Snakepit Boy

[quote user="LQ"]Unfortunately questions that are left hanging in the air develop a sense of truth, or at least urban myth style truth (which does it for many!) whether they are on the money or not. Proper questions and proper answers are always better in the long run. [/quote] Let''s hope he gets an answer then. Somehow, I doubt there will be one.

[quote user="PurpleCanary"]Is is really beyond an Archant journalist to: 1. Answer a question ("Is it true we failed to insure Dejan Stefanovic...") rather than witlessly just ask it? [/quote] Um - perhaps because he wants to know if it''s true or not? Isn''t that what a question is? Meanwhile, is it really beyond a Pink Un poster to: Answer a question ("Is it really beyond an Archant journalist...") rather than witlessly just ask it?

Our line-up today is genius. I bet other managers are looking on with envy at our man''s tactical nous.

[quote user="Carrow Roeder"]"The EDP understands..." is the worrying line[/quote] I don''t blame people for their cynicism, but I''ve been led to believe that "the EDP understands . . ." is code for "We''ve been told this in confidence and it''s true". Look at the picture on page three of today''s EDP of the reporter with Roger Munby. This story is more than just wild stabs in the dark - it''s come from the top. I would suggest that the EDP has it pretty spot on this time.

[quote user="blahblahblah"] Small, pedantic point, but if the Truners have left, surely it should be "Smith and Jones" on the For Sale sign. [/quote] Good point, although the Turners still have money tied up in the club, and it''s that money that would be recouped if the club was sold. So both are right.

[quote user="Midlandcanary"]someones trying to sell thier paper.......................[/quote] A newspaper publisher trying to sell a newspaper? Whatever next!

[quote user="Camuldonum"] [quote user="Midlandcanary"]someones trying to sell thier paper.......................[/quote]   That''s understandable. Eastern Daily Press 63,058 down 4.3 per cent year on year. Norwich Evening News: 22, 250 down 5.0 per cent year on year. It''s a sad thing about regional newspapers (which is why I got out of them as soon as I could) is that when going for the jugular it often glances off the shoulder. Players, barn door, banjo''s anyone? The only two who will go for the jugular properly are the Newcastle Journal and the Wolverhampton Express and Star. If given a decent chance, I''ll destroy them not take a pot shot. Absolutely smashing moment on Clapham Common with Ron Davies, MP.  Sorted, stuffed absolutely.   Wouldn''t have missed it  for anything. [8-|] "You have destroyed my life," he said. "It''s a burden I''ll try to carry", I said. If the Delia reference is right (which it isn''t) that should have been the splash.  [/quote]   Whoever you are, you come across as a bitter, failed journalist who''s a bit of a know-all. Let me guess - you don''t work on a daily paper but would love to do so, right? I''m not surprised the circulations are down - that''s happening everywhere. Tell me - were you born with a chip on your shoulder or has it developed over the years?

Looks like he''d fit in well in the Championship . . . http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7502968.stm

[quote user="sxcanaree"] Utter tosh and Archant Spin. Comment on the "behaviour" of the club - note this is from an anonymous hack: "But the impression I get is that Cullum has been chased out of Norfolk, with the Stowmarket Two and Neil Doncaster gloriously waving their pitch-forks behind him. Now, before I get shot down for daring to question the judgement of Ayatollah Delia, let me restate that I would still choose them over Cullum, as things stand. But what is clear is that there is an almost unhealthy fundamentalism that surrounds the Stowmarket Two, which brands anyone an infidel for questioning their judgement. One of their supporters, an experienced national sports journalist, even said he did not need to speak to Peter Cullum to know whether he was right for Norwich, because Delia would instinctively work out what''s best for the club. Holy moly! This is the woman, and board, who appointed Bryan Hamilton and Peter Grant…everyone makes mistakes, it is not being disloyal or ungrateful to question the actions of our current regime, even though they don''t take criticism very well. They may think they are always acting in the “best interests of the football club”; but we have a duty to question that sometimes. " Then has the gall to say "And to this end, a certain amount of mud has been slung Cullum''s way since the talks were “officially” cancelled - miraculously emerging on message-boards and in reports." And the first part is not raking out an industrial size muckspreader? have you such rose tinted glasses on that you cannot see the amount of balderdash and piffle that has been slung around by the "Peter Cullum is god brigade" If you are a journalist who has the ear of Peter Cullum get us some facts will you - as you have had an interview with Peter Cullum surely you can at least follow it up! Just admit is you are upset because another "national journo" has been credited with your scoop! [/quote] Are you ever going to give it a rest? I have never before come across such a know-all who thinks he''s such an expert on all things media when in actual fact you appear to be a fairly run-of-the-mill freelance hack. If you really don''t like Archant, don''t waste your time coming on to this Archant board. There are plenty of other sites where I am sure you would be most welcome.

[quote user="tom cavendish"] "Fans urge club to accept £20m offer" was a terrible headline and it seems very one sided from Archant. Archant don''t speak for the fans. Most people seem to want to know more details or think PC was trying to get the club on the cheap. Gutter press reporting from Archant, and I won''t be buying any Archant puplications anymore. [/quote] Yes. How absurd for Archant to report such a non-news event. Whatever next - they''ll be reporting on the Iraq War.

I have to say I think you''re wrong, Barclayman. I thought it was a very interesting story. There have been rumours and insinuations about investment in our club for years, not least on these message boards, with people stating as fact things that were only rumours. "I''ve got a friend who knows a mate who says that someone he saw is sure that so-and-so is ging to put money into the club." that''s the kind of level it''s been at. Well, this is the first time that we have heard it from the horse''s mouth - and it makes for painful reading for Delia, who has always said that she would sell the club if only someone would come forward and invest. Now, you might decide that Peter Cullum is not the right person to run the club - that''s a valid opinion (although not one that I share). But that doesn''t make it not a valid story. And it''s NOT old news - Cullum may have made the initial approach last year, but it was only a few days ago that he decided to speak about it publicly. Like I say, it''s your right to decide whether or not any point of view is valid, but that doesn''t make it any less of a story. PS: What an outrageous slur to suggest that the EDP exists just to sell papers! Whatever next?

Yes, that''s true. There are probably several other permutations as well. But I think the most likely scenario is if we get a point we''re safe, and if we don''t then we''re down.

I know that everyone''s making predictions all over the place, and none of us actually knows what is going to happen. But, for what it''s worth, I thnk it''s fairly clear-cut: a point will keep us up, and no points will send us down. I can''t see Southampton getting anything at West Brom next week, but they could beat Sheff Utd at home in the last game. That would give them 53 points, but they have a worse goal difference than us, so unless we get absolutely thrashed, a point shold see us stay up on goal difference. If we lose both games and Southanpton beat Sheff Utd, I think we''ll go down. Sheff Wed, by defintion, will catch us if we lose to them, and I can see both Barnsley and Leicester picking up one more point each. So a point on Saturday should be enough. If we lose both games, though, it''ll probably be "Hello League One".

I don''t blame Roeder one bit for being angry at the ref''s decision that cost us the game yesterday. But is it just me, or does this smack a little bit of finding a scapegoat for our current predicament? Andy D''Urso obviously cocked it up big time yesterday, but we''re not where we are in the league because of him. And it''s not as if our players haven''t made hundreds of mistakes all season . . . People who were at the game yesterday say that if we play that well for the rest of the season, we''ll stay up easily. But it''s often said that good teams can play badly and win - well, at the moment we seem to be able to play well and lose. Let''s not forget, even if D''Urso hadn''t got it wrong yesterday, we''d have still only got a point even though we apparently deserved all three. Working on the worst-case scenario that we''ll get nothing from WBA or Ipswich, we need at least a win and a draw against Burnley and QPR if we are to avoid a winner-takes-all game at Hillsborough on the last day. Or am I being too negative here?

[quote user="Kathy"]I also thought it was unusually quiet about us not signing anyone especially Ameobi before the loan deadline. Does this mean we all think we are safe and should hang on to the cash?[/quote] Maybe. Except we''re not safe - and we''ve probably got no cash! [:)]

I''m going too. Should be a fun day out. Might even make a weekend of it in London.

[quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Snakepit Boy"] [quote user="WeAreYellows49"]I think it''s called not kicking someone when they are down, something a lot of high and mighty people forget.  He who casts the first stone and all that.  Have you never made a mistake in your life or are you perfect?[/quote] What a pathetic response that is. "He who casts the first stone and all that." Well, I can cast the first stone because I''ve never been done for drink-driving. Or anything else of a similar magnitude. Or should we have had sympathy with Lee Hughes, who caused death by dangerous driving? That was a "mistake", too, wasn''t it? We "kicked him when he was down". Would you cheer anyone who has done anything wrong? Where would you stop? Assault? Murder? Rape? No one is suggesting that Pattison should have been booed or jeered. But it does seem reasonable to query why so many people greeted him as some kind of returning hero. [/quote]   What a pathetic response!!! Sheesh some people lol Where in my post have I said it''s ok to drink drive?  Where have I said it''s ok to rape, murder, assault??? If you read further than the end of your nose, you will see I have been personally affected by a drink driver. I do believe an apology is owed to me by you for casting aspersions on my integrity, asking where would I stop, assault, murder, rape. I think your response to my personal thoughts, which I might add I am allowed, is both immature in the least and very degrading to me, who you do not know personally, about what I feel or think as a victim of drunk driving.   He played well, people clapped, his fellow players patted him on the back, which I thought was a nice gesture, then we even had the audacity to clap the player coming on, sheesh I must remember to be mute at the next home game. [/quote] I was not casting any aspersions on your integrity. I don''t for one minute think you condone drink-driving, let alone murder or rape. If that''s how my post came across, I apologise. BUT . .  the point I was making was that you (and others, including Glenn Roeder) have said over the past few weeks that no one should criticise Pattison because we''ve all made mistakes ourselves. You went further than that and said let''s not kick a man when he''s down. My point was that there are mistakes and there are mistakes. To say that none of us can criticise because we''ve all made mistakes is nonsense - the vast majority of us have NOT made "mistakes" of this nature. My reference to other crimes was simply to illustrate that if one takes the attitude that all Pattison did was make a mistake, how serious does the crime need to be before we decide that a player is not some kind of returning hero but someone who deserves all he gets? Pattison has been accused - and not found guilty as yet, let''s remember - of drink-driving. He was given a rip-roaring welcome by a lot of the fans last week. All I''m saying is that if one of our players was on a murder charge, would he also have got such a great reception? If the answer to that is "No", as I suspect it would be, where is the line? How serious does the crime need to be before we decide we don''t like him?

[quote user="nc1902"]For those of you that think Pattison was treated better than what was deserved today by the fans and the players, I bet that you lot would be the first one''s to moans about the state of team spirit etc. if the crowd had booed him or the players were despondant towards him. He''s a 21 year old lad who clearly enjoys a pint. In all honesty I think everything has been blown out of proportion by newspapers making up false allegations and certain people on message boards saying that he''s a disgrace and should be shot. The boy wears his heart on his sleeve for this club and puts his head where others wouldnt dare put their feet. SO STOP WHINGING AND GET BEHIND HIM LIKE THE REST OF US! [/quote] I don''t disagree with much of what you say, nc1902, but let''s not blame the messenger for this, as usual. There is no reason to disbelieve the vast majority of the detail reported in the media (certainly locally) about this case. The national tabloids might have gone over the top once again, but the main thrust of the coverage seems to be beyond dispute.

[quote user="WeAreYellows49"]I think it''s called not kicking someone when they are down, something a lot of high and mighty people forget.  He who casts the first stone and all that.  Have you never made a mistake in your life or are you perfect?[/quote] What a pathetic response that is. "He who casts the first stone and all that." Well, I can cast the first stone because I''ve never been done for drink-driving. Or anything else of a similar magnitude. Or should we have had sympathy with Lee Hughes, who caused death by dangerous driving? That was a "mistake", too, wasn''t it? We "kicked him when he was down". Would you cheer anyone who has done anything wrong? Where would you stop? Assault? Murder? Rape? No one is suggesting that Pattison should have been booed or jeered. But it does seem reasonable to query why so many people greeted him as some kind of returning hero.

Today''s results should make for an interesting time on Monday night.

I think we''ll lose 3-0.

[quote user="cityangel"][quote user="TIL 1010"] Why on earth did i mention alcohol when this was meant to be a serious informative post? Kathy and Cityangel are obviously a couple of old lushes and as most men are aware,women and alcohol often do not mix well.As for Kathy drinking real ale i hope she does not bring up the subject of ladies cricket and talk about her KD LANG album collection. [/quote]   Oy you I''ve been called some names before but never an old lush [:)] I''ll see you Monday night!!! Cmon who else is coming to say hello? [/quote] Might do.

[quote user="Kathy"][quote user="jimmy500"] Delia''s how to cheat was actually very good.  I do like a good cookery program. Is the NCISA forum open to season ticket holders/members only or can anyone attend (like me). [/quote] All welcome .£2 entry. Free to NCISA members. All proceeds to the academy. (Kathy isnt averse to a drop of real ale or wine as well as lager BTW!) [/quote] Kathy isn''t averse to a drop of anything, I hear . . .

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]And if anyone going from here wants to buy this moderator a pint you''re more than welcome...[/quote] Only if you buy me one first.

When you look at the fixture run-ins and other teams'' games in hand, things start to look worrying. For my money, it''s going to be a three-way fight to avoid the third relegation place - a fight between Leicester, Sheffield Wednesday and us. Leicester''s four home games are against Hull, Colchester, Sheff Wed and Scunthorpe. And Wednesday have two games in hand over us, and our final game is at Hillsborough.