The Saturday Boy

[quote user="The Saturday Boy"]As things stand this could very well be our first team squad come August 10thGK: RuddyRB: WhitakkerCB: MartinCB: TurnerLB: OlssonRM: RedmondCM: TetteyCM: FerLM: PilkingtonCF:GrabbanCF: HooperSubs:BunnGarridoR.BennettJohnsonE.BennettV. WolfswinkelLaffertyThat''s not including the likes of young guns Murphy, Loza or proven championship performers like Becchio or Hoolahan.That''s one hell of a squad for the Championship. Who wouldn''t be confident?[/quote]Bloody hell I left Howson out. Our squad really is strong

As things stand this could very well be our first team squad come August 10thGK: RuddyRB: WhitakkerCB: MartinCB: TurnerLB: OlssonRM: RedmondCM: TetteyCM: FerLM: PilkingtonCF:GrabbanCF: HooperSubs:BunnGarridoR.BennettJohnsonE.BennettV. WolfswinkelLaffertyThat''s not including the likes of young guns Murphy, Loza or proven championship performers like Becchio or Hoolahan.That''s one hell of a squad for the Championship. Who wouldn''t be confident?

Good debate this, I''m enjoying it, just goes to show that 2 different people can see things entirely differently. I have never known a city player like Snoddy though, who seems so admired by many, but then equally as many people don''t rate him.

[quote user="Daniel Brigham"]Hi Saturday BoyDon''t quite get your point that Hull having strikers who are good in the air will benefit from having Snodgrass there (other than from set-pieces). One of Snodgrass''s main drawbacks was cutting inside and looping slow balls into the box, rather than whipping them in first time. Strikers much prefer the latter. Put him in the hole behind a striker who sits on the shoulder of defenders (such as, erm, RvW) , and he would be far more effective. [/quote]Think he will play that position for Hull (or at least An attacking midfield role) as they don''t tend to play with wingers.I actually think some of those balls you speak about (not sure I''d call them slow or loopy) were crying out for a hungry striker to make something out of them in your peice you made the point of how effective he was in that unbeaten run of 2012/13 - when he had a traditional number 9 (Holty) in front of him.I know you don''t agree with me but I truly believe that he is a quality, quality player, and that he will show that at Hull.Time will tell if I''m right

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Can''t put that all down to Henry leaving. The immediate impact of him leaving was a better team due to a more equal spread of responsibilities. They hadn''t won anything in his last three seasons at the club because they were becoming too reliant on Henry and clubs knew that shutting him down, shut down Arsenal. Similar to the way teams knew shutting down Snodgrass meant shutting down Norwich. You could see the influence Snodgrass carried with Norwich even in his short spell at the club, can you imagine any other players being able to snatch the ball away and take a penalty from Ricky? I''m not making direct comparisons between the ability of Henry and Snodgrass, but more the fact their presence made their teams one dimensional. Its undeniable Snodgrass was the most focal player, and the most demanding - which is why he could sometimes lift the team up, but often resulted in other players failing to take responsibility in fear of a verbal. Remember the game where Snodgrass just shouted at Ricky for almost an entire half for failing to get onto a bad pass - Ricky was so angry he needed to be calmed down by other players. Doesn''t suggest a good team mate to me.[/quote]I see your point but I can''t agree with you. He was our ''go to man'' for a reason. He has bags of ability. He is frustrasting at times, annoying at others, but he was the one player in our squad aside from Hoolahan who was genuinely capable of creating something out of nothing. He will be sorely missed, and when he is playing for Hull with better strikers in front of him you will see why .

Sa as I am to see Snoddy go, I can see why the club made the deal. 12 months left on his contract, better to cash in now than to let him leave in 6 months or a year for less of a fee/free. We are well covered down the flanks, but I wouldn''t be surprised if we made a big offer for a creative midfield player with some of the Snoddy money.What some of the less intelligent on here (who seem to have some weird vendetta against our board of directors because they aren''t foreign billionaires who care little about our club or community) need to realise is that this doesn''t mean we are going to sell Fer/Olsson/Hooper/Ruddy as all of these players are on longer contracts, we can afford to tell them to stay for a season and see where we are. If the players try and force a move however, Adams may feel its better to move them on, provided the price is right.Snoddy''s sale does not mean we are suddenly going to start accepting bids from all comers for all of our best players.

[quote user="CDMullins"][quote user="ncfcstar"]I''ve seen the usual trolls and others on here and Twitter/Facebook moaning that we sold Snodgrass, and that is typical Norwich to sell our best players.Since September 2009 we have had the luxury of not having to sell our best players, can anyone name players we''ve had to sell due to a bigger club coming in?  I can''t think of anyone, and to go 5 years without having to do that is absolutely amazing and probably unheard of in our recent history.We''ve been extremely lucky to have had those 5 years, so for ONE player to be sold and these kind of moans and groans to come out is ridiculous.[/quote]In fairness we''ve had very few players with any market value.[/quote]Ridiculous statement.

I for one am sad to see him go. For me those who constantly berated him failed to see what he brough to the team. |He had his limitations, but for the most part they were limitations of the system in which he was asked to play. I loved Snoddy and for me he was our best attacking player, I am sad to see him go and I think it is a great loss. Watch him fly at Hull next season when he has two strikers to feed (both of whom are good in the air)

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Hard to say if Norwich are weaker without him or not. As Dan alludes to he might have been better in a more central role, but as a winger he is one dimensional. He has qualities, but often teams improve when the ''best'' player is removed as there is less focus on one man. When Henry left Arsenal they became a better team, Henry himself said "Because of my seniority, the fact that I was captain and my habit of screaming for the ball, they would sometimes give it to me even when I was not in the best position. So in that sense it was good for the team that I moved on." I feel this also related to Snodgrass - he constantly screamed for the ball and everyone seemed happy to give it to him - whether it was the best thing to do or not.[/quote]Whilst Thierry Henry played for Arsenal they won the League twice, the FA Cup three times, and were runners up for the Laegue 3 times as well as reaching a Champions League Final.Since he left they have won 1 FA Cup (last season) and haven''t seriously challenged for the title or the Champions League. I am failing, despite what Thierry might himself say, to see how they became a better team

just seen it sorry - and if anyone has the right to police this forum, surely its you!

Did anybody watch this tonight? For all their faults, it really made me appreciate our owners and our board much more, and if I was a Cardiff, Leicester or Birmingham fan I would be seriously worried right now. OTBC

[quote user="Mr. Bump"]Home to Liverpool.[/quote]I had a dream the other day that this was the first fixture. Although in my dream we were also playing in green shirts with yellow sleeves and black shorts, Liverpool were playing in white and Paul McVeigh and Mark Robins scored for us. Still I think we won though

 I know a few people in and around Diss who know Upson - he aint a binner, from what I gather he was too obsessed by playing football as a youth to support either Norwich or Ipswich - his loyalties really lie at Luton and Arsenal who gave him a chance in the pro game. His signing makes sense to me - experienced Prem class defender, he could move back home. The only thing I can see holding it up is his potential wage demands :/ - and if he wants tooo much wouldn''t want him here anyway

[quote user="In Dubious Battle "][quote user="The Saturday Boy"]I can''t believe some of you are defending the guy - there is a huge difference in making a racist remak aimed at somebody publicly be it on twitter or on the street, and accidently offending somebody by being ''un pc'' (whatever that means) or having a debate on the rights and wrongs of immigration. The ''you can''t say anything nowadays'' defence doesn''t wash in this case.[/quote]I am not defending him personally, he is clearly pond life, but I do defend his right to state his opinion, however odious it happens to be. There are plenty of city fans who utter the odd racist/sexist/homophobic remark, in fact many of them post on this message board, just check out the ''Its not just football'' section. Are we going to ban them all too? A lifetime ban? The bloke is 22, he is still young, he has only been an adult 4 years and at that age people make mistakes. Not making excuses for him, just think that a little perspective is needed here. [/quote]I think there is perspective needed here... he called James Vaughan a f''ing useless n word. How would you feel if you worked in a pub/shop/any other job working with the public and a customer insulted you in a public arena? I think you would have every right banning them from using your service. The club had to act, and hopefully this will send out the message that racism is not tolerated at our fine club.

I can''t believe some of you are defending the guy - there is a huge difference in making a racist remak aimed at somebody publicly be it on twitter or on the street, and accidently offending somebody by being ''un pc'' (whatever that means) or having a debate on the rights and wrongs of immigration. The ''you can''t say anything nowadays'' defence doesn''t wash in this case.