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At what point does Hughton become "good enough" for people to stop acting like spoilt children?Stay up?Go down but attack all the time?Win the league?Win a cup?

If you can''t see why Redmond was taken off then quite frankly you don''t deserve the right to have an opinion.His end product - supplying the players in positions to score was AWFUL, we had to try and improve, so Wes came on instead.Clear now?  Or was the fact he is fast enough for you to be impressed?[quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"]Hughton''s quore from the link....."It’s important that you’re penetrating. The ideal way to do this is to get the ball wide, either to deliver a cross or to keep their full-backs pinned back," rather begs the question as to why the hell he substituted Redmond on Saturday?!?!? [/quote]

Yes he was.  Talking to someone else who went, they claimed he was waving them back.  The hate specs are unremovable. [quote user="swindoncanary"]Last half hour of Saturdays match Hughton was always waving at the players to get forward. [/quote]

Awful.  Going for the draw against a club he could beat.  Where''s the two up front?  Where''s the attacking football?Get him out now!Sadly the point being made will be lost on the people its aimed at.

Not a chance.  People want him out to satisfy their ridiculous opinions of our potential.[quote user="birchfest"]If we win against Bury will we stop getting these rediculous suggestions to get rid of our manager after 2 games?[/quote]

Biased much?It is bloody obvious that Pilkington is injury prone and struggles to be effective for 90 minutes.  Snodgrass is coming back from injury, Olsson is not fit and Redmond is just to raw to rely on.So why has he lost the plot?The only strange thing is the way our fans are trying to undermine the club all the time.[quote user="Dr. Ink"]Strange one this? Can''t see him being a starter, and with Snods, Pilks, Redmond and Olssen we are already well covered out wide despite Bennetts injury. Is Hughton losing the plot?[/quote]

*won one

CUSDPIt''s more to do with the fact they one one of their last ten last season, making it one win in 12 for them nowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Swansea_City_A.F.C._season Amazing how reality and perception are different.  Laudrup is no bloody worse then Hughton, yet some city fans would dump Hughton for him in a heartbeat.

I wonder if people will want him when Cardiff lose 5 on the trot, which they will at some stage.

More pantwetters.  Not everyone can win every fecking game!

How did I guess someone whould have started a thread saying this.FFS calm down, we have a good draw and a bad loss so far.  Lets see how the next five go before wetting ourselves?

The problem is further back.  Hopefully Fer will start in the holding two as other attacking players come back.  He can pass and burst forward, linking up better than Tettey, Johnson or the awful awful Howsoon can.

Roberto Di Matteo.

Johnson and Fer are the obvious two to play in the holding positions as Fer can still get forward.The problem is the link between the holding two and the attacking three and the lone striker, it breaks down all the time.Tettey and Howson, no matter where they play are never, ever good enough except for brief spells. They must be on the bench.Watching MOTD, every single team played the same formation as us yesterday, 4-2-3-1, but they did not look isolated in attack, because they linked better.I personally think Elmander in the hole with Snodgrass and Pilkington is our best option.  Redmond is raw talent, but he squanders more than he creates. Elmander also gives us some height to support the Wolf.RuddyWhittakerBassontTurnerOlssonJohnsonFerSnodgrassElmanderPilkingtonWolf One more point is that our preparation and integration has been ruined by lots of key injuries.  Bassong, Turner, Pilkington, Snodgrass, Hooper, Bennett so far.  Add to that the fact half a dozen are fresh faces, and you still have to give the benefit of the doubt for now.Give it ten games.

Hull had nothing to lose, got the gift of a penalty from nothing and then went down to ten men and had a siege mentality, hitting us on the break a bit towards the end.Having said that, we could have done more with the ball, and that is the concern.  Too much sideways passing.

He brought on Snodgrass at half time.  He is an attacking player you idiot.[quote user="alartz"]Chris houghton is the worst manager in the premier league. Over an hour against a poor hull team with 10 men! Who never looked liked scoring. An out and out striker on the bench ( becchio) 10 men for the best part of an hour. Never even think about bringing an attacking player until elmander after 70 mins. Useless management needs to change. Crap performance can''t lose to crap like that[/quote]

How can we do that when Hooper is not fit?And it doesnt matter if you play 50 up front if there is n supply.  This two up front obsession is built on pure ignorance.[quote user="EGGY a Gibraltar Canary"]Still think we should play 2 up front, RVW and Hooper[/quote]

Panic panic panic! 

PRAT

I bet you are in your 40''s or later.  More up front does not = more goals FFS.What matters is getting the ball to the man who is and getting the attacking three behind up in support.If we had 4 up front today they would not be getting the ball. [quote user="iron_stan"]fuck this one up front shit im fucking sick of it. absolute shit. 8 million worth of striker who cant get a sniff of itwe have no width, play redmond on the right and let him beat his man and cross the fucking ball, he cuts inside everytime its fucking predictable as hell[/quote]

There is no debate.  The strongest back four by a mile is Whittaker, Turner, Bassong, Olsson.[quote user="Vazzza"]I''m not sure about Martin playing in front of Bassong and Turner. Its one thing adapting his game from right back to centre back, but now you are asking another role of him. If that formation were to be played, Bassong should play there. I believe he''s played defensive midfield for a few teams anyway?!Personally though, I''d just drop Turner and play the normal back line with Martin and Bass as the 2 CB''s. I''m a fan of Turner and think he has really turned things around since his couple of mistakes when first joining, but Bass has to be 1st name on the teamsheet for CB, and I just can''t drop Martin. Hes blocking and last ditch defending is amazing, and just not utalised enough at right back. So for me: - Whittaker - Russ - Bass - Olsson/Garrido <-- thats another whole debate right there!! [/quote]

"Is there any mileage in playing Olsson and Whittaker in the full-back positions, but pushed up, and encouraged to regularly join the attack."The role you are struggling with is "wing backs".In a word no.

That games has just justified why we got rid of him.  Not good enough anymore.

6 months chasing him, out for 6 months now, looking at that injury.

WTF is it with Norwich fans and 442?  Is it becauase its a social backwater?[quote user="grefstad"]Hope to see us play 4-4-2 in the 2nd half, Hoop and vW[/quote]