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  1. marinersawan

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    Biggest Derby attendance? 40000 at Carrow Road against Ipswich in the FA Cup fourth round 1962, I think. We drew. We won away (>10000 less at their place despite the fact that they were heading to be Division 1 champions) . Anyone at either? Was there any sense of local rivalry back then?
  2. marinersawan


    Bill re Pompey 1975 - pleasant stroll and amble round the pitch? I was aged 10 with my Dad in a paddock terrace in front of a side stand where Norwich outnumbered Pompey, but a mate of mine had rather more alarming stories. Was it really so comfortable a day out?
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    That would be fantastic Ricardo. And thanks Nutty for the link. I would love to hear how it was at those games. The clips of the 58-59 games don't suggest the ground was rammed - although I guess the prime spots would have been pretty tight. I remember even in the seventies turning up with my Dad an hour and a quarter before kickoff for a prime spot in the River End terrace. West Ham away in the FA Cup in 1989 was my most packed terrace - not helped by inflatables boosting the crowd! The exit under the stand afterwards was a bit cramped as well!
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    Thanks Ricardo for your reply to my message on another thread. I’m sure I’m not the only one who would like to hear more of times past. My first game was Portsmouth away in 1975, with my late father who had tales of 58-59, and I had grandparents who remembered “give it to Varco”, but as a young lad I didn’t ask the questions I should have. I’ve got in front of me a copy of “On The Ball City” by Ted Bell from 1972. Some interesting things in it, but some not covered. Why were the 58-59 cup game attendances capped all-ticket at 38000, when we had 43129 for Pompey in 1950? The 58-59 cup run paid for the roof on the South Stand - but in photos it looks like only over 2/3 of it, and no South Stand Corner - when did those changes happen? Sunderland at home in the cup 5th round 1961 in front of 42000 - must have been some occasion but I’ve never heard mention of it. I’ve got lots more questions but some memories of those days would be fascinating.
  5. marinersawan

    City and the binners

    The closest it came after they turned professional and entered the third division south was 1956/57, with them top and us bottom. They were promoted to league 2 and we had to apply for re-election. One might feel that by rights we should have been relegated, and the two divisions gap would have happened. But - rules are rules. As I have mentioned before, quite how Ipswich got elected into the third division south after being only third in the southern league in 1938 (displacing Gillingham, and ahead of Guildford (5 points clear) and Plymouth Argyle II (ok presumably a reserve team - but our team II came 5th that year) is a bit of a mystery, possibly explained by the Cobbold family's legendary hospitality. So I'm not losing much sleep over accepting the rules back then. I was always aggrieved as a young lad that Arsenal got a dodgy promotion to the top division ahead of Spurs, Barnsley, Wolves and Birmingham after finishing sixth in 1914-15 (although apparently they were actually fifth and someone got their sums wrong) and have never been out of the top flight since. But the very presence of the Binscum in the Football League is an offence against natural justice. 1956-57 was a tumultuous season for us - any memories from the more senior members of the board?
  6. So when did it go from peaceable mingling on the terraces to lines of police, to fences? I know some of ours hopped on the pitch in 1965 to stop the cheating Bx sanding the goal after Kevin Keelan had slid around in it all the first half, but that’s an understandable response. When did the Derby get nasty off the pitch?
  7. Elasticman - it was segregated when I first went to a derby in about 1977. But the full-height fence wasn’t up in the Barclay, or the cages at the front. I was in the River End with my Dad, and it looked a bit lively down the Barclay. It always seemed that 30-40 fans were nicked each match, 2/3 or 3/4 of them Norwich according to the newspapers, but Ipswich seem to think they were on top off as well as on the pitch. Any comments?
  8. Nigel - doesn’t look as packed as I would expext for nearly 40k - but I suppose another 4k got in for the Leicester cup game in 1963. Any memories from anyone of that?
  9. Alcock with the winner on 88 minutes - must have been enjoyable!
  10. That’s an account of the cup run I’ve never seen before - many thanks. We played Ipswich in the FA cup in 1962 (before I was born) - drew at home and won away. Monster crowd of over 39800 at Carrow Road - anyone remember what it was like? Must be in our top ten attendances, surely?
  11. It’s happened before, I think - but we swapped divisions (85-86). I don’t think we’ve ever been two divisions apart since they scammed their way into 3rd division south ( finishing third in the Southern League in 1937, with the Cobbold family schmoozing the votes needed for election). However we were pretty close on one occasion when they won the 3rd division south and we were bottom, applying for re-election. Any memories of those days, and the turn-around for the 58-59 cup run?
  12. marinersawan


    Anyone still got Keelan''s phone number?