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[quote user="NormanBirder"] docherty''s been yellow carded for a foul on the edge of the area Cum on city sounds like they are absaloute rubbish today [/quote] <<giggles>>

[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="Tickers"][quote user="1st Wizard"] I''m probably over worrying Mark, but a point at Watford would help calm me a bit, but as some teams have a game in hand over us, and a better goal difference, I''ll still keep one eye on the bottom 3 results. [/quote] You got your point at Watford. Are you going to stop trolling? [/quote] I don''t do trolling newbie!.  [:|] [/quote] Oh, hark at Mr. Postcount......

Another waste of bandwidth.... try here;   http://www.pinkun.com/cs/forums/1179281/ShowPost.aspx

[quote user="PurpleCanary"]Pink ''Un headline (in BIG type): "Clark to face former suiter" This can only mean that Chris Coleman used to make our assistant manager''s suits. Perhaps we could get him to design next season''s kit as well.[/quote] Nah, that would be Graham Tailor.....

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Mr Turner said upon joining Delia''s club that he saw no reason why football clubs should run at a loss. Go figure. Or spin. Cue Walphy or *ee. OTBC   [/quote] Pointless post, give BBB a huge wooden spoon for inciting others to respond. Mods - please delete thise attention grabbing post and it''s creator.

  LGT - Could you not have cut''n''pasted GR''s quote into your topic title? That way at least it would have made sense.....

[quote user="jas the barclay king"] [quote user="I. Shurmer"]So, what''s your opinion on Marshall''s save from Dublin then Jas? Or the other couple of quality saves he made that night? The guy is 22, and we all know most keepers don''t peak until their late 20s/early 30s. The potential is there, and I agree he needs to work on certain aspects of the game, but he has pulled off some absolutely incredible saves this season. To call him an awful goalkeeper... well, that''s stupidity beyond belief. Do you think you could point out where he has "cost us goals", and perhaps compare it to where he has "saved us goals with outstanding saves"? I''m fairly certain the latter column would be just a little greater... and besides all that, isn''t he in the top three keepers this league according to the OPTA stats? [/quote]   and OPTA go to EVERY game and watch EVERY player do they? his run into the opta top 3 co incided with our 13 game unbeaten run... im of the opinoin they base their "stats" purely on results... I doubt they have people at every game counting every single possible statistic... how many people would they need to hire to do that?  Ok so he is a good shot stopper.. thats never been in doubt.. but then find me a keeper that isnt... He doesnt command his area, his distribution consists of a 1 dimensional punt forwards, he doesnt come from crosses, he''s slow off his line, he doesnt put a man on the frint post at corners (how many have we conceded this season in that way?) i could go on but wont.. Also, he was 3rd or 4th choice at Celtic for the most part.. have a think as to why.... jas :) [/quote] jas - FYI, OPTA analyse the video for each match and mark each player with positive or negative marks depending on the action performed ( eg: a goal scores high, a red card would generate a negative score ). They have a huge amount of operatives who take 5-6 hours to analyse one match, they are highly trained and you must remember that there is only one ball to follow. OPTA are a huge company, they don''t make things up.....

[quote user="sandboy"]All Roeder will do is clear out the youngsters who has not given a chance to so he can pull in some more premiership young crap next season and delude some of you into believing that they are great players. It appears that Gibbs was faultless last night and never put a foot wrong . Rather than reading about who is leaving I would prefer to know who he is going to try to sign so we can have real go next season.All these chat about some boys on two bob a week leaving is deflecting from what real ambition does the club have.[/quote] After managing to decipher your post I realised that the bit about Gibbs was supposed to be humorous.......well done, have a gold star! I don''t think anyone actually believes that the loanees are "great players" but I am sure that the majority of fans would like to take Bertrand, Evans and possibly Pearce on a permanent basis. As for reading about who GR would like to sign have you not seen the list of player targets he published including how much he was prepared to offer?

[quote user="baldyboy"]i wouldnt say he doesnt know what hes doing, but why does everybody assume we cant go down? we have had an excellent run of 2 defeats in 16 games but, and this isnt me be a doom monger just realistic, we can just as easily go on a run of say one win in our last 12 games whilst other teams below us pick up points so Roeder aint achieved the miracle yet!!!![/quote] On your reasoning Colchester could still win the Championship! Of all the mid-table teams we seem the most likely to consolidate our position there or actually gain one or two places.

[quote user="lucky green trainers"][quote user="bunny"] [quote user="lucky green trainers"]£1m was probably his budget in the jan window!!! and definitely more than he spent......... [/quote] It was probably a lot more than that actually.... [/quote] there seems to be a funny smell hanging around me, oh - its you bunny!!! lighten up you ole git...and stick to your facts!!! [/quote] Just righting your wrongs... (or should that be flights of fancy?) - Stick to facts? You are the one constantly bandying facts and figures around and never backing them up with any form of evidence.

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Karl Pilkington"] Over rated. Just back from injury, would be okay, but not Alan Shearer Mk II. The scum also have something to play for, we don''t. Us signing him onloan now would be a waste of cash. We''d get much more value for money from Ched. Roeder tried to sign Rasiak and Taylor in the window but was unsuccessful. That shows there is cash to spend. [/quote] LMTO... he tried and he failed... Money to spend??? Don''t make me laugh!!! [/quote] You are not stupid Smudger, you know the reasons why neither of those players were signed. It would be nice if you actually shut up for once instead of trying to antagonise with your lies and misleading statements.

[quote user="lucky green trainers"]£1m was probably his budget in the jan window!!! and definitely more than he spent......... [/quote] It was probably a lot more than that actually....

[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"] What''s wrong with you Johnnie? All work and no play? [/quote] No playtime? Detention again....

I really like GR''s dry wit and for those who see his remark as an insult can I say "Get a life!"?

[quote user="Smudger"] Greetings to friends and foes alike. Cluck did indeed get barred and when he discovered this he simply sent a "no hard feelings" email to the moderator who did it. No fuss...no tantrums. That''s what grown ups do and life goes on.   As for returning under a "pseudonym"?... I suspect that Cluck would rather remove his genitalia with a rusty bread knife and call himself Mary before that would happen...and the same goes for "moderating" his opinion to suit others.  For those who felt able to understand and play along with the banter he sends his regards...whereas for those who are so lilly livered and full of themselves he simply sends his sympathies. Real life must indeed be very difficult for them. There will be no return for Cluck in any way, shape or form unless by invitation from those who felt brave and powerful enough to silence him.  That however would take real courage wouldn''t it?    Deliberately pompous, he stated more than a few hard facts which others found too difficult to observe...and on reflection....even allow to be read by adults it seems. Looking back...he wasn''t too far out on what he said was he? [/quote] What a load of clap-trap! This is a message board for a respectable local sports paper if anyone had forgot, not a fansite where anything goes. Moderation is in place to stop the insulting or libellious remarks. As for the bit about "Real Life", just ask yourself the question; would you go into a room full of strangers and start insulting them if they did not agree with your views? We are strangers here, it''s not the same as having a bit of banter with your mates down the pub after the game. And Smudger, once again (because you obviously can''t quite understand it) - Cluck did not get banned for "stating hard facts"!

[quote user="......and Smith must score."] Just been reading an item on the '' Pink-Un '' web-site that claims Norwich and Ipswich have the second most bitter rivalry in English football... In the survey, by the New Football Pools - whoever they are - shows that City and Town fans dislike their '' friends '' down the road more than Liverpool despise Man Utd Pompey hate Southampton and Newcastle loathe Sunderland. Quite how reliable all this stuff is is open to doubt as they''ve somehow included Cardiff''s well chronicled relationship with Swansea in a survey of English football fans, but there must be some truth in it. We all think our hatred of our local rivals is tops but I remember a couple of seasons ago a Luton Town clown ranting outside the '' Coach '' that we could forget all about Rangers v Celtic and Millwall v West Ham......... Luton v Watford was the one ! Now that really take the biscuit.... Incidentally, we8wba, you will be pleased to learn that Wolves fans '' love '' of WBA is top of the league ( even if your team can''t quite manage the same )   [/quote] I would suggest that Cardiff and Swansea were included because they play in the English League.

[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="cityangel"] [quote user="Burton Canary"]I am a supporter of over 50 years and having watched last weeks match, despite the win I thought we were dreadful; we could not pass the ball to save our lives. It is of no surprise that we lost today as the team selection which included the very light weight Gibbs just asked to be walked over; and it was. It  is apparent that Roeder is comprising the club to satisfy his desire and personal commitment to play the loan players with disregard to their performance. If any fan believes we out of the mire, jut look at the next four games that could and probably will put us back into the relegation positions. As for taking this under performing team away to Spain for a jolly just beggars belief. Yes Roeder has done well, but he above all people he needs to keep his feet on the ground, and as a priority get a loan striker in like Craig Beatie as a matter of urgency, otherwise it will be down to winning away at Shef Weds on the last day of the season, and we all no what[: the outcome will be!! [:(][/quote]   I also have a problem with the loanees being played and rotated even when they haven''t performed in a previous game. Gibbs and Henry just aren''t any better than what we have and just shouldn''t be in the squad. You have to wonder what would have happened if the board had given Roeder £4m - £5m in January to buy a decent striker, midfielder, central defender and left back instead of the 7 loanees. Would we then have made the play offs? [/quote] I agree CA.... Unfortunately the club doesnt have any money to give... even £1 million for roeder to cover 1 problem position (striker) would of meant 1 less Loanee.... I said at the tiem Roeders hand was forced and i stick by it.. theres no money so its ''make do'' time...   jas :) [/quote] Which striker were we going to buy for £1M?

[quote user="Mello Yello"] [quote user="bunny"]1st Wizard you and your ilk look for any excuse to have a right good whinge when we get the wrong result. Perhaps if the team had not gone to Spain then maybe the result may have been much worse? I bet when you heard they had gone to Spain that you desperately hoped for a defeat today so that you could up your post count and score brownie points with the rest of Moan Utd. ?[/quote] ......and you of ''your ilk'' would ''big up'' and ''butt-kiss'' the board, even if they saw us relegated......with the rest of ''Apathetic Athletic.'' [/quote] Where do I mention the Board in my statement? When results go against us there are a bunch of FMs who will look for any excuse to have a go at the Club; primary targets being the Board, secondly the Manager and thirdly whichever player is scapegoat of the month. As I said, if we had won today then GR would have been applauded for his "brainwave" of taking the boys to Spain. There''s nothing wrong with criticism when there is probably a valid reason for it, but there is no evidence to suggest that the Spanish trip was directly responsible for the defeat yesterday. Perhaps if 1st Wizard had worded his OP better then I would not have found it so objectionable and typical.

Don''t panic, don''t panic, Mr. Mainwaring!

1st Wizard you and your ilk look for any excuse to have a right good whinge when we get the wrong result. Perhaps if the team had not gone to Spain then maybe the result may have been much worse? I bet when you heard they had gone to Spain that you desperately hoped for a defeat today so that you could up your post count and score brownie points with the rest of Moan Utd. ?

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"][quote user="Boot"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="Boot"] [quote user="Arthur Whittle"]More club spin to lure in season ticket holders to renew.[/quote] And this is a problem how exactly? Sorry to blind you with economic science but the more season tickets sold the greater the amount of money available for players. If people believe that we are going to sign large numbers of top quality players (or indeed any top quality players) in the summer they are deluded, there is no way it can happen - there I said it! What may happen is that we might keep a couple of the loan signings on a permanent deal and buy two or three good (but not exceptional)players to strengthen the squad.  There may even be some more capital investment in the ground (shock horror!).  In short exactly the same as every other year in the past and exactly the same as every other year going forward.  [/quote] I agree,the more season tickets sold the more spent on players in theroy but explain to me how clubs like Stoke manage to spend more on players than we do? Kind of proves a point about ambition. Why have we the most season ticket holders in the league and yet we still spend less than many clubs. [/quote] It would certainly be a good point if Stoke did indeed spend more on players than Norwich over a given time period.  We have been getting decent crowds for about the last 5 years or so - maybe a bit longer, and I have no idea how much Stoke have spent on players over the last 5 years but I would be more than surprised if we hadn''t spent more during the same time - which would kind of prove my point not yours don''t you thnk? [/quote] Stoke haven`t had millions in share issues, a £6.2m land sale, £34m Sky income, they have half our crowds and i can`t recall any big players leaving Stoke for millions. We have sold £18m worth since relegation. I don`t think anyones going to bother doing a pound by pound comparison of money spent but i don`t think there would be a great deal of difference, do you? When they had a top central defender on loan they snapped him up for £1m at the first opportunity whilst we dithered over a few £100k and lost our man. [/quote] Stoke are owned by Peter Coates, try looking him up.

[quote user="lucky green trainers"] do we deserve roeder here??? he sold early in the jan window - and ended up with loanees for his troubles - cos the targets he identified were ''overvalued.''  we all now this is complete and utter bollards - cos if roedy was handed £4m in the window, he would''ve spent it - rather than draft in young prem boys.  my view is that roeder will have £2-3m in the summer window, if he''s lucky, and that means scrabbling around in the bargain basements - identifying promising youngsters, free agents and loanees.  its called doing a watford, and no-one should be surprised, cos thats all we can afford.  does it match roeders ambition???  by the tone of the statements coming outa carra rd recently, i think theres work to do between now and the end of the season to bring in the extra finance we need to properly compete in this league.  at the mo, i thinks its reasonable to assume there''s a mistmatch in ambition (in terms of finance'' - no one should underestimate the size of doncasters black hole.  [/quote]   Show us the figures for this "load of bollards" that we all know because it seems that only you know the true state of finances at Carrow Rd. If you can''t come up with some figures then please stop stating it as fact....

[quote user="nutty nigel"] I would imagine it''s something to do with that little link at the bottom right hand corner of the posts that say''s "report".... ....I think that''s there for posters with thin skins, it gives a third option after reply and ignore. There are cry babies on this forum from all points of view and it''s not difficult to work out who some of them are. [/quote] I have hovered over that "report" button as well, not because I have been deeply offended, but because I think that this Forum has a certain standard which I think some FMs have breached in the past. There are other Forums dedicated to NCFC (not too far away) where you can swear and cuss as much as you like, only thing is I don''t think the likes of Cluck and Smudger have got the backbone to go there as regulars.

[quote user="Tumbleweed"]Smudger not plainly insult people? He/she/it was the worst of the lot for unpleasant vitriol and abuse on a regular basis to anyone who disagreed. Almost every attempt at proper debate got sidetracked into personal tirades and I would reckon it put a lot of people off. Good riddance to both.[/quote] Could not agree more, I really can''t understand how he gets away with the name-calling and insults. If anyone was banned it should have been him.

Don''t miss them at all. I''m all for a reasonable debate but some FMs are too blinkered to actually offer one.