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  1. LOL I see the top 100 is mainly made up of Town players, including the NO 1 player in the division!!! You lot cant win anything!!!!!!!!!!
  2. The facts are that you can''t afford Ameobi and thats why you have signed Cheddar as a cheap alternative!!
  3. The thing is we all moan at the standard of refs in the championship, but if thats the standard of the refs from the premier league then I think I would rather be in this league! Sure I would laugh if it happened to you lot but the fact is stuff like this is what is making our beloved game becoming closer to netball!
  4. [quote user="Web Team - Pete"] The best fans go to Scunthorpe [:D] Anyway, must call it a night - early start tomorrow for the drive up North... [/quote] Our home support has been poor this season, but I believe we must have the biggest away support in the league, over 3,000 to Charlton (The only team to sell out the away end all season, including london teams), 2,500 to Watford, 1200 to Bristol on a tuesday night, 1500 to Cardiff for a noon kick off, 1100 to Hull fdor a noon kick off, 1,000 to Plymouth (compared with Norwich 550), 2,500 to Qpr etc etc, no side apart from COl who has brought over 2,000 to the Fortress this season!
  5. [quote user="Bury Green"]   [quote] Bury green have you ever heard of Walter Mitty? [/quote] Yes, your point being? Anything I have mentioned comes from either NCFC’s last set of accounts, the Planning Portal at Norwich City Council  (look for Kerrison Holdings) or information that will be very shortly available on the Land Registry website regarding the residential development site.  Take the challenge, prove me wrong? It is becoming repetitive that when you are faced with solid and substantive facts you fail to respond with anything remotely intelligent, a word of advice, when you turn up to a gun fight make sure you have something more than a Swiss Army Knife. To conclude, my point was echoed by a former director of NCFC recently, namely that the club could easily refinance and make considerable funds available given the balance sheet strength of the club.  Moreover, when considering the  duration of term loans and other assets in subsidiary companies NCFC remains extremely financially secure, in my opinion far to secure.  Not something you need worry yourself about either now or in the future. Let’s try this one more time in easy bite sized chunks, if your house is worth £200k, your mortgage is £100k how much equity do you have?  NCFC has lots, you do not. What on earth has Walter Mitty got to do with this or are you referring to cockney rhyming slang as let’s face it chump you sure as hell are a complete one but thankfully you are proving to one and all why you are well worth keeping on this message board.   [/quote] Nothing to do with cockney rhyming slang!!  Does any of the below sound familiar to you? Mitty is a meek, mild man with a vivid fantasy life: in a few dozen paragraphs he imagines himself a wartime pilot, an emergency-room surgeon, and a devil-may-care killer. The character''s name has come into more general use to refer to an ineffectual dreamer, appearing in several dictionaries.[1] The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Walter Mitty as "an ordinary, often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs."
  6. [quote user="Bury Green"][quote user="clblue"][quote user="Bury Green"][quote user="clblue"][quote user="Bury Green"] ClBlue, the living proof that all men are certainly not equal, a man so far removed from reality he has an imaginary friend called Trevor,  enjoys connecting 9V batteries to his fillings and prefers the company of small rodents.  None the less the less reading this berks postings are great comedy and are a joy to behold and are to be encouraged, let’s do a CLBlue  in celebration of his intelligent and insightful contributions “I want to owe lots of money to somebody else because that way we are better off, don’t care about the last time my club borrowed lots of money they couldn’t afford and the greater consequences to the community in general.  What is more I want lots more money thrown at the club by way of a new share issue that renders all the other shareholders holdings worthless so I can delude myself that somebody who borrows a million is a millionaire  and we can compete with Chelsea.   The mark of any big club is to regularly get under 20,000 and I am delighted to be part of such a massive and well run club” CLBlue represents a great opportunity to relive the days of yore when local ner-do-well’s were tied into the stocks and had rotten fruit and eggs thrown at them, let this proud tradition continue. No folks this delusional cretin is to be actively encouraged but I’m not so sure about this W8WBA, what on earth does he bother for, get rid of him [/quote] I''m afraid that we are going to have to agree to disagree on matters, I know numerous Town supporters all of whom like myself are shareholders and Well paid professional people, we are all delighted with the deal we have, it''s a totally win-win scenario, as our less successful rivals you will always be bitter and negative towards anything positive that happens to ITFC much as many of ours would be negative if a similar deal happened to NCFC! It''s called rivalry! I have had all the assurances I feel that I need regarding our deal and now look forward to a more stable time ahead! No one knows exactly how things will pan out, but we have spent five years completely off the footballing radar competing with stupid little teams, the time has now come for us to regain our premiership place which is where we should be! [/quote]   Quod erat  demonstratum Your delusion knows no limit unlike your use of the English language, given its chronic paucity I’m guessing you don’t charge much for which ever service it is you offer.  Hold on a minute, given its Ipswich we are talking about I think I might have  an idea what this service might be, you naughty boy. I know numerous Town supporters all of whom like myself are shareholders and Well paid professional people Tell me, you seem to believe that if you repeat something often enough it becomes the truth. Unsurprisingly I also know a number of Ipswich Town share holders who are anything but happy with this deal and are deeply concerned that Sheepshanks was so desperate to have his directors guarantees removed after your administration he took the only offer available to him and whilst it might well be in his best  interests it certainly isn’t in the best long term interests of the club.   [/quote] As I said we will agree to disagree, the deal got unanimous backing from shareholders both large and small, I think I will go along with the MAJORITY rather than  listen to the deluded ramblings of a bitter rival supporter who''s judgment is clearly clouded by both his hatred for all things ITFC and his own clubs major shortfalls! [/quote]   Fantastic, superb and  absolute proof of the point I made earlier, namely that you must be retained on this message board at all costs.  Every village needs its idiot and you sir are that man, you are to be cherished. My own clubs shortcomings are certainly not financial but I suspect like others on this message board you read into and believe the weekly column by Doomcaster who sole aim is to ‘down manage’ the expectations of the supporters.  What you won’t understand is that NCFC’c balance sheet is not only understated (and considerably so) but also considerable, over £17m if my memory serves me well. So what does this mean?  Well to a simpleton like you it means that with a change in policy from the joint majority share holders NCFC could make considerable funds available to the manager without resorting to flogging the club to a ‘hedge fund in a frock’ this to me is far better place to be.  Furthermore a cretin such as you wouldn’t understand that a subsidiary company of NCFC’s has also achieved another detailed planning consent for further residential development of the clubs freehold interests.  As foot note I have had access to details of a comparable sized site and transaction in the city (I am involved further down the chain) and the deal has just been sealed at £14m. So there you have ‘oh inadequate one’ whilst our current incumbents have managed the value of their asset very well indeed do not be fooled that you are suddenly ‘the wealthy club’ in East  Anglia.  All that has been proven is you lot see the need to broadcast your business as some sort of infantile ego trip for the masses whilst the more savvy amongst us prefer to keep our cards slightly closer to our chests. Run along and play with the little boys   [/quote] Bury green have you ever heard of Walter Mitty?
  7. [quote user="YankeeCanary"]clblue wrote, "I am a season ticket holder and a shareholder of ITFC so I would like to think I know more about our affairs than you do sir! Part of the deal and if you don''t chose to believe it feel free to look it up on our official website, is that no payments will be made from ITFC to the MEI group until we have spent five years in the premier league, this is a fact not my opinion! As for getting what we deserve, promotion isn''t certain just yet, but boy do we have one hell of a chance now!!! Enjoy league 1!"   clblue, I personally hope for the day that both Norwich and Ipswich enjoy a sustained run in the top division. When I first joined this message board 4 years ago I pointed out, that for a number of reasons it would be increasingly difficult for either team to achieve in the future anything close to the level of success both teams had enjoyed in the past. I said, at the time, that this did not bode well for East Anglian football supporters seeing top level football ( including European participation ) in the future. I think the struggles encountered by both teams in subsequent seasons, both from a results and financial perpsective have proved me right. While you are doing better than anticipated this season some of your input does sound a little smug. Perhaps that''s understandable relative to the terrible start that Norwich has had. There is no doubt that you have done remarkably well at home. To remain a candidate for promotion however ( and certainly automatic promotion ) will require consistency over the run in to the end of the season. Your away record is not only sadly lacking what''s required for a promotion chasing team, but is by far and away the worst record in the division. If the home results start to slip ( such as it did against Scunthorpe ) you will start to slip back a few places and your smugness may come back down to earth. Of course your hopes are that you will sign two or three good players and improve from here on. That''s every clubs dream no matter what division they are in. All I will say with respect to your recent takeover is what I would say about most recent new investment that''s hovering in this division. It is no surprise that most new investors are attracted to clubs that have the greatest financial difficulties. It''s for the same reason that bargain shoppers are attracted to going out of business sales. There''s a better chance of buying something at a low price and putting the profit in your own pocket. If you can bear that in mind as the next season or two develops then you will be less likely to elevate your hopes to an unrealistic level.  [/quote] How did our home result slip against Scunthorpe? We beat them! is this some other type of norwich logic, like having money is bad, being broke is good, winning is bad, losing is good!!!  
  8. [quote user="Bury Green"][quote user="clblue"][quote user="Bury Green"] ClBlue, the living proof that all men are certainly not equal, a man so far removed from reality he has an imaginary friend called Trevor,  enjoys connecting 9V batteries to his fillings and prefers the company of small rodents.  None the less the less reading this berks postings are great comedy and are a joy to behold and are to be encouraged, let’s do a CLBlue  in celebration of his intelligent and insightful contributions “I want to owe lots of money to somebody else because that way we are better off, don’t care about the last time my club borrowed lots of money they couldn’t afford and the greater consequences to the community in general.  What is more I want lots more money thrown at the club by way of a new share issue that renders all the other shareholders holdings worthless so I can delude myself that somebody who borrows a million is a millionaire  and we can compete with Chelsea.   The mark of any big club is to regularly get under 20,000 and I am delighted to be part of such a massive and well run club” CLBlue represents a great opportunity to relive the days of yore when local ner-do-well’s were tied into the stocks and had rotten fruit and eggs thrown at them, let this proud tradition continue. No folks this delusional cretin is to be actively encouraged but I’m not so sure about this W8WBA, what on earth does he bother for, get rid of him [/quote] I''m afraid that we are going to have to agree to disagree on matters, I know numerous Town supporters all of whom like myself are shareholders and Well paid professional people, we are all delighted with the deal we have, it''s a totally win-win scenario, as our less successful rivals you will always be bitter and negative towards anything positive that happens to ITFC much as many of ours would be negative if a similar deal happened to NCFC! It''s called rivalry! I have had all the assurances I feel that I need regarding our deal and now look forward to a more stable time ahead! No one knows exactly how things will pan out, but we have spent five years completely off the footballing radar competing with stupid little teams, the time has now come for us to regain our premiership place which is where we should be! [/quote]   Quod erat  demonstratum Your delusion knows no limit unlike your use of the English language, given its chronic paucity I’m guessing you don’t charge much for which ever service it is you offer.  Hold on a minute, given its Ipswich we are talking about I think I might have  an idea what this service might be, you naughty boy. I know numerous Town supporters all of whom like myself are shareholders and Well paid professional people Tell me, you seem to believe that if you repeat something often enough it becomes the truth. Unsurprisingly I also know a number of Ipswich Town share holders who are anything but happy with this deal and are deeply concerned that Sheepshanks was so desperate to have his directors guarantees removed after your administration he took the only offer available to him and whilst it might well be in his best  interests it certainly isn’t in the best long term interests of the club.   [/quote] As I said we will agree to disagree, the deal got unanimous backing from shareholders both large and small, I think I will go along with the MAJORITY rather than  listen to the deluded ramblings of a bitter rival supporter who''s judgment is clearly clouded by both his hatred for all things ITFC and his own clubs major shortfalls!
  9. [quote user="BigFish"][quote user="IanGale"] Please, canaries, don''t let your bitterness consume you.  Yes, the Evans deal is far from perfect (I''d like to see at least one photograph of the guy who owns us) but here''s the thing: we owed 30mill to external groups which we couldn''t afford to pay. We now owe 30mill to internl groups - i.e. Marcus Evans. However he slices up the debts/tax benefits is his decision. What is clear is that when the NU interest payment holiday ran out we would have been in serious trouble. Garvan, Haynes, Lee, etc. would have to have been sold. Now we don''t have to sell anybody and are in a position where we can buy players. So, undeniably, in terms of this season, the here and now, we are in  better position with Evans on board. We got to 6th position playing good football without him... who knows where his money will take us? [/quote] Fair point, probably the only deal in town (lol) in the short term. Beggars can''t be choosers in this situation. You''ll soon get used to this board if you post again - many posters will take a nugget of info from a situation where the facts arn''t public and they don''t really understand and build a massive doomsday scenario out of it. Oh, and some are so desparate to get rid of Delia that they would have taken the Evans deal!! [/quote]   You are correct bigfish we couldn''t be to choosy, very rarely in buisness are major deals 100% the way you would want them, there is always give and take from both sides and this deal is no different! Overall though we are in a far stronger position to compete in this division than we were beforehand so it''s a good deal for us!
  10. [quote user="ManchesterCanary"] Glenn Roeder and team are doing as good a job as possible under the circumstances...but what a job they have to turn our fortunes around! Some of the games where we have scraped a win recently cannot be allowed to paper over the very wide cracks in our whole set up. Our squad is so poor...a strong reserves team losing 1-5 to Ipswich tells me more about our short term prospects than a scrappy point against Colchester. Its not just England that needs a real root and branch review but us as well. With a few clubs in the Championship receiving big money it looks like we are here to stay for a while...if we are fortunate! Someone recently on this board incredibly asked if we could yet make the playoffs!! I think a distinct reality check is much needed by some. Fortunately we have a good manager who likes youth and who can turn things around, but unless we get investment I realy think it will be like turning a supertanker in the open seas...very slow. [/quote] It is refreshing to see that some of you are realistic about your prosepcts, I would agree that Roeder seems to have done well so far, the problem is that you have a borrowed team and are not guaranteed to keep all of those players, your fringe squad as demonstrated against our youth team is nowhere near good enough! I do think though that if you can somehow scrape a couple of million together for Roeder he will be able to sign the players you need to get you away from the bottom 3 and towards mid-table!
  11. [quote user="Bury Green"] ClBlue, the living proof that all men are certainly not equal, a man so far removed from reality he has an imaginary friend called Trevor,  enjoys connecting 9V batteries to his fillings and prefers the company of small rodents.  None the less the less reading this berks postings are great comedy and are a joy to behold and are to be encouraged, let’s do a CLBlue  in celebration of his intelligent and insightful contributions “I want to owe lots of money to somebody else because that way we are better off, don’t care about the last time my club borrowed lots of money they couldn’t afford and the greater consequences to the community in general.  What is more I want lots more money thrown at the club by way of a new share issue that renders all the other shareholders holdings worthless so I can delude myself that somebody who borrows a million is a millionaire  and we can compete with Chelsea.   The mark of any big club is to regularly get under 20,000 and I am delighted to be part of such a massive and well run club” CLBlue represents a great opportunity to relive the days of yore when local ner-do-well’s were tied into the stocks and had rotten fruit and eggs thrown at them, let this proud tradition continue. No folks this delusional cretin is to be actively encouraged but I’m not so sure about this W8WBA, what on earth does he bother for, get rid of him [/quote] I''m afraid that we are going to have to agree to disagree on matters, I know numerous Town supporters all of whom like myself are shareholders and Well paid professional people, we are all delighted with the deal we have, it''s a totally win-win scenario, as our less successful rivals you will always be bitter and negative towards anything positive that happens to ITFC much as many of ours would be negative if a similar deal happened to NCFC! It''s called rivalry! I have had all the assurances I feel that I need regarding our deal and now look forward to a more stable time ahead! No one knows exactly how things will pan out, but we have spent five years completely off the footballing radar competing with stupid little teams, the time has now come for us to regain our premiership place which is where we should be!
  12. [quote user="kick it off"]Check out his wikipedia - i can''t imagine who edited it *cough* *cough* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Evans [/quote]   Not sure what you are implying but that piece has been the same since I first googled it back in October, it doesn''t really tell you much because nobody really knows very much!
  13. Sorry to spoil your dreams, but Marcus Evans can''t reclaim any money from Town until we have spend 5 years in the premier league! So to say his in it for the short term would be rubbish, he can sell the club when he likes but the £32 debt can ONLY be sold for the price he gave for it, i.e £8m! Evans only wins if we get promotion, we only win if we get promotion, otherwise yeah in a couple of years certain players might be sold, but that has always happened at clubs the size of Ipswich and Norwich the better players eventually get sold! All in all our interests are very much protected and whilst it may not be the perfect deal (complete wiping out of the debt would have been ideal) we are now stable and can sign players for reasonable fees and wages!
  14. [quote user="kick it off"][quote user="clblue"] [quote user="City1st"]Poor old binner, now obliged to making up stuff to reply to. Where did I say you would not be spending a penny ? You''ve scaled down massively from the supposed £12m that was available. There are many assets that can be stripped, there is the income (albeit dropping faster than your collapsing spaniard) player''s contracts and the training ground. MEI, who are linked to corporate hospitality, can easily use poorman road for free and do what they wish - they own you. Whether you can afford it is not here no there either. It will be determined by your new owners. They want the money, they will take it. If you think they have stumped up that amount of money to help fulfill the wishes of a few thousand gormless farmhands then you are stupider than your posts on here would suggest. [/quote]   City 1st, we have NO money for ME to reclaim, in case you didn''t know you earn peanuts for being in the championship, like i said the only POSSIBLE way he will ever recoup any real money is if we get established in the premiership, because A/ That is the only place we will earn any money for him to recoup and B/ we have a LEGALLY BINDING contract that states this! Why can you not grasp this?   We know we won''t spend the majority of the £12m we never thought we would, however it means we don''t have to sell Garvan, Haynes, Walters etc and as we already have a more than adequate championship squad we can just reinforce what we already have for a couple of million!   It''s a great scenario for town why can''t you just be happy for us??????????? [/quote] The main reason we are not happy for your sham of a club is because of fans like you CL. If you had come on here and been humble and respectful like locket then no-one would have a problem with you. But you didn''t, you came on here shouting your  mouth off so you reap what you sow imo. There is NO LEGALLY BINDING contract in place that MEI can''t take the money til you have been in the Prem for 5seasons. This is utter nonsense. You sir, are a moron, you are not contributing anything constructive, but rather trying to wind people up. Both sides have differing opinions. Time will tell who''s right. If you do go bust under Evans stewardship, note that you were warned, and you will not get any sympathy from this side as your lot deserve everything they get. [/quote]   I am a season ticket holder and a shareholder of ITFC so I would like to think I know more about our affairs than you do sir! Part of the deal and if you don''t chose to believe it feel free to look it up on our official website, is that no payments will be made from ITFC to the MEI group until we have spent five years in the premier league, this is a fact not my opinion! As for getting what we deserve, promotion isn''t certain just yet, but boy do we have one hell of a chance now!!! Enjoy league 1!
  15. Fans eye  The thing to remember though is that when we went into admin our debts weren''t wiped out, thi £32m isn''t new debt gained since admin it is debt that we would have been punished for had the rules been different back then! If a club can reuce out their debts through negotiation with large companys then I can''t see anything wrong! Trust me as a Town supporter we have been punished adequately because of our debts, we have sold all of our best players for next to nothing to try and make ends meet, in footballing terms we were set back by 5 years because of our debts! Had we been able to keep the likes of Daren Bent, Marcus Bent, Ambrose, Holland, Hreidarson etc then we would almost certainly have been in the premier league by now! City 1st/Bolshie Budgie I see no reason to enter any more debate with you, it''s clear that despite whatever facts are thrown in from of you, you are still going to choose to believe your own twisted mind telling you not what is happening but what you really HOPE happens to us! 90% of Town fans are over the moon with this investment, you can''t please everyone but on the whole we are delighted and if we can bring in the right players then we can enjoy a great season this year, can you honestly say the same?
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