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[quote user="Wiz"]Didn''t we sign Jackson when the squad had already travelled to Germany?........he flew out later I recall.[/quote]Think youre right WizMost of the donkey work can be done by email, Skype, Instant Messenger and other similar communication.  Most players (and their agents) will have tablets, Smartphones etc to check things like contracts.  The only issue is that Hughton wont be alongside the player for the Press Conference - although there is no reason why someone cant jump on an plane fairly quickly for that

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]I would hope that Delia would correctly veto any such initiative. Promptly.   If not, one suspects that the atmosphere could become more poisonous than it did during either the Chase Out or Worthy Out episodes in our history.   OTBC       [/quote]Great post Bly

Tom.  Youre fixated with Peppercorn rent.  Youre forgetting that the Council will be looking to use this (if your model is followed) as a way of making money.  Its likely to cost a hell of a lot

Jas, stop baiting Wiz.  Its not good to mock the afflicted [:)]My bet for the 1st one to go will be Brian McDermott at Reading, followed by Mark Hughes

OK.  This is how I see it1) Whilst its unclear at this stage how the exact nature of it will happen, the club have expressed a plan which involves growing the club.  In its current guise, Carrow Road is limited to the amount of revenue it can generate - yes there is the possibility through the hike in ticket prices but this is proportionally small.  TV revenue is comparatively massive, but there is no guarantee this will last forever - the words ITV digital will be all to familiar for many.  The alternatives are to move or to expand the current ground2) Expanding the ground is probably the best way forward - it saves all the upheaval of moving the entire club to another location (telephone lines, TV and media communications, signage etc) and we own the ground - so expanding something you already own increases the value of your asset (a bit like Purple adding another wing to his mansion)3) If we move, where do we move to?  Out of city close to the A47 is the best bet infrastructure wise (indeed the best option is probably somewhere like Postwick - close to the city, close to the A47 and you could possibly build a station on the Yarmouth line)4) How do we fund it?  Loans probably the obvious way,  but funding from local authority or private companies also could workNow swinging it rounda) If we have a bigger capacity would we fill the ground?  In the Premier League its probably less of a problem.  Even if we dont sell out home areas, many away sides could bring more fans.  But the odds are we will be relegated at some point.  In which case we face a big ground only half filled.  For a short time you can get round that by giving tickets to charities, kids for a quid.  But more casual tickets mean (potentially) less need for a season ticket.  I think the odds are that we''re potentially damned if we expand and it doesnt work - but we will definitely will be damned if we dont expand revenues to the max.  So its either grow the ground or raise ST and casual prices significantly - which may well drive fans away.  So expansion is the best option IMOb) I think its better to own your asset - its solid business practice.  Tom seems to have got this idea of a "Peppercorn Rent".  Dont forget Swansea were a lower league side when their ground was being built (possibly even League 1) and the local council wanted to help.  We''re in the land of milk and honey and allegedly raking it in.  So any owner will look at us with pound signs in their eyes and charge a market rent.  Do we really want to divert funds from the playing budget to that?c) Teaching space is worth more than office space?  How did you work that one?  If that was the case most of the city centre companies (especially Aviva) would be looking to let space to the UEA and City Colleged) Whilst partnership is not a bad idea and yes renting stand space works (think of the Housing Association in the Jarrold) you have to have companies that WANT to work with the football club.  It has to benefit both parties.  Would we attract decent Prem players if they were having to train alongside Wymondham Under 10s at Colney?  Or UEA "B"?  Because the UEA would likely want to be involved from their sports side of things only - theres better locations and better potential set ups than in the stand of a football club.  Likewise the local councils, what happens if the new man in charge of negotiating a new lease happens to be an Ipswich fan - they do exist on this side of the borderOverall I think its going to be private finance lending us the money.  Barclays have strong connections with the county.  Maybe they could do us a good interest rate [:)]

[quote user="Wiz"][quote user="City1st"] This from the man who believed the South Stand was the Main Stand some while back - after regaling us with his time spent visiting Carrow Road some years back   all of which turned out to be fabrication, so i shall leave others to judge the worth of his post .... or his support of our club     [/quote]   You''re confused........as per usual.   I was talking about theWensum part of that stand, corner infil area I believe. [/quote]Which is nowhere near the South StandI dont know whats happened to you Wiz - unless the loss of our previous manager has knocked you back so far.  Even then if you have supported our club as long as you claim, you would know its been a fairly common occurrence over the years.  We find, we nurture, we grow, other clubs benefit.  Always have done, regardless of who is at the helm.  Its only in the last few years we have started putting our foot down over stuffYoure rapidly becoming an object of ridicule - which I know has happened on and off with talk of Hexes and magic underpants etc - but you used to get at least some respect as a major poster on here.  That respect is now rapidly going.  I really hope you get your old mojo back before the whole board turns against you

Ive got young kids.  So Nina and her Neurons do it for me every time....

I found it funny - but then I still find Knock Knock jokes funny.  I blame my parents....

People obviously forget Reading Away (think it was Reading) in Roeders time where we played 7 midfielders with Darrel Russel up front on his own....

[quote user="Number 9"]Can Joanna Gray please provide more info concerning the ''OP'' getting badgered. I do like a good badgering...[/quote]   Although a lot of people seem quite "sett" against it....

[quote user="Kolin Kob"][quote user="tom cavendish"] Butland is only 19 and has never even played for Brum. There is no chance at all that he would  be considered as a replacement for Ruddy.  I think the story is complete rubbish. [/quote] Agreed. This is 2+2=55 stuff by the press. Clearly journalists who haven''t done their research trying to make a name for themselves by being able to claim a scoop by chance. I would listen to what people say on this messageboard more than what journalists say at this time of the year to be honest. [/quote] To be fair its no different to Lambert signing Holt / Ruddy / any other Norwich players.  Journalists seem to decide that because a manager has signed a player (or even just managed a player) before he''ll want to do so again.  To be fair Lambert did sometimes work like this - and most managers like to work with people they know - but I think its a case of if you repeat the story enough times one will eventually come true - and then you can claim you had an exclusive scoop....

[quote user="Shaker Maker"]Anybody else going? [/quote] No

How have we donated 4 points to Wigan NM? They have had 2 points from the 2 games - same as us. The point at the DW was certainly deserved, the point yesterday less so, but at least we havent lost to them

Who is the beloved Fuhrer of the Pinkun though Chopsy? I havent a problem with people booing if the performance is bad - and over the years Ive seen some shockers - but yesterday wasnt bad - just not particularly good. In response to some of the earlier posts, where we have come from IS relevant - OK not maybe the League 1 bit but we are a newly promoted side playing an established Prem side. Just because the established Prem side are bottom does NOT give us an automatic right to beat them - lets face it the current league leaders lost AT HOME to a team who were either bottom or near bottom at the time (Blackburn). It happens - there are no properly abysmal sides in this league aside from Wolves and perhaps QP Are Relegated. If we lose heavily at home to the faded yellow (Wolves) then I can understand peoples frustration but not a draw at home to Wigan

I suspect youre right PC - at the end of the day if the opposition score, you have to score 2 to win the game - and its not reasonable to expect that in every game, especially if your forwards are starting to mis-fire at timesIm wondering whether the recent over-reliance on our No 9 to score our goals has led to the purchasing of Ryan Bennett....

[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]great stats NCFCstar...it looks like the job is done and i accept it as so.what interests me is peoples fascination with clean sheets. c lean sheets are worth nothing in football... Goal difference is.. win 1-0 or win 5-4 and its still plus one and 3 points....[/quote]   But they are. By definition they are worth at least a point. Don''t concede and at the worst you draw. I''m not fixated with clean sheets, but they do have their uses. [/quote]thats true, but then in the context of things a 2-1 win is worth exactly the same as 1-0 isnt it?[/quote]Strictly speaking, theyre better.  On occasions where points and goal difference are level, Goals Scored is the next division (in most leagues)Purple - I take your point entirely - but its not necessarily a good thing to draw a lot of games, which is the risk you take when parking the bus and going for the clean sheet as your priority - just ask Liverpool.  And clean sheets can be lost from a sheer moment of brilliance, a mistake, or a bizarre incident.  Its also possible to go the whole season undefeated and still get relegated!  (Any Prem team last year with the record P38 W0 D38 L0 would have been playing in the Championship this season)That said the more clean sheets you keep, the further you generally go in competitions, or higher up the league.....

[quote user="Theres only one Martin Peters"]It''s always unpleasant to lose, but rest assured had we needed to win that game to stay to stay in the PL we would have done. Lambert continually plays the humble/low expectations card and quite rightly so while keeping his real goals/ambition to himself. Don''t be surprised if we finish in 6th place.....................[/quote] Exactly. People have quoted various sums of money for winning the FA Cup and seemed to have thought that this year was ours....dont forget Norwich get an extra HALF A MILLION for each place higher they finish - so 3 million for winning the FA Cup or 5 million difference between 6th and 16th....and theres no guarantees we would beat Chelsea or Birmingham away. Saturday was disappointing, but so was the semi final defeat to 2nd division Sunderland in 92. Me - Im just glad to see us playing top flight football again and probably having our most successful side for nearly 20 years....

Lets just turn the issue around a little bit.  If it had been Joey Barton and he''d used the word "Africans" rather "Welsh" how many people would have been quite so supportive?I do agree that the comment wasnt racist - but it sailed very close to.  I reckon our number 9 will receive a bit of a b0ll0cking from Lambert...

Great OP Purple and very interesting read.  The rest of the thread - like so many nowadays is a bit carcrash - you dont want to read it with the mutual name calling but you cant help yourselfI''ll openly admit - I was very much in the Chase Out camp when it was going on.  The sale of Sutton, the Inter Milan ticket fiasco, Dean Windass - theyre all mistakes that - had these happened on S&Js watch would have been slated by the usual crowd.  Likewise the successes under the current majority shareholders - 3 promotions (including 2 to the Premier League), the "finds" of Holt and Morison, and the appointment of Paul Lambert as manager -  would have been praised to the heavens had they been under Big Bobs reign.But there were good times under Robert Chase''s reign - 5th, 4th and 3rd in the old Division 1, the continued development of the youth policy that led to Bellamy, 2 FA Cup Semi Finals.  Likewise under S&J we lost the old ability to bounce back from adversity (actually this started in Chases time) and eventually crashed into League 1.  Would we have followed the same pattern under different owners - or had the two eras swapped over - or would it have been different. Pure conjecture but as mentioned elsewhere there are plenty of clubs - Sheffield Wednesday, Wimbledon - to name but 2 - who would love to have had our "failure" of one season in the lower reaches of the football league.  I just wonder if - in another 15 years - there will be a new Cluck on this or another board berating the club ownership and harking back to the era of the Stowmarket two

[quote user="spencer 1970"]...as he seems to have signed a lot of players from clubs that we already have bought players from... 1. John Ruddy everton 8. James Vaughan everton 2. Russell Martin peterborough 3. Adam Drury peterborough 5. Steve Morison millwall 6. Zak Whitbread millwall 7. Andrew Crofts brighton 17. Elliott Bennett brighton 23. Marc Tierney colchester 15. David Fox colchester 4. Bradley Johnson leeds... and now... (26?). Jonny Howson leeds Bizarre that they make up 12 out of the 21 of our current batch of signed players ...so who''s next? I''m going for Phillips from Blackpool (to join Wes).[/quote]Really?  Drury a Lambert signing?  Must have missed that one......[:$]

Lol.  In all seriousness it''ll be a young hungry player from Bundesliga B or whatever its called

You could always try getting a hot air balloon ride over the Etihad......

[quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]Just claim your ticket has been lost in the post, the club will just re-print it for you.[/quote] They cant "reprint" it - they get the preprinted tickets from Man C....

With regards to the OP, one has to question why your mum has done that. Are you grounded? In which case (as a responsible parent) I would suggest you accept your punishment rather than disobey On a serious note, its probably best to call the club and explain the situation. You might also need to call Man City but call Norwich first (they may have a record of your seat details). Its getting a bit iffy for mailing you another ticket but they may be able to arrange for you to collect a replacement at the Etihad

I think this is more of a sad indictment that many younger people today just have no concept of putting things in an envelope and posting them, or taking them somewhere else. Email, text messages, E-cards - no wonder the post office is going bust! HRF - appreciate that you may indeed be new to this (I''ll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one) but tbh as youve got more than 300 posts Im surprised you hadnt considered being shot down by others. On reflection you may have been better looking at the club website, or even calling them Ticket availability will depend entirely on which group youre in (and the club will put you in the LOWEST common group for multiple applications - so if youre a ST holder but your GFs a member then you''ll be in Group 4) and how popular the match will be - Man U balloted in Group 3 (in other words 1 & 2 got tickets, 4 & 5 didnt and some of 3 got them, some didnt). Man City balloted in Group 5 and Everton didnt ballot at all I think - if I remember correctly tickets are now on general sale So good luck, enjoy it if you go (I prefer away games to home tbh) and let us know what you think once youve done it