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  1. Please God, no. He is no better than Krul, and he was the weak link in the Man City side for years, sheltered by a strong back 4. His England performances proved as much. Please, no, not worth the money. And it would be substantial.
  2. Next season will be more difficult. I don't know whether there will be a market for 'staying up' or whether it is just relegation, meaning that if I want to back Norwich to stay up, I have to 'lay' them to go down. In other words, I will become the bookie rather than the punter. So I could be risking rather a lot of money to make it worthwhile. Which isn't really in my playbook. Or, more accurately, isn't really in my wife's playbook, so doing that would result in my **** being removed and used as a skippy purse. Which isn't really in my playbook.
  3. It basically is. It's why I don't usually bet on individual games as I usually don't have the time (or inclination) to keep an eye on what the market is doing over a 2 hour period - the long game is much easier. Although to be fair I was keeping an eye on movements on Easter Monday to work out what I wanted to do in respect of my Sheffield United title bet. But I'm not going to make any more trades this season. I'm happy with my positions. And there you go, more hedge fund management talk.
  4. Think you're right on that. The Norwich standalone odds suggest that it is a promotion bet, not an outright winner bet.
  5. Good call. We can't afford the negative press of a pitch invasion, or some of the worse consequences. https://sports.vice.com/en_uk/article/pgndqm/pitch-invasions-footballs-forbidden-fruit "It isn't just individuals who are at risk of punishment. Every time a fan makes their way on to the pitch, the referee has to include it in his report. This goes to the FA, who'll get straight on the phone and ask said club to explain themselves. If too many of those calls are made, the FA can basically punish the club in whatever way they like. A fine is most likely, but in particularly egregious cases a points deduction is possible. They really, really do not want you running on their precious grass." Imagine if we lost promotion because of a points deduction for an organised pitch invasion. However unlikely, it is still possible. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3185291/Blackpool-deducted-three-points-pitch-invasion-forced-clash-Huddersfield-abandoned-season.html
  6. I've had various bets on Betfair for a while now, but been trading out of my positions as I have gone along - guarantee the profit. I had us winning at 120:1 but sold out at the end of September for 44/46:1. Before the Wednesday game I bought into Leeds for a fiver (4.3:1) and Sheff United for £3 (25:1). I've sold out Sheff U a bit to guarantee a profit if we win (£6 profit on initial stake of £4), but stand to make £31 if the blades get it. To be fair, I don't want the Blades to get it, but I can see us having to get something out of Villa on the final day if we want the title. Which I am not hopeful of. Put £6 on us for top 6 at 5.3 mid august, and sold out at 1.26 at the beginning of December, taking home £17 in the process. Backed Pukki for top scorer, £5 at 16.5:1 at the end of September, and have progressively sold out of that to pick up £5 profit. Backed us for promotion, £5 at 7.8 at 30 September, and sold out at 2.18 at the beginning of December. to guarantee £12.5 profit. I fully expected the post Christmas slump but I sold out too quickly on us winning. If I'd have waited for the beginning of December, I would have got odds of 5:1 to sell out, and made £100 easily. My problem is that I've been a Norwich fan for too long. I've seen far too many strong starts and far too many post Christmas collapses. I bet to sell out of them when I've made enough profit to make it worthwhile, not to win the bet. Sadly, I sold out of the draw against Wednesday - £5@4.6:1, sold out @2.9:1, and placed at 8:1 for a Norwich win. Would have made £24 if we had won, or £18 if I'd have held to for the draw, so ended up basically flat on that bet. But never mind. No money lost. And no, I'm not a binner. I'm just not a gambler. I'm a trader. I pick bets that I think are more likely than the market believes, and trade out when the market catches up. Hence doing Betfair Exchange rather than a traditional bookies. It helps that my day job requires me to understand derivatives trading (which is essentially what Betfair Exchange is).
  7. Final Whistle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Brentford.
  8. As it goes, if things stay like this, we have to lose both our remaining games, Leeds have to win both, there has to be more than a 10 goal difference swing to Leeds, or, if they can only manage 10, they have to score 19 more goals than us in those 2 games. 1 minute to go...
  9. They really aren't playing as a team. They're being pretty selfish in the box.
  10. And are we sure that Jack Clarke is 18? I know I'm no spring chicken, but he doesn't even look old enough to grow a beard...
  11. Massively selfish play from Canos there - should have been 3 but he wanted the glory. But they are utterly ripping Leeds apart. The last couple of weeks have been somewhat less than glorious for us, but it has never been embarrassing. I would be truly embarrassed to be a Leeds fan watching this. Especially having lost to 10 man Wigan on Friday. To quote the Wigan fans from last week, Premier League, you're having a laugh...
  12. I live in the north west, so I have a load of away clubs nearby, and good links into London,bbut getting to carrow road is a right ****. Do we do an away season ticket? I think we used to but can't see it on the website. Thanks
  13. Why is everyone looking at average wages for ''normal'' people and then comparing that to the very top end for football? The wages you are talking about are for the very best 500-odd footballers in the country for the PL, and then a further 650 for the champs. If you want a proper comparison, look at the average salaries of the top 1000 earners outside of the sporting/entertainment fields. You cannot compare the wages earned by people with very specific skills in very short supply with the wages earned by everyone else with no specialist skills, or skills with a decent supply in the market. So, the correct comparison is the career total earnings for a top footballer compared to the career total earnings for a top lawyer or accountant or equity analyst in a bank. You have to be VERY high up the foodchain in football to do better than these top guys who have four times the average career length. The average championship wage of £325k, for instance, is towards the bottom of what you can expect to earn as a partner in a big London professional practice (accountants, lawyers etc) and there are probably in excess of 6,000 of them. Do you get the picture?
  14. I hear George Weah''s cousin might be available...
  15. Never. Never. Never. Never. (ad infinitum). He''s a liability on the pitch and a troublemaker off it. Best way to destabilise a squad IMHO. There''s a reason he''s been bounced around from club to club.
  16. £48 for a full price replica shirt? I know its been a while since I was in the club shop, but WTF?????????????! In other news, I''m larger than the average bear - take a 48 ish jacket size. Assuming I''m not the lycra type, what size shirt should I go for?
  17. Where are they 50% off? On the club shop website they are still £24. Is that half price?
  18. I can''t help but notice our record on live telly over the past 5 years (think I''ve seen us not lose less than a handful of times) and wonder whether 3 televised games from our last 7 didn''t help us? Just a thought. And yes, I know that there were loads more reasons we went down, including: Being goal shy Critical errors by Bassong Luck of the draw (Chelsea game, penalties against us that shouldn''t have been, and clear penalties for us that weren''t given) Us just not turning up for huge chunks of the season Putting 4 in and not winning against Liverpool
  19. So, lets break this down. You want a Mr megabucks to own the club, and you want multi multi millionaires on the board. We had millionaires on the board (remember the Turners, anyone?) and what happened? Recession hit, and they were in trouble. We had Peter Cullum come in for the club, and where is he now? I can tell you that Towergate is not the company it used to be. A lot of people on here seem to confuse ''wealth'' with ''cash reserves''. They are very much NOT the same thing.
  20. That''s nice dear. We have no idea what went on at board level. We have no idea who voted to keep Hughton. We have no idea whether motions were tabled to sack him. All we do know is that he won his crunch games. Until he lost against West Brom at home, and got fired. If we had won that game, we would have survived, and that''s the truth of the matter. In my view, we know absolutely nothing that would give anyone a reason to call for McNally''s head. Yes, there''s a lot of talk, and a lot of suspicion, but nothing concrete that anyone KNOWS that makes it an utter disgrace that arguably the most successful Chief Executive in the history of the club has not resigned yet, and has no intention of. I wouldn''t call for his head even if we were in the Championship for a while. Without bags and bags of money, it is difficult to get out, and it is very much about having the right manager and the right luck. We had the right manager in O''Neil, but Chase screwed that up. We then got the right manager in Worthington, but were not strong enough financially to stay up, coupled with a fair chunk of our squad just not turning up for the Fulham game. We had the right manager in Lambert, but he wanted bigger and better, yet went to Villa. Only time will tell whether the next guy is the right manager, and in my view, that cannot be guaranteed at this point, no matter who you appoint, unless you go with someone that I would never ever want to see at my club, like Warnock or Harry. No, nay never.
  21. The team are in what can only be described as a desperate position. The guy hasn''t done the job that he was brought in to do, but then again foreign strikers often find it difficult to settle in their first season as the game is different here. He is most likely deeply frustrated with himself. So I am not surprised that he snapped when a bunch of idiots decide that they have the right to single him out personally for the team''s failures this year. He''s not even in a management position and able to influence how we as a side play. If he hasn''t tried all season, yeah, go for him, but I think it is universally accepted that he has tried. Don''t blame him for how the team gets set up. More experienced strikers have tried, failed and got desperately frustrated under our former manager.
  22. Not football, but could very easily be. Imagine if someone moved next door to CR and tried to get the place shut down because of noise - it could happen under current law, even though CR was there first. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62894
  23. OK, player trading. Can it impact P&L? Yes it can. First impact has already been identified, being the amortisation charge on player contract fees. More player costs, bigger intangible, bigger amortisation, especially if shorter contracts, Second impact hasn''t been ref''d from what I can see. What happens when you sell a player? In terms of double entry, you get cash in (Dr Cash on balance sheet) and you remove the intangible relating to the player contract (Cr intangible asset). Thing is, the cash and the intangible very rarely match, difference going to P&L. So it is very correct to say that player TRADING has an impact on P&L. As I understand it, we had a good year the year before last on player trading, and sold players for more than they were accounted for. This year, we''ve let quite a lot of quite expensive players (which Lambert over-paid for, arguably) go for bugger all, so you would expect losses on player trading. Hopefully this settles things on player trading and P&L impact. If you want to discuss my accounting qualifications and experience, please feel free to PM me.
  24. Purple Canary... Message a bit clearer. Fair enough on the terms - on that basis the contingency has materialised and the club can be obliged to repay. However, I still fundamentally disagree that an intention to do something has any impact on the underlying matter on which it is to be done. If it were not a debt (from your description of the terms, I''m not disputing that it is a debt, this is purely a hypothetical), and intention to repay it would not mean that you accounted for it as a debt. I would qualify the accounts if they tried to account for it as a debt when there was never any obligation to repay, simply because they wanted to repay it.
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