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No thanks!   In my opinion hes one of our best sells ever cause he wasn''t worth anywhere near £1.5M going on his overall performances for us. I still laugh when I think of the reason he went was cause Sunderland activated the relevant get out clause fee!   He only turned up when he felt like it, normally in high profile games, the Chelsea away game in the cup springs to mind!

No thanks!   Quality player but has way to much negative baggage attached to him and I''ve heard hes on £75,000 a week at little club with rich owners QPR!

Sorry but your wrong on this quote if you take a trip to London rd peterborough you will find either end is terracing for home and away fans................and i know because i have been to a few games.As you will see also when we play them in the friendly [:)] and peterborough are in the championship, I think you will find its premier league clubs that have to be seated through out             Premiership and Championship clubs are required by law to have all seater stadiums. Peterboroughs London Road ground isn''t all seater yet because they have not been in the Championship long but will required to turn their ground all seater in the near future. Indeed I know the away end at London Road is being converted to all seats maybe as we speak or will be getting done very soon!

Canario   The Ibrox disaster in 1971 was caused by terracing and there were no fences then. For some reason, nothing was done at that time and 66 people died as a result of that event. I remember it being in the news, but it never attracted the sort of coverage that Hillsborough did.                   The Ibrox disaster wasn''t caused by terracing. It actually happened on one of the staircases out of the stand. What happened was that Rangers I think equalised very late and fans on the staircase getting an early getaway heard the noise and turned back up the stairs to go back into the stand where they tryed to walk the other way against others fans behind them trying to get out which led to a severe blockage half way up the stairs. Many people then fell which led to a domino effect with people from both sides continuing to try to walk in their direction and others unable to do anything other than go with the endless flow which was where the fatalities occurred. Anyone who went to Carrow Road games pre 1973 when there was 35,000+ people in the crowd will recall when after getting onto Carrow Road (now the service road behind the present main stand and none of the other roads and riverside were about) it seemed as if you were being lifted of your feet and didn''t have to walk and you''d still be moving. I suppose this was the case on the staircase at Ibrox.   Yes Ibrox in 71 didn''t get the publicity it should have probably but it did herald a massive change and improvement in football ground standards. Carrow Road held about 37,000 in 1971 but only 6 years later it held under 30,000 because of these very changes in the ground standards.   Nowadays football grounds are light years ahead of what they''d of been in the 1970''s and even the 1980''s and are better suited to safely containing and controlling big crowds. When Riverside was built all the extra extra roads and pathways have made Carrow Road better suited to bigger crowds.   Like I said in my earlier post converting a few areas in football grounds to safe standing areas where the capaciyt of the stand is no more than what it owuld have been when seated, EG, at Carrow Road the snakepit corner and the Barclay lower tier would not in any decrease the levels of spectator safety. How or who pays for these changes will be the tricky bit!

    Hillsborough wasn''t caused by terracing - It was caused by the police opening the exit gates letting anyone with or without a ticket into the stand who were then directed into one pen which was already full and then the fences and penns didn''t allow for a quick getaway.   Since them dark days, ground control has improved tenfold even before many grounds now being all seater. In my opinion if the same top notch ground control measures were used with safe standing then they''d be no extra risk.   20 years now since Carrow Road went all seater yet still many fans in the Barclay lower tier and the snakepit would rather stand including tose too young or not even born when Carrow Road last had standing areas.   My blueprint for safe standing areas -   A converted safe standing area or completely new safe standing stand to hold exactly the same as the stand did when it was all seated.   No fences or pens.   Only lower tiers of stands to be used as safe standing areas.   Every person in a safe standing area to be behind their own numbered crush barrier.   This has got to happen if theirs any common sense!

["Hucka Hucka Huckerby"]This more proves what motivates him! He''s joining a smaller club down the road                           In fairness if you was offered £50,000 a week to play for small club with money QPR I bet you would!

Good opening post from A1 Canary!   I think the club should be concentrating on survival 1st althought obviously the higher the better!   With all the managerial upheavel and the League looking stronger, next season will be toughter than this season so noone should start getting carried away!   Remember the S*um 10 years ago. One good Premiership season and they thought they''d made it, bought a load of foriegn mercenaries, ripped apart the squad that''d doen so well the season before and ended up relegated!

My peronnal opinion of course but I thought Hughton was the best option realistic available to us and I''s suspect that most other people would think the same as well!   That said theres no guarantee with anyone or thing but heres hoping Hughton "does it" for Norwich City!   Its only fair to say that in typical East Anglian style, many Norwich fans love nothign better than a good old whine and will try to pick holes in any sitaution however positive it maybe for the club. If we''d just won the Premiership there''d be some old moaner finding a fault somewhere!

I suspect Ajaxeddie is a s*ummer with plenty of time on his hands living in the rough Ips*it suberb of Nacton!?

Yawn Yawn yawn!   This subject has been disscussed many times before on here!   I find it rather disturbing that some Norwich fans think Chris Martin can still make it at Norwich!   Brilliant half season for us back in 07 then nothing till the League 1 campaign when he was outstanding then he done a competant job in the 2011 promotion season and in his few cameo appearances didn''t look anywhere near like being capable of making an impression!   Aparently many Palace fans were unimpressed with him last season!   Lambert and Culverhouse are pretty good judges of character and whats happened to Chris Martin in their time says it all!   Apart from anything else Chris Martin has had enough time to prove himself with Norwich and for his benefit he needs to move elswhere to move his career on!   A previous poster said something which hit the nail on the head  and I''d never thought of myself. - If Chris Martin was playing for another club at his true level either mid to Lower Championship club or higher League 1 team, would we be looking at him thinking he''d be a good signing for us?   The answer to the above is a big NO!

[Jacko"]The results speak for themselves. So he does not need to justify his methods. Two promotions and 12th place in the Premier League last year do all the talking for him. For the record Terry Connor seemed like a thoroughly decent man, but ultimately I am afraid it doesnt get you any points and he was utterly hopeless. I think as the OP as done to be fair Norwich fans must differentiate between Lambert, the manager who was unreal for us and Lambert, the man who wasn''t quite as impressive.     Your right about Lambert but Terry Connor taking over Wolves last season would be similar to the titanic changing captain when three quarters of the ship had already dunk!

If Zigic was bought to do Wilbrahams job last season of squad player/bench warmer, back up striker then I''d say yes but not on silly wages!

Possibly but I don''t subscribe to the view that next seasons Premiership will be the weakest cause I think Reading, Southampton and West Ham will be stronger than Bolton, Blackburn and Wolves were this season!   I''ll take 17th now and if Hughton does that then that''ll be job done, but obviously we have to aim higher than that!

As far as I''m concerned Villa can have the crew who run the burger van behind the club shop for £20M!   Seriously though as much as I want Holt to stay, I wouldn''t want him to stay if he didn''t want to be here cause then he''d likely not be worth a w*nk to the team.   I''ve also got this feeling that Holts one of those players who only does it at one club and if he leaves us to go to another Premiership club he''d struggle?  

Culverhouse played a massive role in our success of the last 3 seasons to the extent that a lot of the signings were ones he recommended and the tactical awareness was obviously 2nd to none!   Not sure what Karsa brought to the table so wouldn''t be bothered about him staying!   Like another poster said, keeping Culverhouse at Norwich would help us and would lessen Lamberts chances of being successful at Villa!   I''m sure theres room for Culverhouse at the club!

The bloke gets goals!   As long as he didn''t want silly wages then he''d be a good addition to the squad!

OGS - I wish he''d of said yes!

I feel for Cardiff City FC because they were in a position where they have been held to a ridiculous ransom demand!   Don''t knock messrs Smith, Jones and Foulger again please!

Don''t forget they were the best team in Europe (European cup winners) as recently as 1982!   If they had been run better in the years after winning the League in 1981 and European cup in 1982 they''d of been up there with the ManU''s and Liverpools, getting regular 40,000+ crowds and Villa Park would of been extended to 50,000+ by now!   Of the the truly huge clubs in the Country, only Newcastle surpass Aston Villa for underachievement!

["Fromage Frais"]You can tell from the rolling contract that Lambert does not have a medium/long time horizon in his planning. Think of it as Football manager 2012 in career mode no loyalty or preference. We see 35,000 stadium, debt free etc etc but to a manager.... Us Salary 800k/1 mil Transfer fees 10-20 million wages 15/20k week Villa Salary 1/2 million transfer fees 20-30 million and max player wage 50-80K Big Club/top 3-6 Salary 4/7 million a season Transfer Fees 30-50 million max player wages 80-200,000 per week+ And as you can see as soon as he gets an offer from a larger fish if he is lucky he will be off again.           This is the bottom line I''d say!

["Dean Coney''s boots"]I am quite cross about the Holt situation if it really is contractual. As regards the lambert situation McNasty has played it perfectly and deserves praise. Well done. But why on earth refuse Holt his three year contract? The fact is the man just had a magic season and likes it here. If he has just one more in a similar vein then he will keep us up again and the extra money raised will more than cover his extra years even if he is past it by then - which he may not be anyway. Look at Sheringham. To my mind he is a late developer and has plenty left in the tank. Secondly we are not going to replace him as regards goals and all else he does for less than £15million - so again why not give him the contract? If feels to me that egos are clashing and if the club could just eat a little humble pie then we retain our main striker and it will make this week feel just a little better. To lose Lambert was bad enough but at least out of our control- to offer Holt a massively good thank you contract is within our power. Just do it!                     Spot on!   The chances of signing a replacement who''d be as good as Holt would be minimal I''d suggest and will cost money anyway! Holts got at least one more good season in him at least and if it turns out to be next season with us then we''d likely secure a 3rd Premiership season!

I don''t think the Jasper Carrot relevance is referring to who he supprts rather that Villa is old and clapped out much like Jasper Carrot!

I too thank Lambert for what he done at Norwich but I wouldn''t be unhappy if he fails at Villa which is possible!

Yeah maybe he did run from a challenge with us but hes going to an even bigger challenge at fallen giants Aston Villa!

If Culverhouse is going to take the plunge and have a go at management, where better than at a club where he spent the best part and longest part of his playing career!   When I look at Stve Bruce, I look at a bloke who''d of been good for our club in the late 90''s up to about 2005-06 but now looks tired and n ot hungry enough to do the job!