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[quote user="TCCANARY"][quote user="Webbo118"]And to add fire to the fuel, we now have a smooth talking, spin driven politician as Chairman. Politicians are infamous for not being able to make a decision. They are always kicking things into the long grass and dedicate all their actions to one thing and one thing only - winning votes. It will take a lot for EB to kick this lifelong habit.[/quote]In the past we''ve had some chairman from various professions but they''ve all reverted to spin.One said ''If Chris Sutton isn''t here at the start of next season I won''t be either'', Chris went, the chairman stayed.One said all we had to do was be a bit cleverer than the other clubs to get promotion, that didn''t work.One said that we would soon be experiencing ''mid table mediocrity'', we got relegated.I sure the current chairman will (or probably already has) say something that will come back to haunt him, it''s part of the job. [/quote] The only difference is that we have a professional, highly trained spinner this time. Could almost be Shane Warne''s older brother.

[quote user="Nuff Said"]In what way is what the board have described as their plan (borne out by events so far) dithering? If they had said we will do a like for like replacement of Alex Neil before the end of the season, then yes, they could be accused of dithering. But they didn''t.[/quote] I think you must have a short memory or be suffering from attention span deficit.

[quote user="Webbo118"]And to add fire to the fuel, we now have a smooth talking, spin driven politician as Chairman. Politicians are infamous for not being able to make a decision. They are always kicking things into the long grass and dedicate all their actions to one thing and one thing only - winning votes. It will take a lot for EB to kick this lifelong habit.[/quote] Or even fuel to the fire! Doesn''t really matter which; the result is roughly the same!

And to add fire to the fuel, we now have a smooth talking, spin driven politician as Chairman. Politicians are infamous for not being able to make a decision. They are always kicking things into the long grass and dedicate all their actions to one thing and one thing only - winning votes. It will take a lot for EB to kick this lifelong habit.

[quote user="Jim Smith"]The board absolutely deserve scathing criticism for this season which has been a monumental screw up. Indeed they''ve wasted the opportunity of this season twice. Firstly by keeping Neil on for far too long and then subsequently by effectively writing off the last quarter of the season by not having their ducks in a row to sort out a replacement and telling Irvine to carry on as you were. It may well be that Webber and this new all singing, all dancing structure works well in the future. I hope it does. However it doesn''t alter the fact that their decision making this season has been appalling and that they have wasted one year of our two year parachute payment window of opportunity and still appear to be a bunch of rank amateurs.[/quote] Completely correct and spot on. In fact, you could go as far as to say that they are ditherers.

[quote user="Number 9"]Promotion Promotion Promotion[/quote] I think the new structure will result in more realistic aspirations with just two priorities - promotion and promotion.

[quote user="Branston Pickle"]If is a huge word - he could have come to us and been an abject failure, who knows.[/quote] Because of dithering we will never know

Norwich City’s interim chief Alan Irvine has first hand experience of the pitfalls from adopting the head coach football model. Irvine is poised to complete his five-game stint in temporary control against Reading this weekend, with City closing in on Huddersfield’s head of football operations, Stuart Webber, as a new sporting director. The Scot worked in a similar set-up at West Brom and insists it is vital Alex Neil’s successor knows exactly what the remit is. “When I was head coach at West Brom it was pretty much, you are the head coach, we bring you the players and you work with them,” he said. “I wasn’t a fan of that. If you don’t rate the player you are not going to play them. I don’t see how it works. But you take jobs based on the information you have. That is a conversation any manager or head coach should have before they take the job. I knew the situation at West Brom before I went in. I wanted that job so I had to either accept those circumstances or not. If I didn’t I wasn’t going to have that job. Tony (Pulis) came in and said he wouldn’t do it that way. “They are much more used to it abroad. They recruit a head coach to fit the club. In this country it is picked at random far too often. Certainly the model abroad tends to be the sporting director presents the players to the head coach. I don’t know what the model will look like here. But the sporting director and head coach have to be in tandem. It could well be it is still very much a manager-role, when they make all the decisions in and out, or it could be the other way, where the new guy and the board want to take that aspect away from the head coach.” Irvine revealed City’s on-going recruitment work has not been disrupted by Neil’s exit. “There are people working on that continuously,” he said. “That happens irrespective of whether I am here, or whether Alex was here before me. It is a department that in the main runs itself. Alex didn’t have to drive that on a daily basis. The new sporting director, I am quite sure, will have a lot to do with that side of things. We don’t stop scouting and give them the weekends off. They are all out at games. The people in post will continue to do their job. I was asked to keep things steady and ticking along for the next person that comes along and that applies to all the staff.”

[quote user="wcorkcanary"][quote user="Webbo118"][quote user="westcoastcanary"]@Webbo118Anyone who accepts appointment as head coach under this system will understand that the SP "has the authority to block a signing". As the original article says, this is anathema to many home grown managers, so we won''t be appointing anyone of that mind. The fact that the system works just fine for virtually every top tier club across Europe and several here shows that there need be no problem; what''s needed is a head coach who buys fully into the way the system works, and appreciates the benefits of working within that framework. [/quote] And presumably he has the authority to give the head coach players that he doesn''t want?[/quote] Oh Dear, thats not progress happening at our Club is it? can''t have that, god forbid we change anything. What if it works...the idiots should have done it earlier. I like the idea of a new set up. the current one has worked, up to a point but we are very much limited by finances...... and unless we are promoted sharpish or sell out to someone with big bucks.. that side of things wont change, but a change of structure could make a big difference. Either way , I prefer change from within. [/quote] I am all for change. What we have at the moment is patently not working. However, I am not naive enough to believe that putting a new structure in place and changing job titles will automatically guarantee success. The link below perfectly sums up my thoughts. http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/alan_irvine_warns_clarity_is_crucial_in_norwich_city_s_new_football_model_1_4962460

[quote user="westcoastcanary"]@Webbo118Anyone who accepts appointment as head coach under this system will understand that the SP "has the authority to block a signing". As the original article says, this is anathema to many home grown managers, so we won''t be appointing anyone of that mind. The fact that the system works just fine for virtually every top tier club across Europe and several here shows that there need be no problem; what''s needed is a head coach who buys fully into the way the system works, and appreciates the benefits of working within that framework. [/quote] And presumably he has the authority to give the head coach players that he doesn''t want?

My main concern is the following: "It could also be argued that the head coach should have the final say on signings. There is on benefit in forcing an unwanted player on a head coach" "A sporting director will present to the head coach the best options for a particular position and the head coach will select his preferred choice. However, as the sporting director is the custodian of sporting performance, he does have the authority to block a signing" This is an area where elements of grey have the potential to produce problems. It has to be black or white. I can hear the responses already - they have to come to an agreement. In a lot of cases that might be possible. But in others, it won''t. Who has the final say? I know what Alan Irvine thinks!

A trolling scummer talking about dithering!

[quote user="TCCANARY"][quote user="Rogue Baboon"]That''s correct - its just a shame that the club do not seem to have planned for it one bit[/quote]What planning needs to be done? [/quote] Get the coach arranged (the one the players ride on) so that the team gets to Wembley in good time.

[quote user="Nuff Said"][quote user="Webbo118"]Yet again, and as always, we have shown ourselves to be the champion ditherers. If points were awarded for dithering, we would be top of the league. The board dithered for four months whilst AN did his dead man walking act. Now they are dithering again as other clubs act decisively by appointing new managers, leaving us dithering behind. Who would expect any manager worth his salt to be keen to go to a club run by weak, indecisive ditherers?[/quote]You could equally, in fact, more credibly, say why would any manager go to a club where previous managers are sacked frequently after a few bad results? Surely they are more likely to go to a club with a relatively patient board where they will be given time and stability?[/quote] In the recent circumstances at our Club, I would be interested to hear your definition of "a few bad results". The same comment applies to "stability".

They need to get people appointed well before the end of the season. It''s not a good idea to assess players whilst they''re lying on the beach!

What is the point of responding to idiots like this? Am I missing something?

I was informed that my grandson was 725 in the queue a couple of weeks ago and I have now received a call inviting him to apply for a season ticket.

I think he posted this two weeks early!!

Yet again, and as always, we have shown ourselves to be the champion ditherers. If points were awarded for dithering, we would be top of the league. The board dithered for four months whilst AN did his dead man walking act. Now they are dithering again as other clubs act decisively by appointing new managers, leaving us dithering behind. Who would expect any manager worth his salt to be keen to go to a club run by weak, indecisive ditherers?

[quote user="Mello Yello"]Maybe Roy Hodgson will be appointed onto the board in a dual role as DoF and a Director of Delia''s Dinner Party''s......?[/quote] Perhaps he could have a third role - wine waiter!

[quote user="Nemzadze"]Well I''m not a spoon who trolls like u buddy[/quote] I may have missed something but is there a point to you being on here?

[quote user="Jamie Witherspoon"]Two PL clubs, hardly small.[/quote] I understand that but, if you aren''t aware of the differences between the two clubs, you''re probably in the wrong sport.

The only problem with that team is we still haven''t got anyone to attack the ball when defending corners.

[quote user="norfolkbroadslim"] ............................................................. McGovern..................................................Klose ............................. Bassong..Whittaker......................................Martin.............................. Bennett...................................Dijks.........................Pinto..............................Godfrey.....................................Howson.......................................................................Jerome[/quote] Why select Jerome. Surely there is a case for picking a false number 9.

[quote user="Thisisbabyish"]Haha someone had clueless as their word of the day 😆✊🏻[/quote] Notice you are not disagreeing with that considered analysis. To do so would confirm that you are indeed clueless.