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[quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"][quote user="good tips"][quote user="Branston Pickle"] [quote user="good tips"]I don''t think many fans will be on the fence by the end of next week when they read what really went on this week. NO meeting, NO proper negotiation, in fact they just made it as difficult as possible for Cullum, in the end frustrating him and making him angry.[/quote] Well there seems to be two (or more) versions of what happened at this ''meeting'', so perhaps time will tell us all....though why should anyone believe you in what you are saying here any more than those whose accounts are different?  If, when the ''truth'' comes out and Delia et al look like a bunch of money grabbing rank amateurs, all well and good, but what astounds me at the moment is that just about any old b-s about the club seems to be lbelieved by all and sundry, and the more negative the better.  And so far - forgive me if I''m wrong - all it seems you have done so far is feed trite comments to those who will lap them up, with absolutely no substance whatsoever. [/quote] Your reaction to what I say is understandable. You dont know me and I dont know you ,so fair enough. What you choose to believe is up to you, but you will find truth in what I say next week. All I can tell you is that I have been party to some of the goings on but only from Cullum''s side. I can give you no more substance, other than to say that it will all be proved next week. I know there was no meeting with the club and I know that they issued him with a list of some pretty ridiculous questions before  they would meet with him. They know he is busy running his business, he was not available for a meeting this week, this had already been stated in the EDP. They want to frustrate him and make him back down because either Delia does not want to let go of control or because she does not want to stay on  with a new board in control and therefore wants him to buy her out completely at an un-realistic cost per share. Cullum''s side of things will come out next week, but he is not the sort of man who is was to issue a rash statement in a hurry over the weekend. He will consult people first then act, you watch the papers next week. He will not put up with the way things have been distorted by the club. Whether or not it will result in things going further with NCFC will depend on the fans reaction to the news and then Delia''s reation to them. [/quote] Well...I believe you Good Tits...... [/quote] You wait....... by next Friday you will all be saying Good tips was right.!!!!

[quote user="Branston Pickle"] [quote user="good tips"]I don''t think many fans will be on the fence by the end of next week when they read what really went on this week. NO meeting, NO proper negotiation, in fact they just made it as difficult as possible for Cullum, in the end frustrating him and making him angry.[/quote] Well there seems to be two (or more) versions of what happened at this ''meeting'', so perhaps time will tell us all....though why should anyone believe you in what you are saying here any more than those whose accounts are different?  If, when the ''truth'' comes out and Delia et al look like a bunch of money grabbing rank amateurs, all well and good, but what astounds me at the moment is that just about any old b-s about the club seems to be lbelieved by all and sundry, and the more negative the better.  And so far - forgive me if I''m wrong - all it seems you have done so far is feed trite comments to those who will lap them up, with absolutely no substance whatsoever. [/quote] Your reaction to what I say is understandable. You dont know me and I dont know you ,so fair enough. What you choose to believe is up to you, but you will find truth in what I say next week. All I can tell you is that I have been party to some of the goings on but only from Cullum''s side. I can give you no more substance, other than to say that it will all be proved next week. I know there was no meeting with the club and I know that they issued him with a list of some pretty ridiculous questions before  they would meet with him. They know he is busy running his business, he was not available for a meeting this week, this had already been stated in the EDP. They want to frustrate him and make him back down because either Delia does not want to let go of control or because she does not want to stay on  with a new board in control and therefore wants him to buy her out completely at an un-realistic cost per share. Cullum''s side of things will come out next week, but he is not the sort of man who is was to issue a rash statement in a hurry over the weekend. He will consult people first then act, you watch the papers next week. He will not put up with the way things have been distorted by the club. Whether or not it will result in things going further with NCFC will depend on the fans reaction to the news and then Delia''s reation to them.

[quote user="dylanisabaddog"] The EDP reports today that "One of the big stumbling blocks is the club''s existing £15m debt.  Whilst Cullum was confident he could simply renegiotiate the deal and take it on, it is believed that Axa, which financed £12m of that sum, would insist on complete repayment of its share at any chamge of club ownership." There are many people on this message board who trust Peter Cullum.  It would appear that Axa share the view of the Board of Directors, who clearly do not.n can there be for Axa to refuse to lend money to NCFC under the control of Cullum?  The only logical explanation I can think of is that they are worried that they might not get their money back.  This is probably because of the way that Cullum intends to introduce the promised £20m transfer kitty into the club.  It has been suggested that this would be by means of a share issue, which is unlikely as it would result in the value of the shares as a whole being devalued, thus resulting in Cullum losing his money.  He is unlikely to simply gift the money to the club, businessmen simply don''t operate that way.  What has probably worried Axa is that Cullum intended to loan the £20m, leaving the club owing £15m on the existing debt, another £20m to him and £4m to the current directors.  What''s more, the club would be spending the money on players (and their wages) who could be worthless in 3 years when they walk away from their contracts.  A debt of £39m may, in some people''s opinion, be bearable if we got promoted and stayed in the Premier League, but Axa, like me, are clearly not prepared to gamble on it.  Perhaps they are worried that rather than ger promoted, we get relegated.  A debt of £35m in League 1 could kill the club. I have read several messages suggesting that we protest against the Board.  Can I suggest that we wait until the full facts are known?  If it turns out that a good offer has been made then I agree we should all push for it to be accepted.  At the moment, however, all we know is that an independent company that was prepared to lend the club money under the current regime is not prepared to do so with Cullum in charge.  Perhaps we should all stop, think and wonder why.   [/quote] Mr Cullum is a Billion £ player in the Insurance business. Are you telling me he does not have a tie up or contact with AXA who are an insurance company not a bank.... you must be joking. Cullum knows them all thats what the club dont like, Delia feels vulnerable and does not want to let go of her toy. The club have not told the truth about this weeks negotiations, there was none... they put impossible conditions on Cullum before they would meet with him, instead of inviting him in to discuss issues face to face. There was NO MEETING the club are lying, you watch the press next week and you will see what really happened.

[quote user="lucky green trainers"][quote user="good tips"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="good tips"]I don''t think many fans will be on the fence by the end of next week when they read what really went on this week. NO meeting, NO proper negotiation, in fact they just made it as difficult as possible for Cullum, in the end frustrating him and making him angry.[/quote] Don''t make us wait[sn][O][|-)] Tell us now[:-*] Then we can get down and have a good rant with the others[st][li][:@]   [/quote] Can''t say any more right now other than I hope fans believe what Cullum says next week and then understand that the board have lied in one big cover up to allow them to run THEIR cosy club THEIR way with all THEIR lack of ambition. What sort of owners are they. What other PLC directors can hide behind their staff and say nothing when all is chaos around them. These people do not deserve any trust. [/quote] how comes cullum and the board issued a friendly joint statement???  not saying you''re wrong, but even if cullum was privately p@@sed off but went along with joint statement for the sake of NCFC - why would he a week later tell all??? sorry mate, don''t square up for me...but will await next weeks headlines with interest?<> [/quote] No prob , I understand what you are saying. He agreed the statement for the good of the club right now, but he did NOT agree all the other rubbish spouted by Doncaster on the radio and the story in the press about how the board had worked tirelessly to sort a deal out. These are lies I understand your hesitancy but it will all come out later next week and it wont be pleasant... I just hope the fans believe Cullum. Lets wait and see

[quote user="mozzer"] good tips wrote the following post at 12/07/2008 7:00 PM:  Unlucky Fried Kitten wrote:  good tips wrote: I can tell you that it is definately Delia, Michael and the board who are the problem, they dont want to let go. You probably wont believe me, but I have some inside knowledge of what went on this week. I know its all going to come out next week, then the s*** will hit the fan as far as the supporters are concerned. What has been written in the EDP today (Saturday) from Doncaster is total rubbish and lies, they did not work "tirelessly" to do a deal with Cullum. It was the total opposite, they did everthing they could to make it difficult for Cullum, giving him unreasonable dealines and frustrating him. They never met with him at all, they didnt want to and Delia has never spoken with him since this began at the beginning July. Hardly the reation of someone who has the clubs best interests at heart!!!! We fans must keep the pressure up on the board to let go and let Cullum take over.   At last! A newbie who isn''t pro-board! I can tell you that if all the fans new what the board had been up to this week no one would be pro board. Doncaster is just Delia''s puppet who wants to keep his job. Erm - what about the joint statement? And Doncaster''s recent summary of the discussions? Because if these are incorrect then legally it would very easy to clear up and correct.... Wonder how many Ipswich fans post on here stiring things up? [/quote] I can assure you I am not a Ipwich (scum) fan. I''m a season ticket holder, who happens to be on the inside and know about Cullum and his offer. The joint statement was all the clubs doing, they never met with Cullum, they have messed him about because they want to keep on running the club,he already said that he could not meet this week, after all he is running a multi-million £ company. As for Doncasters statements and radio interviews etc all lies. See the press later in the week, and before you ask no I dont work for the EDP either. I am just telling you what I know.  

[quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="good tips"]I don''t think many fans will be on the fence by the end of next week when they read what really went on this week. NO meeting, NO proper negotiation, in fact they just made it as difficult as possible for Cullum, in the end frustrating him and making him angry.[/quote] Don''t make us wait[sn][O][|-)] Tell us now[:-*] Then we can get down and have a good rant with the others[st][li][:@]   [/quote] Can''t say any more right now other than I hope fans believe what Cullum says next week and then understand that the board have lied in one big cover up to allow them to run THEIR cosy club THEIR way with all THEIR lack of ambition. What sort of owners are they. What other PLC directors can hide behind their staff and say nothing when all is chaos around them. These people do not deserve any trust.

[quote user="Unlucky Fried Kitten"][quote user="good tips"] I can tell you that it is definately Delia, Michael and the board who are the problem, they dont want to let go. You probably wont believe me, but I have some inside knowledge of what went on this week. I know its all going to come out next week, then the s*** will hit the fan as far as the supporters are concerned. What has been written in the EDP today (Saturday) from Doncaster is total rubbish and lies, they did not work "tirelessly" to do a deal with Cullum. It was the total opposite, they did everthing they could to make it difficult for Cullum, giving him unreasonable dealines and frustrating him. They never met with him at all, they didnt want to and Delia has never spoken with him since this began at the beginning July. Hardly the reation of someone who has the clubs best interests at heart!!!! We fans must keep the pressure up on the board to let go and let Cullum take over. [/quote] At last! A newbie who isn''t pro-board! [/quote] I can tell you that if all the fans new what the board had been up to this week no one would be pro board. Doncaster is just Delia''s puppet who wants to keep his job.

I don''t think many fans will be on the fence by the end of next week when they read what really went on this week. NO meeting, NO proper negotiation, in fact they just made it as difficult as possible for Cullum, in the end frustrating him and making him angry.

I dont think Delia is evil, she just does not like progress. She is far happier for the club to remain in her control bobbing up and down in the championship, nice little day out each Saturday for her and all her family. Just check out the first row of the directors box!!!

I am sorry but you are wrong. The board would not speak directly to Cullum, there was no meeting. He is prepared to negotiate, but needs to see all the figures and sit down around an open discussion table to do so. The board a obviously hidding something so are reluctant to do this. Doncaster is all spin, you see, he will be exposed. Why should Cullum need to get control of a football club, he''s a Billionaire who gives millions to charity, I bet hardly anyone in Norwich had heard of him until this all came out, and he never went to the press last October, so why do you think he should have a sinister motive. If the club get relegated and goes bust next year everyone will be asking him to save us. 

I can tell you there is no plan between Cullum and the board. They will not speak directly to him. However a disaster could happen as a result of this, then Cullum probably would step in but thats not the plan, he is not that callous, he loves the club. Otherwise why would he bother to offer the money, he controls enough business already and does not want fame, if so he would have gone to the press last october. The board are the Villains here.

There is little point me saying much more because many people will not believe me, but you watch the papers next week, Cullum will reply. Then it will be up to the fans to choose who they believe. All I know is there was NO meeting between the board and Cullum, they did not want to give him the chance, they cant let go and value the club way over what it is really worth. Who would want to buy a club that''s £18m in debt. The club shares are pretty worhtless, Delia can say what she wants about the share price but they are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them. Cullum already has a Billion £ business to run so he hardly has time to play games and to achieve what? He already gives millions of ££s to charity, so could spend his money elsewhere if he wanted too.

You are right it did all start last October, how do you think the club got Norwich Union as a sponsor, bit of a coincidence hey (Cullum is a big customer of AVIVA). Cullum did not want to risk relegation back when we were already bottom of the league so kept quiet until now when a takeover would be more sensible. Mark my words Cullum will declare what''s really gone on behind the scenes next week, I just hope the fans trust and believe in him cos he is a really genuine guy who would be a real asset to the club.

I can tell you that it is definately Delia, Michael and the board who are the problem, they dont want to let go. You probably wont believe me, but I have some inside knowledge of what went on this week. I know its all going to come out next week, then the s*** will hit the fan as far as the supporters are concerned. What has been written in the EDP today (Saturday) from Doncaster is total rubbish and lies, they did not work "tirelessly" to do a deal with Cullum. It was the total opposite, they did everthing they could to make it difficult for Cullum, giving him unreasonable dealines and frustrating him. They never met with him at all, they didnt want to and Delia has never spoken with him since this began at the beginning July. Hardly the reation of someone who has the clubs best interests at heart!!!! We fans must keep the pressure up on the board to let go and let Cullum take over.