they should do something they used to do in cricket and have pitch inspectors to determine the quality of pitches and punish clubs where necessary as too many pitches in the English game are substandard. This is not aimed solely at Colchester although for a new ground to have a pitch in that state is unacceptable IMO. Wigan are another case in the premier league, it is wrong that clubs are allowing rugby teams to play on pitches the studs are far longer and therefore with all the scrums and mauls etc the pitches are always going to be the worse for wear.[/quote]   Er why??? Games were played on alot worse years ago....

[quote user="norfolkchance1"]How many of their last 10 games should have been called off? It must have been wetter than when we played there which would take some doing.[/quote] The game against you shouldn''t have gone ahead as thats what damaged the pitch in the first place. The pitch was a bit better on Saturday but was in a bit of a state after and we have had alot of rain since then and with such a sh*t drainage system it didn''t recover...

Tinpot small club.....

[quote user="batesout MOT"][quote user="Barclay hero"] [quote user="marvin the martian"]Elland road is a right dump ![/quote] FFS cant you be serious for once - the man was asking a decent question [/quote] I take that comment as positive. There''s nothing worse than these soulless ikea stadia, planted in the middle of an industrial estate, eg Colchester. Oldham will be ok when they build the 4th stand.[/quote] Have to agree with you regards to our ground. For years we were trying to get away from Layer road but now we have most would prefer to go back. Like you say they build these grounds on the outskirts of town,they have no atmosphere at all and all look the same..They just find a bit of ground,stick four stands up and thats it,they can''t even be bothered to sort the car park out. People have been pushing for making the concourses under the stands better but apparantly because its a community stadium we can''t do it so it will have to stay as breeze blocks and wires on show. Gone are the days of standing on a freezing terrace and actually being able to sing and enjoy the game,we just have to sit there and if we stand up we get kicked out.

[quote user="batesout MOT"][quote user="Essex_Canary"][quote user="batesout MOT"] Given your lack of a clue about any sort of away following. I''d wager you personally have been away 5 times all season, if that. Walsall: 1200 Norwich fans bothered. Leeds had over 4000 and outnumbered the home fans. [/quote] Erm we sold out all the tickets Walsall gave us, then the game was postponed 40 minutes before kickoff, rearranged twice more and postponed before at the fourth attempt we went there on a Tuesday night, with less than a weeks notice of when the fixture was going ahead - in the circumstances thats pretty decent support. How about Col U? You took 3,200 - whereas by the looks of their home attendances since we played them we had nearly 6,000 in their ground ;) [/quote] You actually took 1900 to Colchester. Do any of you people know what an actual crowd looks like? So we took 50% more fans than you to a game 140 miles further away. Of course colchester''s part timers will come out for the big match against their local rivals.   Stockport: 1300 fans again, leeds took 4500.   [/quote] Norwich would have sold out the game with their OWN fans if they had been given the tickets.....

[quote user="canarycol"][quote user="cufcone"][quote user="EssexWhite"][quote user="cufcone"] [quote user="CallsignViper"]Leeds. They don''t belong down in this league. I want Southampton back up as soon as possible as well. I know it''s old thinking and maybe a bit sentimental but I hate to see clubs like us down in the lower leagues of English football. Colchester can stay at their level thanks.[/quote] Clubs like Leeds and Southampton are playing in this division because thats where they DESERVE to be....History has noting to do with it,you are only as good as the league you are playing in...... [/quote] 2 completely different arguments. we do deserve to be here for the financial implosion. our club doesn''t belong here though, and tbf neither does norwich. you on the other hand!! [/quote] Yes we are a small club with a small fan base but thats not the point you got relegated because you finished in the BOTTOM THREE of the championship. But your arguement is typical of what you expect from a arrogant Leeds fan. YOU BELONG HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE A THIRD DIVISION SIDE END OF....... [/quote] Your not  really  in a  position to say anything really  are  you ? which  division are  you in ?  can you  remind everyone please ? [/quote] Whats that got to do with it? I''m just pointing out that fans of other so called big clubs who end up in this division seem to accept where they are  but Leeds fans don''t.

[quote user="EssexWhite"][quote user="cufcone"] [quote user="CallsignViper"]Leeds. They don''t belong down in this league. I want Southampton back up as soon as possible as well. I know it''s old thinking and maybe a bit sentimental but I hate to see clubs like us down in the lower leagues of English football. Colchester can stay at their level thanks.[/quote] Clubs like Leeds and Southampton are playing in this division because thats where they DESERVE to be....History has noting to do with it,you are only as good as the league you are playing in...... [/quote] 2 completely different arguments. we do deserve to be here for the financial implosion. our club doesn''t belong here though, and tbf neither does norwich. you on the other hand!! [/quote] Yes we are a small club with a small fan base but thats not the point you got relegated because you finished in the BOTTOM THREE of the championship. But your arguement is typical of what you expect from a arrogant Leeds fan. YOU BELONG HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE A THIRD DIVISION SIDE END OF.......

[quote user="CallsignViper"]Leeds. They don''t belong down in this league. I want Southampton back up as soon as possible as well. I know it''s old thinking and maybe a bit sentimental but I hate to see clubs like us down in the lower leagues of English football. Colchester can stay at their level thanks.[/quote] Clubs like Leeds and Southampton are playing in this division because thats where they DESERVE to be....History has noting to do with it,you are only as good as the league you are playing in......

Can we come to the party? Even if we don''t go up with you Ipswich being relegated will still make it a great season....Can''t wait to see Keane standing on the touchline when the final whistle goes on the last day and they go down,i would love it,absolutely LOVE it to see them go down......

Who was the numpty Leeds fan on here the other day saying they had three EASY home games coming up?I I bet he has now gone into hiding.....

In my opinion everything in football is wrong at the moment and its all because of money. How can it be right that small clubs in league one and two are in danger of going out of business because they owe a couple of hundred grand and you get top players in the premiership nearly being paid that a week. I think since the indrouction of the champions league things have got alot worse as that is where the money is now and it is just making the so called big four stronger and f**k everyone else. Its a sad situation when the biggest battle in any competition is the one for 5th place but thats how it is now with the premiership and gone are the days when a team can do a "Norwich" and battle for the championship up till the last weeks of the season.

Another Colchester thread, Some of you must really love us to keep going on about us.........

[quote user="Matt Juler"]Just for those who don''t understand my logic... Colchester seem to view us as their biggest rivals in the league.  Just imagine if this was Norwich and Ipswich, and that Norwich had run a story about how great our home form was, but it''s not quite as good as that of our true local rivals Ipswich.  To me it would seem that my own club was rubbing it in, saying "hey look, we''re good, but not as good as Ipswich".  Guessing from the replies it''s just me, but I can''t imagine anyone high up at Norwich being happy with a story on our website claiming we''re great, but not as good as our local rivals.[/quote] WTF? All it is saying is how good our home form,its got nothing to do with Norwich. Some of you really are so far up your own ars*s it is unreal...It makes me laugh how some of you keep saying you don''t care about our little tinpot club but every day there is a new thread on here about us....

[quote user="Matt Juler"]http://www.cu-fc.com/page/News/0,,10424~1960101,00.html[/quote] What are you on about? Oh no it mentions Norwich so it must be removed

[quote user="morty"][quote user="cufcone"]From a neutrals point of view i would say Norwich are the strongest team in the division. Yes Leeds will go top if they win thier games in hand but they have got to win them and they ain''t exactly playing well. The difference is (apart from saturday) Norwich are winning games when they are not playing well where Leeds are not doing that and thats what wins teams league titles.... Also in my opinion if Norwich had poached our manager a couple of months earlier then they would be walking the league as Lambert would have had time to bring in players he wanted...[/quote] "Legitimately acquired." [/quote] Would have done us both a favour if had of joined you earlier,Lambert could have got players in he wanted which would have made you stronger and we would have had time to get a manager in who also could have got his own players in. Damn you should have POACHED him earlier

From a neutrals point of view i would say Norwich are the strongest team in the division. Yes Leeds will go top if they win thier games in hand but they have got to win them and they ain''t exactly playing well. The difference is (apart from saturday) Norwich are winning games when they are not playing well where Leeds are not doing that and thats what wins teams league titles.... Also in my opinion if Norwich had poached our manager a couple of months earlier then they would be walking the league as Lambert would have had time to bring in players he wanted...

[quote user="Hooleyfan"]Just back to East Herts...I get back from Carra quicker than this. Damn away supporter system at Millwall. Still I suppose it is the best for everyone but I think Millwall FC could do more about their fans. Its only an intimidating place because Stewards and police to F ALL about the behaviour of those that throw things onto the pitch, race down to the front and lean over the pitchside barrier trying to get in players faces, constantly making onanism (look it up!) gestures at players and visiting supporters, despite half of them not being old enough to practice the art themselves. I suppose after the six points we picked up without Holty this was on the cards and best forgotten. I hope that Lambert says very little about this performance and judges it by next week''s selection in which i would like to see Hughes replace Corey Smith (didn''t have a clue today!) and Zak Whitbread come in for Nelson. I think that Macnamee should get the chance from the bench again because his crosses were quality and Holty would have banged them in.[/quote] The gobby little sh*ts are just living on the history of Millwall back in the 80''s... Last year at Colchester they were running about shouting "We are Millwall,nobody likes us. We are gonna kick your f**king heads in" and no word of a lie they were no older that 14.... They all think they are hard just because they support Millwall when all you can do really is laugh at them

[quote user="morty"]We''ll never play you again. [;)] [/quote] I''d be carefull saying that after last time you sung it.......

[quote user="colufan"]You have the evidence of a couple of statements that have rubbed Norwich fans up the wrong way and a refusal to roll over and play dead. We have the evidence of everything he has done for our club since he arrived. I''m happier with our mountain rather than your molehill. You keep telling us to get over it, it''s probably about time a few of you guys did.[/quote] Robbie is a god.... Some Nowich fans will never get over it mate. They don''t like him because he wouldn''t bend over backwards for them and give big old "we once won in the olympic stadium in Munich" Norwich more tickets.......

[quote user="Graham Humphrey"][quote user="cufcone"]Laugh all you like about our attendances Boyo'' but they are about right for THIRD division football which the  massive "we once won in Munich" Norwich city now play in. I did see on Teletext what division you now play in but please tell me as it will be funnier coming from you....[/quote] Hang on - you still use Teletext? [;)] [/quote] I don''t but Boyo'' does as he said in his earlier post....

[quote user="morty"]Boring.........[S][/quote] Just like the sad f**kers that keep going on about our attendances.....

Laugh all you like about our attendances Boyo'' but they are about right for THIRD division football which the  massive "we once won in Munich" Norwich city now play in. I did see on Teletext what division you now play in but please tell me as it will be funnier coming from you....