Just what the Doc ordered

better option than mcveigh surely?

Iv played against jonjo in a county game while he was playing for essex, and he absolutely ran the show. Followed his progress since then and looks like hes going to go all the way. early days though.

Sorry if i have missed something but i haven''t heard anything from the club about young full back sam habergham, which is surprising as a result of our lack of left backs and his England international recognition. Most likely to be injured i suppose. Also it seems fellow youngsters such as lathrope, kelly, renton etc have been left well behind by even younger players such as dumic, stephens and adeyemi who have been taken on tour over them. Will be interesting to see how all players pan out over the course of the season, however i would be surprised if anyone other than; habergham, dumic,stephens, adeyemi or rudd play any part at all. thoughts?

why lie snakepiter?

It seems a common trate for quite a few players to go into the academy and come out actually worse players. Surely the least you should be able to take out of being released is you are a better player for the ''specialist'' training recieved? Seems not. Apparently kenny left to pursue A levels earlier in the year when he realised he was getting no where, and struggled to fit in with the cocky banter involved in the academy. But played when called upon cos striker shortage just stopped training every day. Also how much is someone like Ricky Martin going to be on? a fair wack i imagine.

Yeah i think he is being internationally recognised now by England which is the first outfield player we have had in their for a good few years. Its hard because the players will no only a few of them can make it, and i would agree an ex pro fully understanding what it takes to make it would be more beneficial. However Martin may be an outstanding coach, i dont know, what are your thoughts on him from going to the games? alot of people i know think hes a tw*t and really arrogant? Hopefully out of this squad we can produce 2 or 3 good players for the first team cos anymore is a big ask. I think Adeyemi could go all the way.

Understand your point Birdman but i have mentioned something about this on the ''nick davey being released'' page. Given your knowledge of the academy this season, i was wondering if you could tell me how these players in particular have performed this season; Habergham, Reeves, Stephens/Dumic (whos better?), Francomb, Dawkin. All players who are apparently quite good but dont hear much about. thanks

To be honest Birdman, it seems like your a good friend or family to Davey judging by how strongly you feel about the player and situation. He seems a decent player although nothing more, Kelly provides more attributes needed for the modern game such as strength etc, admitadly not as a striker at the moment anyway. Also how do u no he is being released when he is still being played by the academy and nothing at all has come out of the club regarding this? I would, however agree with you about faces having to fit with the academy. It seems to me like its not what you know its who you know with norwich who are more interested in size and stature rather than natural skill, which given the modern game may be the way they have to do it. Also all the players i have come across seem very arrogant and in love with themselves, whether this is the academy or not i dont know.

But Grant had passion and grit... He done a really great job didn''t he

Superb post. very similar to the post i made on http://www.pinkun.com/cs/forums/1451911/ShowPost.aspx but you seem to get the point cross in a better fashion (Y).

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="canaries_07"] I am a long time reader of this website and generally speaking find it quite interesting.. However, i find this whole huckerby saga strange. Not for one minute am i saying he wasn''t a good player, probably the best i have ever seen in a yellow and green shirt, but all this willingness to have him back seems bizarre after the last two seasons he was here he produced next to nothing performance wise, and was even slated on here by many saying he was past it and was a luxury player offering no protection for the left back etc.. just because he has scored a few in a pi$$ poor MLS he is not suddenly the best thing since sliced bread again. I dont understand mindset of some fans, in my opinion hucks would not give us anything extra other than possibly a feel good factor back into carrow road which could be worth that in itself.. but otherwise i cant see what he would offer, we would be left even more open on the left flank which isnt good for a side conceding atleast two goals a game. and has lost the pace and acceleraion he once had. What if he came back and flopped, would we forget all the good memories of him and get on his back just like we did with Worthy? when now it seems we cant find a manager that will get us above 12th position in the table. In my opinion we need an attacking midfield player with the talents similar to the ones possessed by a certain francis, to make us competitive. MARSHALL---------- SEMI---------KENNEDY----------STEFANOVIC-----------BERTRAND CROFT--------CLINGAN----------NEW CM***-----------HOOLAHAN --------------------LITA---------------SIBIERSKI   looks a good side on paper and should offer a good balance. I ask you just to consider my thoughts altough i am not expecting masses of replys as early posters seem to go un noticed. however if it is written by wiz, jas the barcley man, city angel to name a few, it gets replys but i will put my violin away now lol, just let me no what your views are to hucks and the team. [/quote]   Totally agree.Hucks was a great player in terminal decline, and the time was right, and I have been banging on about the need for a midfielder to go alongside Sammy for ages as Fozzy,Rusty and Patty are not good enough. However,I would go for Bell over Hoolahan. [/quote]   Although easier said than done as quality attacking midfielders are few and far between. but presuming we signed one perm (which isn''t likely without new backing) then 7 out of the starting 11 would be our own players which shows maybe the loan situation is not as bad as first thought. Also, you could be right about bell, and then give the chance for hoolahan to go centre mid to unlock defences from there, while clingan does his dirty work, he may not then suffer from a lack of pace which he does out wide. could be worth a shot? because i really believe hoolahan has a lot of quality but whatever reason we have not seen it yet.

Just wondered the thoughts of fans who regularly attend colney to watch the youth team on who the best prospects have been so far this season? heard habergham adeyemi and reeves are good although reeves is quite often on the bench. also what has happened to manny richardson has he been released?

I am a long time reader of this website and generally speaking find it quite interesting.. However, i find this whole huckerby saga strange. Not for one minute am i saying he wasn''t a good player, probably the best i have ever seen in a yellow and green shirt, but all this willingness to have him back seems bizarre after the last two seasons he was here he produced next to nothing performance wise, and was even slated on here by many saying he was past it and was a luxury player offering no protection for the left back etc.. just because he has scored a few in a pi$$ poor MLS he is not suddenly the best thing since sliced bread again. I dont understand mindset of some fans, in my opinion hucks would not give us anything extra other than possibly a feel good factor back into carrow road which could be worth that in itself.. but otherwise i cant see what he would offer, we would be left even more open on the left flank which isnt good for a side conceding atleast two goals a game. and has lost the pace and acceleraion he once had. What if he came back and flopped, would we forget all the good memories of him and get on his back just like we did with Worthy? when now it seems we cant find a manager that will get us above 12th position in the table. In my opinion we need an attacking midfield player with the talents similar to the ones possessed by a certain francis, to make us competitive. MARSHALL---------- SEMI---------KENNEDY----------STEFANOVIC-----------BERTRAND CROFT--------CLINGAN----------NEW CM***-----------HOOLAHAN --------------------LITA---------------SIBIERSKI   looks a good side on paper and should offer a good balance. I ask you just to consider my thoughts altough i am not expecting masses of replys as early posters seem to go un noticed. however if it is written by wiz, jas the barcley man, city angel to name a few, it gets replys but i will put my violin away now lol, just let me no what your views are to hucks and the team.

I honestly think that eagle is one of the worst players we have ever given a pro contract too. Nothing against the boy but i just dont think hes good enough. plus he is about as quick as my grandad. Never seen halliday play though so cant comment.

Cheer up you bunch of old fogies.. personally, club foot is one of the best entrance songs we have had. Gets me in the mood anyway :) thought there was more than 250 votes? may be wrong tho

absolutly spot on farley, it doesn''t surprise no one has replyed to this.. a hell of alot of city fans appear to go down carrow road on a saturday for one simple reason... to moan!

go away

It seems you are looking to have a pop at grant for everything he does now. Martin played centre midfield the majority of his academy life, so yes he is a midfielder, more so than a striker.

What the..!!??  It was Dion''s fault not marshall''s, but oh no Dion''s mr invincible isn''t he! talk about bleedin favourtism! some people on this board are so fickle, and will find everything negative possible, and for me they arn''t true fans. True fans back the team through thick and thin, something too many norwich fans dont do!

Im sorry but if we had won the cardiff game none of this would of come up, at the end of the day we played well, nd were much the better side, yet two defensive errors cause everyones minds to be blanked. We played some good stuff (particularly first half) and all the players were cheered of at half time. give Grant until xmas at the very least, then judgements can be made. Plus the fact the two lapses in concentration which cost us the goals arn''t down to grant shorely!? I just dont no what more he could of done as hucks clearly isn''t fit enough yet so dont start that malarky. He sent the players out to do a good job which they did (to a certain extent) however, shot themselves in the foot. A change of manager would be a HUGE step backwards! Sheffield united, i believe are one point ahead of us? they have signed alot of new quality players but like anyone (man city the exception) will take time to gel and play well together, i fully expect sheff u to be up there at the end of the season. for goodness sake we are ONE win away from 4th!!!! however i do conceed we have to beat teams like cardiff and hull if we want to go places, but we must stop being so fickle, yeh is great having the amount of support but the amount of ''fans'' who go to games simply to moan moan and do some more moaning is pathetic. They arn''t real fans, real fans will get behind the lads when things get tough! Keep the faith.

To be fair he did say hucks was never ment to play the full 90 never mind the 120 but for reasons out of control such as injuries on the pitch, he couldn''t take him off. He didn''t look match fit to me when he come on anyway. Still its a shame we rely on the man soooo much :(

he played 120 mins at rochdale (much lower quality opposition) to get minutes under his belt, bearing in mind he hasn''t played since way back last season. 120 mins is a long time and his body would have been dead if he had been forced to play the 90 yesterday, you may not realise but the intensity nd work rate at this standard is very high, he isn''t a machine.

I cant really understand what people see in Eagle, yeh hes young but what does he offer the team? he runs slower than my grandad, he gives the ball away alot.Ok he got a decent cross, but is that all it takes to be a profesional footballer these days? maybe im being a touch harsh on the lad but at the age of 20 (21 - not sure?) he should be a more advanced player than the rest of the youth batch, i.e martin, spillane, and he simply isn''t.. thoughts?

Yeh this is exactly what i tohught when i read that bit in the paper. Im scratching my head as to why PG can''t see the problems in defence, hopefully im wrong and we''ll have a new centre back by friday.. But the signs aren''t good are they.

[quote user="topoftheleague"] [quote user="canaries_07"]You say hes been our best player, then why on earth move him when we have at last found a competent right back since edworthy. Besides just because he has pace it does not instantly make him a good winger, it helps but im sure if the other parts of his game where suited to playing there PG would have him playing there.[/quote] Just because he has been our best player doesn''t mean you can''t move him does it? I just think he would get more of the ball if he played further up the pitch, we would be alot more dangerous going forward, he has tremendous pace and i think its wasted playing right back.If you had bothered to of gone and watched us this season you might of noticed the lack of pace up front!  For example Bale was playing left back for southampton and now he is playing for spurs and plays on the left wing. Croft is doing absolutely nothing attack wise so whats the harm and lets here your brilliant suggestion? [/quote] Get your facts straight mate, i have bothered to go to some games, infact iv only missed preston and rochdale tonight. Yeh there is a lack of pace upfront but PG must be addressing that now hpefully in the transfer window. we''v plugged one of the gaps in the team now lets focus on the others such as centre back. Besides i cringe to think of our defence without otsemobor in it. No harm in an opinion mate but i wasn''t havin a go at ya i was actually bein constructive.