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  5. Posted

    [quote user="Bor Bor Bor"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/9248096.stm

    "We are one year into the plan, the plan includes three years in the Championship, first year to settle down," McNally told BBC Radio Norfolk.

    "We would then be promoted to the Premier League, allowing for immediate relegation and an immediate return."

     

    So here''s old Bor''s theory on all this in the light of the Fulham debacle;

     

    1. Because of Lambert''s over-achievement, the board have been found out as unambitious and lacking in business acumen and willingness to invest in order to drive forward and deliver a successful second season.  The "biggest ever transfer budget" was a fine soundbite but ultimately hollow.

     I fear that there may well be some truth in this. If we get relegated the board aren''t really that bothered as it was all part of the grand plan anyway.

     

    2. Since Lambert walked out, rather than spend the money on an experienced and credible Premier League manager, the board have gone back to the tried, tested and failed old ways of "get the cheap option" in order to free up money to develop additional seating and infrastructural enhancements to boost the balance sheet, and to repay all debt to make the club a more saleable commodity.

     

    3. There is no pressure on Hughton as the board are comfortable with relegation plus parachute payments which clears all the club''s debt.  That is why Bor has heard nothing from the club today - no apologies to the thousands who made the long trip, no reassurances that everything will be alright and that this was just a freak result.

     

    4. The board will then spend big and back Hughton to deliver promotion the following season with a bigger financial payout (£50m) than is given to the also-rans who stay up by the skin of their teeth.

     

    5. The scale of what Lambert and his coaching team achieved through positive attacking football can only now be revealed by comparison to the spineless and naive fiasco that unfolded at Craven Cottage yesterday.

     

    The bottom line is the board has sanctioned a season of relegation and appointed a yes-man as scapegoat to deal with the fallout, an appointment that looks wide of the mark judging by his poorly judged press conference comments.  But don''t be fooled by what is happening on the pitch or in the interview room.  Look to the boardroom if you want real answers. 

     

    Think on, fellow Canaries.   Think on.

     

    Bor

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  7. Posted

    I ask this as I have read in numerous articles that Paul

    Lambert was "told" by the Norwich City board when we won promotion to

    the PL to sign young, hungry players from the lower leagues.

    Ward was given a 1 year extension before Hughton arrived as were several

    other players if I remember rightly. Martin and Surman were given new 3

    year deals either before or just after Hughton arrived.

    The other signings of Butterfield, Snodgrass and Whittaker for some

    reason don''t strike me as the sort of players that Hughton would go

    for.

    Are there other people other than the manager influencing player contracts and transfer dealings at our club?

  8. Posted

    [quote user="cityangel"]

    Was so lively in pre season so why didnt he at least get to come on when we were 3-0 down ?

    Presume he''s off but if he isnt we have to start with Holt orMorison and Vaughan upfront against QPR.

    Whats your opinion ?

     

    [/quote]We didn''t play him as we don''t want him to get injured as we probably want to sell  him to get money towards a better striker.

  9. Posted

    [quote user="cityangel"]

    Was so lively in pre season so why didnt he at least get to come on when we were 3-0 down ?

    Presume he''s off but if he isnt we have to start with Holt orMorison and Vaughan upfront against QPR.

    Whats your opinion ?

     

    [/quote]We didn''t play him as we don''t want him to get injured as we probably want to sell  him to get money towards a better striker.

  10. Posted

    [quote user="paul moy"]

    [quote user="jimbo"]admitting most teams players are technically better than ours is a bit worrying![/quote]

    He''s looking for excuses already then.  What a surprise.

    [/quote]But all the teams  do  have technically better players than us I am afraid. Our team is made up of Championship standard players. They punched above their weight last season but I fear  that  they will be found out this season. This is going  to be a very brutal and  hard  season  for us. Some serious thrashing''s are going  to come our way I  fear.

  11. Posted

    But I am afraid that''s true.  I felt  this  last season. But we had confidence  and a team spirit envisaged into the  players by Paul Lambert that allowed us to match other teams. However, this will only last so long and take you so far.Lambert knew that we needed better players to  survive this season and when he found out that the money would not be available to bring those players  in he decided that  his  time here was up.

  13. Posted

    [quote user="City1st"]

    "Snodgrass for Crofts was a direct and clinical move to improve the squad. Butterfield has been brought in as he is young, can play either wings or upfront, behind the main striker"

     

    These were lined up BEFORE Hughton joined us, as I suspect Whittaker was

    I suspect other as far more hands on in transfer dealings than just Hughton. What he will have done is indentified who he feels is no longer needed and possible replacements, with the defence being the priority ie Drury, Naughton, Whitbread and Ayala going out and Whittaker and Turner coming in. I would expect at least one more in and out there.

     

    [/quote]By who exactly? Lambert?

  14. Posted

    [quote user="Row D Seat 7"]If McNally was the bright spark we thought he was, the money that went on Hughton would''ve been evened out by the money received for Lambert, Culverhouse and Karsa but he left us wide open where that was concerned.

    We need to spend some real money on a striker.

    Also, getting a bit tired of righteous fans having a go at anyone who dares to complain about something. Whenever I''ve commented that I think we need a new striker I''m shouted down by someone who thinks it''s so so wrong of me to not think that everything true club are doing is perfect.    [/quote]I have noticed that trend on this site.

  15. Posted

    When I say blind optimism I am refering to when someone writes a post that may in someway be negative about our chances for next season or about the lack of signings they seem to be shot down in flames by the vast majority of posters on here who says things like "don''t worry we finished 12th last season we will be fine" or "don''t worry we have Howson and Pilkington we will be fine". There seems to be an expectant level of optimism on here which is not necessarily a good thing as it could lead to dissapointment.

  16. Posted

    [quote user="lake district canary"]

    No one is being blindly optimistic - not even me - what alot of us are saying is that to take the pre-season games as an indication of what will happen during the season, is just wrong.    If we are not careful, we shall be "underwhelmed" "depressed" "worried" before a ball has been kicked in anger - because people are getting wound up about pre season!!  Its been shown time and time again that pre-season games are not a good indication.  The better the pre-season, often leads to false optimism (remember 2009 pre-season?).

     

     

     

    Blind negativism is just as bad as blind optimism and the truth is that some where in between.   To me we have strengthened defence and midfield, still have the main attackers from last season (who scored plenty) and have a manager that is known to get the best out of his players.  Thats all. Its not blind optimism.    We should be more worried about blind negativism...........................

     

     

    [/quote]I am wound up because I wanted us to push on and spend more money and make better signings this summer and to also off load the dead wood (Lappin, Barnett, Ward,). Why the hell is Chris Martin back  in the frame? It''s as if we can''t afford a new striker so we have  got him back instead. I''m not knocking Hughton. It is  the board and their lack of ambition I  am angry about. We should be speculating to accumulate.

  17. Posted

    [quote user="Chunky Norwich"]

    [quote user="the duke of norfolk"]I have to say that reading many of the posts on here for some time now it slightly amazes me just how much blind optimism there is by so many of you for our chances next season.Now I don''t like to be negative but at the present time, unless some more quality signings are made, I have a bad feeling about next season. I just don''t see that we have moved on much from last season. Yes, we finished 12th but that was  only 5 points above the relegation zone. If the season had gone for much longer we probably would have faced the drop.Here''s hoping that Hughton  can pull some quality signings out of the bag that are going  to  make a big difference to the quality of our starting 11.[/quote]

    But the question is, have we gone backwards? Lambert going is a massive blow but did he really care around March onwards? I''d suggest he didn''t.

     

    From what I''ve seen on here, the optimism seems to be based on found arguments. It''s the negativity which is blind! People just wanting Norwich to fail because moaning and fretting appear to be Norvicinian hobbies

    [/quote]Of course he cared. He would not have wanted us to get relegated as this would have looked bad on his CV.

  18. Posted

    [quote user="mrs miggins"]we finished 12th because we deserved to finish 12th and that was a great achievement. please do not make that a negative thing as well.[/quote]It was indeed a fantastic achievement I''m not knocking it just stating what I felt in that we would quite likely have gone down if the season had gone on for longer.I said at the  end of last season that I felt that  we would need half a dozen quality, new players who would be better than what we currently have if we were to avoid a big struggle this season. I feel that so far we have not  made those signing''s and that''s why I am worried. Hence my negativity.

  21. Posted

    I have to say that reading many of the posts on here for some time now it slightly amazes me just how much blind optimism there is by so many of you for our chances next season.Now I don''t like to be negative but at the present time, unless some more quality signings are made, I have a bad feeling about next season. I just don''t see that we have moved on much from last season. Yes, we finished 12th but that was  only 5 points above the relegation zone. If the season had gone for much longer we probably would have faced the drop.Here''s hoping that Hughton  can pull some quality signings out of the bag that are going  to  make a big difference to the quality of our starting 11.

  24. Posted

    My thoughts? I am not in anyway surprised at those prices. I was having a conversation with my mate the other day about what casual ticket prices would be next season and I forsaw prices around those you mentioned.It''s supply and demand. There is plenty of demand so the club can afford to put prices that high.Whilst we are talking about ticket prices if we stay up this season I am predicting a significant hike in season ticket prices for the season 2012/13. I can see it coming and there being alot of discontentment, BUT whilst there are a couple of thousand on the waiting list the season ticket sales will continue to grow.

  25. Posted

    Yes, you have stated exactly what is concerning me. If Pilkington had not suffered that injury then I would be all for us signing him. BUT, that injury he suffered is a very nasty one. Look up a picture of it on the net, his ankle looks really fucked. Notman''s career was ended by a far less serious looking injury than this. £500k for Pilkington is worth the gamble but not for the £2 million fee being quoted.
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