WestMidlandCanary

If we do go down, we''ll definitely be renewing our away season tickets....

[quote user="K Lo"]I hate Coventry with a passion and here are my very valid reasons: 1 - It''s a dump. I lived there for 4 years and it''s a truly painful place to be. Left to go & live in Norwich. 2 - The club, for years, just would not get relegated, even though they were crap for a good 10 years before eventually going under. 3 - Cov. hasn''t really got much of an identity becuase it plays 2nd fiddle to Birmingham. 4 - All Coventrians(?) go on about their cathedral and all that, being the 3rd tallest spire in England. Norwich is 2nd (behind Salisbury). 5 - The awful buidings & architecture aren''t to be blamed on the Luftwaffe, Cov. City Council decided to pull most of the nice old streets down in the ''50s & ''60s to modernised with that loevly concrete stuff that adorns the place now. [/quote] 1. And you still miss us really KL.... drop me a line let me know how you are. 5. Unfortunately they missed the crappy bits and got the choice bits like the cathedral. A bit like they missed Selhurst Park really! As it is, I''m seriously considering going on Tuesday just to give a bit of vocal support. Can''t say what the sky blues will make of one man singing "on the ball..."

Sorry Captain, I''m with canaryfan on this. Lee was involved from minute one and kept that involvement throughout.

BCFC have always struggled for fans. A Villa fan friend of mine has a theory that there is a great number of casual fans in Birmingham who go to whichever club is fashionable or in the Prem. Hence Villa''s impressive gates at present have been boosted by the exodus from St Andrews. It did make me laugh yesterday when the stadium announcer asked them to really get behind the team and commented on how much noise they''d made, considering it was the schoolkids to our right doing the most effort! On top of that, I noticed on Sky the other week when they went to Barnsley for a Tuesday game, they only took a couple of hundred.

I thought he ran his backside off for us all game. Made a right nuisance of himself and yes he did tire dramatically with a few minutes to go, but he was still back in our box defending with the rest at the end. I think Gunny was right to leave him on though when he went down in front of the bench, as we might have lost shape in those few minutes and maybe conceded. All in all, I was pretty pleased with his performance and I''d happily have him here next season if he was available.

[quote user="cityangel"] Welcome Alan Lee[:)] Ladies - quite pleasing on the eye dont you think? [:)] [/quote] From a footballing point of view, I''m quite pleased to have him in our side. Fom a "ahem" eye candy point of view, Mrs WMC is equally of the same opinion as CA

Looks like we might have some to identify with at last given last night''s showing. Fingers crossed for Saturday

Unlike a lot of posters on here, I haven''t been a lifelong City fan. I had no allegiance to any football team before coming to work in Norfolk between 97 and 99 and watched them pretty much every home game in that period before returning to the midlands. Consequently I can''t comment on the City teams of old but I do know that some of the players I''ve seen between the late nineties and now would be stunned at what our team has become. Even the sides playing in front of 13,000 had their own heroes, despite them maybe leaving under a cloud later. It''s obvious now that the majority of this side bear no loyalty to the club whatsoever and will be off to either their home club or another side as soon as we are confirmed as down - whether they are good enough or not is irrelevant: in theirs and their agents minds, they believe they have what it takes to play Championship football and I would strongly beg to differ. I think this trend started for the most part on relegation from the Prem in 05, where players that would more than likely have seen us straight back up either decided to go or were sold off. Fulham, as bad as it was, would maybe have been largely forgiven if the side had stayed together and done the business for us. Roeder was right in that we would identify with a new breed of heroes following Huck''s exit but - unfortunately - we simply don''t have any. The likes of (to my mind) Iwan, Malky, Edworthy, McVeigh, Hucks, Svensson who on their day simply didn''t know when to give up, no longer exist in the club. Only Doc really does show that kind of attitude but I fear even he may decide to go elsewhere. Now is as good a time as any to play anything different to what we have - kids, whatever - because I''d rather go down with a side playing with no fear than see 9 more Fulham-esque performances before the end of the season. The time for new heroes is now. OTBC

[quote user="gazzathegreat"]Bobert, we all know you support the board, and no doubt you and the majority of the fans that do will decry anything us naughty anti Doncaster mob dream up. Fine, have your view, and no one is forcing you to sign Ben''s petition. Whatever our feelings and opinions on Mr Doncaster''s failings, it''s not to do with the players. And don''t feel too sorry for them, most of them will jump ship in the summer anyway. As for no one wanting the job. Depends on terms and conditions doesn''t it. IF Delia and Michael make the club look an attractive proposition then someone is more likely to come in. Bobert the fans have been divided for years. Question really is is this one? What would it take to unite us all again. It sure as hell isn''t keeping along the Doncaster route to the Third Division.[/quote] Absolutely right Gazza. Everyone''s entitled to their opinion but I think for a lot of people these past few days have seen the camel''s back now broken. I know you lot suffer over there with the binners comments but it''s not much better over here with Cov and Wolves fans. Consequently I signed it today. 

Frankly I think that if one goes, they should all go. This simply isn''t working and I have no faith it will next year either.

Because GP, this is the Carrow Road that will be in Div 1 next season at this rate. People are reacting to the situation as they feel necessary. It''s tough times and tough things need to be said.

I wonder what it would cost to get a manager in for the last ten games - compared to the cost of relegation? Look at Leicester two seasons ago. Appointed Worthy with the brief of keeping them up, which he did, and then they let him go and consequently went down last year. Point being, he''d done it before with us after Hamilton and again at LCFC. I''m not saying he''s the man for the role permanently but we simply must make the N.I board some kind of financial offer to acquire him for 10 games. We have virtually no chance under any of this current management team, not just Gunny - none of them have current management skills in this league and for that reason, the appointments were flawed from day one. I don''t blame them and won''t feel any ill against them but it simply hasn''t worked and we''re staring very squarely down the barrels of League 1. When faced with that kind of outcome, what have we got to lose by appointing someone who can actually do the job?

Why can''t you see them not being ZLF? At the end of the day, they are here to advise Gunny and it''s evident that''s not happening. I don''t think the stop gap management team is working and probably will continue to stutter until the end of the season. At which point, depending on where we are, what happens? If we go down, half the playing staff will depart and my honest thought is that this management team should go too. The board have screwed up big time by hoping that this would work and we need a management team that will get us back up at the first opportunity - sadly I don''t think this one is it.

Can''t argue with the sentiment

Yes, We CAN do it. Whether we WILL is a different matter. However, when you think about us averaging 1.03 points per game, applying that to our current total gives us 45 points and I don''t think that will be sufficient. Cureton being quoted today that the players have had a reality check with 13 games left is quite worrying when we saw the writing on the wall 13 games in. I really, really do hope we can average 2 points per game to hopefully make us safe before Ipswich but I''m not convinced if I''m honest.

[quote user="fat lip"] I think its unfair that a club can charge more for away fans than their away fans are charged in the returning fixture. Blackpool and Chelsea (in prem season) are a great example. In my opinion there should be a league rule where the 2 clubs agree before the start of the season what they will charge for away fansd and it will be the same in both fixtures. So then if Chelsea charge us 40 - 50 quid a ticket to sit in their average atmosphere lacking stadium, we can at least charge their away fans the same and make more money for our club. Swindon was always my worst away trip, you either got soaked or the sun in your eyes. [/quote]   Completely agree Fat Lip. As an ex away season ticket holder (have had to miss a lot of this season for various reasons) it always struck me that the clubs should declare to the league what their away fan ticket prices were. When we were in the Prem, I was astounded that we paid more to go to Palace than Arsenal (at Highbury) and yet charged Palace fans £10 less than we paid at their dump of a ground. An especially blatant piece of ticket pricing is Birminghams ability to put prices up by £20 when Villa visit. The club (BCFC in this case) wins two ways then, either by making cash on those desperate to follow their team, or by reducing the away support by pricing them out of it.

The trouble is that JC is missing sitters, not difficult chances, but sitters. Now if we were still under Roeder then I''d agree that lack of confidence and generally feeling down could easily be alluded to for missing easy scoring opportunities, but even you Wiz must agree that under this new, much happier regime (very much alluded to in JC''s recent interviews), to miss this level of goal chance is quite puzzling. And with regard to the Keogh comment in an earlier post, the Wolves fans waste no time on getting on his back at Molineux whenever they get the chance.

[quote user="pennywise "]yes the camera angle was terrible for the portsmouth match but!!!!   at least they don`t just automatically start with the big teams . coventry and torquay was quite high up the pecking order, bbc would have devoted the 1st half hr to man u v spurs  even though it was only on live 3 hrs earlier...i`m starting to slowly warm to itvs coverage [:D][/quote] But if the BBC had been doing it, we would probably have seen either Kettering v Fulham and Torquay v Coventry live as we were against Tamworth a couple of years back. ITV have no idea what the FA cup is all about - likewise Setanta or we wouldn''t have had Spurs v Man Utd and the Liverpool derby twice in two weeks.  

[quote user="River End Rita"][quote user="WestMidlandCanary"][quote user="River End Rita"][quote user="porkyp"] River End Rita wrote the following post at 03/01/2009 1:13 PM: I think someone is stirring it a bit, things are not really that bad though we were rubbish last match we played.  Does the person who wrote this hate Roeder?  YOU ARE HAVING A LAUGH HERE RITA......Things not really that bad.....where have you been!! 26 points from 26 matches is relegation fodder without a doubt. We''ve been rubbish in all but about 5 games this season! [/quote] LOL I know things are not great but we are not in the bottom 3 at the moment so how can it be relegation form.  It annoys me that we cannot play like we did against Wolves or the scum every week.   [/quote] Rita, Even if we win every single game left at home - which given our form is extremely unlikely - we''ll still only have 56 points which may or may not be enough to keep us up. Away form is a joke so we may as well write that off now. Do you not see that as relegation form? How many of those 10 home games do you really expect to win? [/quote]   Yeah but why do you think the clubs below us will get better? [/quote]   You still think that now Rita?  

In fact if you took our form as it is now, having won 7 and drawn 5 of the 26 played so far (I know, scary isn''t it?), if we won the same amount of points from six less games, we''d finish on 52 points. And that will more than likely be enough to see us in League 1 next year. We need change and we need it now.

Can we have Malky instead please?

[quote user="River End Rita"][quote user="porkyp"] River End Rita wrote the following post at 03/01/2009 1:13 PM: I think someone is stirring it a bit, things are not really that bad though we were rubbish last match we played.  Does the person who wrote this hate Roeder?  YOU ARE HAVING A LAUGH HERE RITA......Things not really that bad.....where have you been!! 26 points from 26 matches is relegation fodder without a doubt. We''ve been rubbish in all but about 5 games this season! [/quote] LOL I know things are not great but we are not in the bottom 3 at the moment so how can it be relegation form.  It annoys me that we cannot play like we did against Wolves or the scum every week.   [/quote] Rita, Even if we win every single game left at home - which given our form is extremely unlikely - we''ll still only have 56 points which may or may not be enough to keep us up. Away form is a joke so we may as well write that off now. Do you not see that as relegation form? How many of those 10 home games do you really expect to win?

You sure Mutley? BBC shows Heidar Helguson signing but not Herman Haraidason, as does Sky. They''ve also just signed Wayne Routledge

I''d agree with that GP except that we''re not a Prem team, we''re a poor Championship team who will, without investment of money or confidence into the players, soon become a League 1 team. And from that logic we have no hope of attracting players of that quality, regardless of Roeders reputation elsewhere. The fact is that we have players who could have done the job -replaced in the main by poor loan signings- out on loan themselves and those who are here, for the most part couldn''t hit a cow''s backside with a banjo and now the one player who could have made the difference doesn''t even make the grade for a permanent purchase; if the recently quoted sums of £300k are to be believed, that is a tragedy. Of course it could be that it was much more than that but the fact still remains that without a dedicated goalscorer we will be relegated in the summer and I would argue that the loss of income will be considerably more than the transfer fee involved. The subject of this post is spot on.    

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