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That''s all i can say about the refs performance at your game. If that had of been us i would be livid. Never a sending off and the Reading player near the end should have gone. I have seen this clown a few times and he is too young and too inexperienced to ref at this level. God help us if he refs us two, we could be down to 8 a side.

doing ok. You can see the respective boards hoping come January we are both in the same,if not improved, positions. No more financial investment then. Seriously though even with Evans investment and your astute manager i didn''t expect this. We all want the premier league but sorry,with clubs with our size and investment this league is far more exciting. Weird but true.

Don''t worry about us we will spend our way out of this. Mid table this year,challenging next year. You really need to concentrate on your own team. An impressive season ticket uptake and excellent crowds yet little money to strengthen your team and rising debts. If you go up then you will still have around the same attendances so that means not much more money. You have a league 1 team so how,if you go up, will you afford a championship team.

After the very sad news yesterday and all the tributes to our great manager and ambassador of ITFC it got me thinking about the way football is today and how the greed and selfishness in football has ruined this once great game. When the tributes came in and people were talking about how Sir Bobby was prepared to raise millions for cancer even though he was seriously ill it made me also think of Bryan Gunn. Here is a man who has also faced great adversity in his life. To lose a child is unimaginable but to come out the other side and decide to do something to help others shows the measure of the man. I have never heard Sir Bobby moan,likewise Gunn. I have never heard Sir Bobby publically chastise people in the football profession, likewise Gunn. Yet here we have 2 men who could have quite easily,and rightly so, felt sorry for themselves but chose to stand up and be counted and start a charity purely to help others. We may not get on on the football pitch but one thing we can both be proud of is that in the greedy,corrupt world that is football today we have 2 men in East Anglian football we should be very very proud of.

If you have no investor then however much it sounds like blackmail what do you do. Say no to your rebate and you get more funds or claim it and your club MIGHT not go up next year and you go into admin . As an outsider it seems the general concensus is that you don''t believe that all the money will go into your transfer kitty. It really is a hard one to call.

The reason we have been taken over is because we were not asset rich. Our creditors had no chance in getting their money back so had to take something as making us bankrupt would have meant they got nothing. ME comes along and offers them a few million and as there are no other investors the creditors have to take it. Not ideal i agree. The problem with Norwich is they are too asset rich. Sounds daft i know but it''s true.

Thanks for that but i just think you might be pleasantly surprised. 20,000 crowds will attract the better players willing to play in that division.

This,from a blue, is my honest opinion of next season. Firstly we won''t go up. It will take 2 seasons to get up and if Keane is given the funds i think he will do it in the second year. Secondly...for all the doom and gloom that has hit home since relegation look at league 1. Nearly every club has debts that are holding the club back and impact on wages when negotiating a free transfer but,and it is a big but, if you were a player would you take the 3k (just guessing) at a club who gets 5000 fans or would you rather take the 3k and play in a ground with 20,000 people. It''s a no brainer really. I know it''s easy for me to say this but i honestly don''t think you will have a worry next season. Top 2 and i''m that confident i''m going to do you in my accumulator.

p.s...this is funny...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrXhxmQJSS0&feature=PlayList&p=DC74ADA8E2154221&index=0&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzlgXPbGy-E&feature=PlayList&p=DC74ADA8E21542T21&index=2&playnext=3&playnext_from=PL

Well you had better prepare for it because you are staying up. It must be a very strange feeling hoping your club survive as you are fans but having the knowledge that if you do it is likely to save the regime that runs the club. I don''t envy you for that. I still have a sneaky feeling though that WHEN you stay up you will be under new ownership OR have some significant funds next season.

and i honestly think you will as you will beat charlton and Barnsley will lose, what will happen when the feelings of relief go. Can you see the supporters ousting your board or do you think Gunn will still be manager on a limited budget again next season. Is staying up a catch 22 situation?

Here is what i hope happens sunday. I hope you stay up for 2 reasons. Firstly i would miss the derby. You could play Real Madrid but the derby is something else for our little part of the world. Secondly and more importantly i would like to see Gunn have his moment of glory and then decide he feels the need to hand the reins to someone else so he doesn''t fail next season. Gunn has experienced something i hope no one ever has to experience in life and the remarkable way he has come through it and had the drive to raise thousands if not millions for charity shows what a remarkable man he is. The same could also be said about Sir Bobby which i know by previous threads on this site you lot admire too. I hope your boys do it for him.

Normally no but surely your club has been run so far down in the ground the best option is to go down and rebuild. Yes it may get ugly but i bet you would have a clear out at all levels including the board. Stay up and what have you got to look forward to next season?  

If he took us up and then kept us up he would no doubt be offered a bigger job anyway.

As it seems a hot topic on here can i tell you what i believe most people think and get away from this tit for tat squabbling from both sets of fans. Appointing Keane is a risk in as much as appointing any manager who hasn''t been in the management game very long. Secondly we all know he walked out of Sunderland but we hear conflicting stories so do we really know the truth? Maybe he was wrong,maybe the Sunderland owner was wrong,who knows. The thing about this appointment is that if it does go pear shaped at least the players will be signed and in place and will be Ipswich assets. Also the biggest single factor for me is that the owner has shown he is not going to walk away and has put his money where his mouth is and made his intentions clear that he is in it for the long run. Ask many Ipswich fans if they want you to go down and many will say yes but there a lot who want you to stay up. A season without the derby just isn''t the same. Even when we were both in the premiership at differents times how many of us can honestly admit that we didn''t miss the derby. I can''t.

Well you got Clingan for nothing so there are good players out there. There is no way you will not have a transfer budget next year. You never know the board may surprise you. Last sundays game was just my general view.  I obviously don''t see you every week but you only looked 3 players short to me.

so why so much negativity. Barnsley won''t get another point this season and you will get at least 4. Forest and Plymouth will struggle too and with your goal difference you are home and dry. I might be wrong here but at our place last week i thought defensively you are ok but just need a couple of midfield players to control the ball in the middle of the park to relieve the pressure on your defence. Add a striker to that and next year you will not be in this position.

Yes he did get us on the cheap but i think,and hope, he is in it for the long haul.

Usually in the upper north but i am not a season ticket holder because of work. I cannot attend midweek games and attend roughly 12-15 home games a season and about 5 away. Mind you the way work is i reckon i will have plenty of free time soon!!!

We get a new manager and the club come out with the usual load of rubbish about another 3 year plan. It is then fingers crossed the owner is in it for the long run. What really gets my goat up is our clubs get good gates (yes you get more) yet we cannot compete in such a poor league.

Hahaha i know what you mean but seriously we are very very poor at home believe you me. The crowd will soon get on the players backs and we get worse hence our good away record.

Yes...but i fear i will be going home peed off!!!

Firstly you will beat us on Sunday. We are dire at home,have a manager the players don''t want to play for and your players will be hungrier whilst ours will be thinking of the beach!!. I have no doubt that you beating us will have a positive outcome for us as we will have a new manager for next season. When you have secured safety,and you will, what happens to your squad next season. Surely there is no way your board will let you get in this situation again. They must have a plan,outside investment, lined up to buy some of the loanees who have done well for you. Whatever happens Sunday to the victor just glosses over for 10 minutes the major problems both clubs have.

Come on you lot tell the truth. Let''s look at this league...8 maybe 10 clubs with a bit of cash to spend...8 with a little and the rest with sod all yet the league is so poor it''s unbelievable. Can anyone on here honestly see the 3 teams that go up stay up. As for you lot you will stay up. However much you agree/disagree about your manager at least you know his desire is second to none and that must reflect on the players. Being a blue it doesn''t matter what we say but one thing is certain....we both need each other. Not for revenue ....your season tickets and our backer have proven that...but to keep each others season alive. We may be higher than you but we are so poor. Money helps but good management is a must. Sadly put the 2 together and we both are fcuked. We will be in the same division that i am sure. Sadly will anything have changed? No chance.