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    Personally I don''t want a civic reception. We have done well to gain promotion and win the league most probably, but we have just put right a wrong that should have never have happened in the first place.So lets acknowledge the teams achievement and  celebrate when the trophy is awarded to the team at Carrow Road but move on after that.For me holding a civic reception and open top bus parade just smacks of Delia''s "little old Norwich", an attitude that needs to be, like this season in League One assigned to the history books.

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    [quote user="Title chasing CT "]Hoolahans absence stood out like a sore thumb today. We were sh** against Stockport and again today.This isnt just a knee jerk reaction because I fully acknowledge our season has on the whole been a success. Oh and the ref is not an excuse today. If the ref doesnt give you a decision then instead of whinging GET ON WITH THE F*CKING GAME! Nothing we do or the players say will change the refs mind.Am I the  only person who feels that we have been pretty sh** since Christmas?But we can play sh** in this league and still win.That wo''nt happen next season, most teams in the Champ will tonk us.

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    [quote user="corbs"]Their fans did appear to be of the ''lumpen'' persuasion, as opposed to the usual mix of families etc. I saw a heavily built bloke outside the Barclay before the game bleeding from the mouth, appearing to try and retaliate against a group of large lads. Informed that he was a City fan but I cannot verify this. Not sure how active the Police were as there were many of them just yards away but no action was evident. At the end of the game we were confronted with Leeds fans looking for trouble ''have a go you c--t'' and all that, again the Police seemed to act like this was normal behaviour. Made the Victory even more enjoyable.[/quote]

    Yes, i saw that guy as well. Large bloke, probably about 50 I would say, wearing a Stone Island jumper (don''t know if that had anything to do with it?), his nose was bleeding and he was trying to get at the blokes who did it along with a guy with glasses. No coppers around.What was obvious to me was that the old chestnut that hooligans/casuals like to come out with about only wanting to start on and fight other hooligans is definately not true.Alot of the blokes I saw causing aggro were the plus side of 40 and 50 some of them. Don''t know what it is, I guess they just can''t grow out of it?

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    [quote user="Bury Yellow"]Totally agree LinkNR9. I just wait for someone to come on this board and criticise the crowd. What absolute bo11iks.

    The atmosphere is a partnership between players and supporters. I have lost count of the away games I have been to. Visiting big and small clubs and I can assure you they are no different to us..... Oh yes there is one difference, the marvellous loyalty shown by our supporters.

    There maybe some good and interesting points to raise during the course of this season but the Carra crowd isn''t one of them.

    That''s my rant over[/quote]I think your wrong.The atmosphere this season at home aside from the Charlton game has been poor imo. I sit all over the ground and the Barclay and Snakepit especially are definately more muted than in previous seasons.I also don''t buy this "its up to the players on the pitch to get the fans going" line completely either as we have beaten nearly all the teams at CR this season and the atmosphere has been poor.I beleive it''s a combination of the dire football we have had over the last few seasons where there was also  discontentment with the managers and board, fans were jarred off in general with the state of the club. This has a muting effect on the crowd particularly the SP and Barclay so much so that it has now become the norm to not really make much noise anymore (fans have got out of the habit of singing if that makes any sense?).Plus although we win many games at home they are generally speaking easy routine wins, there is no excitement or egging your team on as they walk over most teams. Plus the away teams don''t bring many fans as well which has a big effect.Wait till Leeds till up in March with 2000 noisey fans and i think the atmosphere will be much improved. This is one of the main reasons i want to get out of this league so that there is more excitement and atmosphere at the games as most games will be against better clubs.

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    [quote user="Kent Canary"][quote user="the duke of norfolk"]I was cringing again today to hear sections of our support chanting Ole, Ole, going up up up! and We''ll never play you again.It is January, and you were asking for egg on your faces as I thought Hartlepool were one of the best sides we have played at Carrow Road this season.

    Button it please untill when/if we do actually secure promotion or at the earliest April if we still have a lead on 3rd place.[/quote]Will you be starting a thread next week having a go at everyone for being too quiet?[/quote]I won''t but someone else might.

    I think it sounds arrogant at this stage of the season and I''m not changing my stance on that.

    Of course I want an atmosphere at the ground and singing "We are top of the league!" is great as it is a fact, however promotion, although likely, is not.

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    [quote user="Arthur Whittle"]For christs sake, if you are that bothered dont go there...simple!!![/quote]I''m not going anyway, it has not to do with their reputation. I know that back in the seventies and eighties it was rough but not now.I was hoping that some of the more senior members of this site (like you Arthur)  might offer their views on the documentary and the question i asked.

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    I was cringing again today to hear sections of our support chanting Ole, Ole, going up up up! and We''ll never play you again.

    It is January, and you were asking for egg on your faces as I thought Hartlepool were one of the best sides we have played at Carrow Road this season.

    Button it please untill when/if we do actually secure promotion or at the earliest April if we still have a lead on 3rd place.

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    [quote user="Jim Kent"]Surely the fact that he is releasing players early and planning pre-season tricks to Scotland suggest he already has the job.

    Also I simply cannot believe they would have brought in Crook and Butterworth for the sake of a few months.

    I understand most fans would like a new man appointed, but I think that debate is pointless, because Gunn will be allowed to carry on no matter what happens on Sunday.[/quote]Well if that does happen then i fear that we really could be in for a very long stay in League one or worse. Not because Gunn is manager but because if the board appoint him then it will show that they are not serious about getting back to the Championship.

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    [quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"]

    [quote user="the duke of norfolk"]what the boards ambitions are.If we do go down and they choose to give the job to Gunn or one of his team then my friends it will be clear as daylight to me that this board are content for this club to be a League One team.If they want us to get back up to the Championship then they will appoint an experienced manager with some degree of a track record. If Gunn or one of his team gets the managers job then get used to League One because we are  going to be there for a long time.

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    I agree with your attitude about Gunny (no disrespect meant but he should never have been given such responsibility with so little qualification) but who are these ''experienced manager[s]'' that you speak of?

    Would you be happy with a lower league boss eager for an opportunity at a higher status club or are you thinking of someone with a higher reputation (if so how are we going to attract him with no money, League One footy and half a squad of players once the loanees depart in the summer)?

    [/quote]I would  be happy with someone like Steve Tilson, Mike Newell or Jim Gannon.All of them have experience of League one and all 3 have got sides promoted from the lower 2 divisions (Tilson got Southend promoted twice). All 3 are currently managing at clubs smaller than ours, Southend, Grimsby and Stockport.Why anyone believes that Gunn or one of his team would make a better choice than one of these guys i don''t know. BUT HEY! THIS IS THE BOARD OF NORWICH CITY FOOTBALL CLUB WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!

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    what the boards ambitions are.If we do go down and they choose to give the job to Gunn or one of his team then my friends it will be clear as daylight to me that this board are content for this club to be a League One team.If they want us to get back up to the Championship then they will appoint an experienced manager with some degree of a track record. If Gunn or one of his team gets the managers job then get used to League One because we are  going to be there for a long time.

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    [quote user="Friel"]

    Greetings Canaries

    Assuming you dont get your get out of jail free card on Sunday and get relegated, I''ve compiled this guide for fans of a big club on how to survive League One, or as I affectionately call it, ''The Abyss''. As a Forest fan, we had 3 delightful seasons down there, so I know of what I speak. If you do get out of jail, keep this handy and read it next year, as safety often convinces boards that all is fine and nothing changes - there''s clearly something wrong at your club, and it often takes relegation to shake things up so maybe in the long run its best to get it over with.

    1) Get over yourselves - Seriously, you arent the first ''big'' club to go down to the third tier, and sadly you wont be the last. Man City, Wednesday, Forest and Dirty Leeds all went before you - hey you''ve even got Southampton, Charlton and (hopefully) Dirty Leeds as company, you wont be alone like we were for the first 2 years until Dirty Leeds joined us down there. Expect a team like Derby or Watford to follow you next year. Sad but true.

    2) Its a crap division - so get used to it, Crap teams, crap grounds, crap crowds and unplayable quagmire pitches - and thats just August. Worst thing is, you''ll be losing to some of these teams - you''ll be a ''scalp'', their cup final, they''ll be desperate to beat you, or they''ll put ten men behind the ball and say ''come on then, we''re happy with a point''. Its shite, truly shite.

    3) "You''re not famous anymore" - expect to hear that alot. Best response is "You weren''t famous anyway". If its sung at their home ground, "here cos its Norwich, you''re only here cos its Norwich" will do the job nicely. Should you score and make it 1-0 for example, "one nil to the famous team, one nil to the famous team...." always goes down a treat. If you''re losing, or have lost, just grin and bear it.

    4)  Your local rivals - Will be pissing themselves, on a weekly basis. If you lose, they''ll take the piss, if you win they''ll take the piss "oh wow, you beat <crap team>, woohoo lol". Suck it up, theres nowhere to run and nowhere to hide, you went down, they didnt, they have the bragging rights and you will just have to live with it - think about it, what would you do if roles were reversed,? Exactly the same - Your only hope is that they get a flukey promotion to the premiership, get utterly found out and become the worst team in history - this strategy worked quite well for us.

    5) Ok pop quiz - Its late february, you''re a few points off the playoffs - lower than you expected to be after a dodgy run of results, you have a home game against a bottom 6 side thats shipped goals all season, its half time and its goalless. What do you do? a) hope for better in the second half, go and get a pie. b) boo your team off becuase you should be turning teams like this over in your sleep. If you chose b, you are a cock. This isnt the Ryman premier, you;re not playing pub sides, these are professional players playing for professional teams, and theyre not going to roll over cos you once played in Europe. You''re not going to win every game 4-0, youre not going to win every game period. So what if you only beat yeovil 1-0 with a lucky 87th minute penalty, at least you won. If you''re losing 3-0 at half time then fine, boo away, they deserve it, but booing your team because it isnt men against boys is just gay. Treat every goal, and every win as a bonus, not a given. Some fans expect too much - dont be such a fan.6) Promotion is the sweetest - think it was great going up to the prem? Thats nothing from the feeling of getting out of Division one. There are benefits to losing out on promotion to the premiership - you get to play in the championship, and that means watching your team play on a saturday afternoon, no ridiculous ticket prices and being part of a genuine league as opposed to a cartel of four sides with sixteen others who just dont want to go down. There are no benefits to losing out on promotion to the championship from Div 1, and when promotion comes the joy is augmented by bucketfuls of utter relief. Our promotion day against Yeovil on the final day matched any from the European days for atmosphere and pure jizz-my-pantsness. Promotion will come eventually, it is inevitable, Division One is like a septic tank - its full of crap but eventually the big chunks rise to the top.

    Now go my son, tread the oft-worn path of a big club in Division One, and when you return to the championship - for return you surely will - may you be a better fan for it.

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    I am not confident of that at all.We have an absolutely useless board who i genuinely beleive will secretly be happy that we are league one and further away from "that wretched Premier League".We are more likely to slide into League 2 than get promoted back to the Championship i fear. I do genuinely fear that.

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    [quote user="singing canary"]

    after the season has finished all the loan players will return to thier parent clubs .

    considering we have very few players left , who do you think will want to stay here and remain loyal to the club .?

    the is always the question are loan players as loyal as a player who is on a perminent contract, and wants to do well for his club .

    will be interesting to see , if and when, we go down how many will want to fight for norwich city in the first division .

    thoughts?

    i was reading with interest the thoughts of  big fellas article , regarding the liverpools fans view on huckerby and his loyalty to norwich city , i wonder how many of our players now got that attitude huckerby was respected for.

    You have forgot to ask the question "which players will the NCFC board want to keep?".

    Make no mistake Doncaster and co will now use this opportunity to get rid of the higher earners at the club. The club is apparently losing money every week mainly because of players wages. If we carry on like this then we will go into administration sooner or later. It would not even surprise me if secretly those on the board are happy that we are likely to be relegated as they will see this as an excellent opportunity to "get the house in order".

     

     

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    [quote user="Soldier on"]

    A definite NO.

    New manager is needed.  Perhaps Tilson who the board have stubbornly avoided at managerial selections so far.

    Interesting though that Gunn has already been quoted saying he looks forward to pre season games.  Doncaster has yet to refute claims that he has already been appointed.  It seems that the board may reward failure again and give Gunn a full term contract - cheap options "yes man etc.

    Can we have a piece of journalism that puts our under achieving board of directors in the firing line for a change.  It is they that have overseen the failings that have gone on at this club.

    [/quote]This is true. After both Worthington and Grant were removed Tilson was issuing "come and get me!" pleas through the press but our board ignored them on both occasions.I would like to know the reasons why.

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    [quote user="Jim Kent"]I think there has been too many managerial changes at NCFC. Bryan Gunn hasn''t been great, but he is still learning.

    It''s is vital we keep the likes of Crook and Butterworth at the club and I can''t see that happening if Bryan leaves.

    Therefore, my compromise would be give Bryan six months into the new season. And if he is doing the job then a change is needed.

    If a change is decided on then my choice would be Mark Robins.

    I am minded another scot called Alex Ferguson, had a rough start at Man United. The board were brave and kept the faith and now look where he is.

    Bottom line is I think Bryan deserves a bit more time.[/quote]Exactly! This is the reason he must not be in charge next season. The same goes for Crook and Butterworth when it comes to managing in England.

  25. Posted

    [quote user="Jim Kent"]I think there has been too many managerial changes at NCFC. Bryan Gunn hasn''t been great, but he is still learning.

    It''s is vital we keep the likes of Crook and Butterworth at the club and I can''t see that happening if Bryan leaves.

    Therefore, my compromise would be give Bryan six months into the new season. And if he is doing the job then a change is needed.

    If a change is decided on then my choice would be Mark Robins.

    I am minded another scot called Alex Ferguson, had a rough start at Man United. The board were brave and kept the faith and now look where he is.

    Bottom line is I think Bryan deserves a bit more time.[/quote]Can you please explain to me why it is vital we keep the likes of Butterworth and Crook at the club?You sir are wearing green and yellow tinted spectacles. No doubt about that imo.
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