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Well fair play to you if you think that the loss is only 3 million cos of a 4 million pound lower wage bill....great what fantsastic news...doncaster is right and lakey is wrong! You are obviously a king of spin, perhaps you were at same school as Doomy, please let me know where that was cos they obviously teach the art of spin very well but you just can''t pull the wool over some peopls''e eyes!!

I think the whole point is 5-7million is loss of revenue!!! Wages are not revenue are they!? The whole reason Norwich have to drop the wage bill is because of the loss in revenue ie TV, sponsorhip, season tickets (those who now cancel), gate reciepts & rebates, merchandise etc. I think all this will add up to way more than 3 million hence why Doncaster is talking out of his ring peice as usual!! Maye it''s you who is not so bright USAcanary, not the figures!

If you genuinely believe your squad is better than most in the league then I''m sorry your seeing what you want to believe and not being realistic. I think your squad is underperfoming, but it is not a top-half of the table squad. As for the playoffs or being better than your championship winning squad, that''s just way way off the mark. I think it''s natural for a supporter to think their squad is slightly better than it is, we all do it. The standard of most championship squads had improved significantly in recent years, even for the weaker teams. Barnsley splashed out 1.5m on Hume, Forest have Earnshaw, Blackpool have some tidy players and signed Gow. You think these teams are weaker than you because of where they have been but if you look at their squads i don''t think they are any worse than your present team. Lita has made a big difference as he is a player that would get into any squad in this divison. I couldn''t say that about many, if any, of your other players. Look at your supposed better players Marshall - ok but makes mistakes fairly regularly, Otsemobor - neat and pacy but can he defend, Kennedy looks ok, Bertrand - seems to be rated higly but inexperience, was probably worst player on pitch at Portman Road last season, Pattison - very average, Clingan - looks ok but nothing special, Hoolahan - one good gane every 5 or 6, Bell - looks reasonable. Sibierski - not the player he was. Out of the remaining players I don''t think many clubs would be queuing up to sign them. With Lita (a goalscorer) I''d say the squad should be able to achieve 12-15th. Without Lita I''d say 16th -22nd depending on confidence, cos they need that to make up for the lack of quality. No confidence and you will struggle as is showing, if the confidence comes back mid table will be attainable for you guys

[quote user="Shack Attack"] Last night Norris denied making a handcuff gesture. He said in a statement: “It wasn’t a handcuff sign, it was a private message. “But I can see how people might have seen it like that and I apologise wholeheartedly if it has caused any offence. Luke’s a good friend of mine. But he made a massive mistake and he is rightly paying the price for it.” I know he plays for them which sometimes makes it difficult to look at these things with an open mind but maybe he''s telling the truth. Never underestimate The Sun''s willingness to drag bereaved parents out to add weight to one of their opinions/stories. Never mind the fact that a) Norris claims it wasn''t a ''handcuff gesture'' b) bringing it to the families attention has probably caused them more grief and c) that Norris has made it clear that although he''s a mate he deserves to be behind bars. [/quote] Shark Attack...well put, nice to see a mature opinion on the matter.Whether or not it was a handcuff gesture or not, we may never know (it certainly wasn''t in the obvious style of Cahills when he did it) it was silly and has been said it if was a private gesture why do it on a football pitch? However the publicity this has generated genuinely astounds me..i genuinely feel sorry for the family, who as i said would not have been affected if it had not been for the media. I wasn''t personally at the game but the general concensus is that no one even realised there was any message in the celebration....it actually looked like an anelka type style of celebration where he crosses his hands over! I look forward to seeing the statement realeased by ITFC later

[quote user="Marty"][quote user="VOR"] Seat, whilst David Norris has been a very stupid guy, he is not for one minute condoning drink driving, hasn’t drunk driven himself, hasn’t killed anyone, hasn’t broken the law and has admitted his actions were inappropriate.   Now answer me this, what do you think Amanda Peak thinks of a certain Matty Pattison who I believe he has been convicted of drinking driving since the Peak’s tragedy. Yet I vet you don’t see him in the same vain just because he wears a Yellow shirt and not a blue one.   One word I think….hypocrisy.   What makes this thing so unfortunate is that 99.9% of people knew nothing of the celebration on Saturday or thought it had any meaning….apart from a journalistic hack, no doubt struggling for a story and decided to ring up the mother and bring the memories all flooding back to her now this thing has gone national. Hope that individual is very proud of himself! [/quote] I am not going to condone drink driving in the slightest, it is inexusable but to suggest there is a link between someone convicted of drink driving and someone who actually killed two poeple whilst doing it is ridiculous. Making some pathetic and sick gesture of solidarity to his friend is in very bad taste and the player has made himself look like a fool. [/quote] Where have I suggested a link between the two. Norris has not killed anyone, not drunk driven or condoned drink driving. Agreed the gesture was pathetic and in bad taste but people stating he should be strung up for a moment of madness and insensitivity need to look at some of the other things that go on around them.......the media loves this kind of stuff unfortunately and doesn''t think about the hurt is causes the people involved ie the Peaks. Had the media not got involved the Peaks would not have even known about it. 8,000 fans at the game didn''t even know anything had happened so when a tabloid paper says ''in front of 8,000 shocked fans'' it is blatantly making stuff up

Fair enough Seat, i respect that, and granted Norris will recive plenty of stick from you guys on the 7th which he has only got himself to blame for. I just see so much hypocrisy in the reaction to this when people do far worse things, he has bee more foolish and insensitive than anything......typical footballer probably and not the brightest spark I would guess

Can you actually read Nutty, where have i stated I am defending David Norris, i agree he has been extremely stupid and insensitive. However people are calling for him to be banned for life when he actually hasn''t broken the law is just a bit ridiculous. The reaction he is getting is of someone who has committed a serious crime. I''m sure his club will dicscipline and I''m ensure he will make a private apology to the family as well as the public apology already made. Hopefully he will aslo have the decency to donate a few to a drink drive awareness campaign as well as the fine he will no doubt receive.  

Seat, whilst David Norris has been a very stupid guy, he is not for one minute condoning drink driving, hasn’t drunk driven himself, hasn’t killed anyone, hasn’t broken the law and has admitted his actions were inappropriate.   Now answer me this, what do you think Amanda Peak thinks of a certain Matty Pattison who I believe he has been convicted of drinking driving since the Peak’s tragedy. Yet I vet you don’t see him in the same vain just because he wears a Yellow shirt and not a blue one.   One word I think….hypocrisy.   What makes this thing so unfortunate is that 99.9% of people knew nothing of the celebration on Saturday or thought it had any meaning….apart from a journalistic hack, no doubt struggling for a story and decided to ring up the mother and bring the memories all flooding back to her now this thing has gone national. Hope that individual is very proud of himself!