GJP

[quote user="Smudger"]  I am scared of us losing but another half of me feels that it may be in the long term best interests of the club... [/quote] I take it you mean that because a defeat would steer us closer to relegation. Relegation has never been and will never be in the best interests of any club in the world. Why? Because there''s never any gaurentee that you''ll go back up.

[quote user="Greg Sayer"] what i meant was that he jumped for the 1st club that came in, he didnt wait for a better club. i heard rumours that the addons for green and ashton were cancelled as compensation for signing grant [/quote] Well West Ham are what you''d call a big club, in the grand scheme of things. Green isn''t up to big 4 standard so West Ham isn''t a bad move at all.

[quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"] Foster may make it as he is still young, but Kirkland shouldnt be anywhere near the squad having been consistently poor this season.   James and Murray are both better keepers and Green better than both of those.   Interesting to see that while Curbs favours Carroll the wet Sham fans have been calling for Green during games. [/quote]   Are you saying Rob Green is a better keeper than David James??

[quote user="apprentice"] I cant believe how few people even have Ryan Jarvis on the bench.  Has he really dropped down the pecking order that much from the lad who was going to be a big star!!! [/quote] Really? Is it that hard to believe? I think it''s become fairly obvious that he''s never going to cut it at this level and that the club probably made him out to be something he''s not. I know some people will argue that he''s had limited opportunities etc but I''m pretty sure that''s because the managers and coaching staff have looked at him and realised he''s not up to it.

[quote user="Steve H"] On a different note I must say that I am pleased to see the back of Robinson, believe me he is no loss to us. Just Thorne, the Doc, MLJ to go now and maybe Hughes & Etuhu if they don''t step it up. [/quote] While I don''t think Carl Robinson is Zizou he''s clearly a decent player. He''s played about (roughly speaking) 250-300 league games at this kind of level and he''s played for his country 35 times. I''m sure City will have better players than him but I''m also sure that we''ve had worse and that we''ll probably have worse again in the future. Not a great or spectular footballer but he''s definitely a decent footballer. I''ll agree on Thorne but I can''t agree on the Doc. If Jason Shackell was the player we brought in and the Doc was the youth academy product then it''d be Shackell that people want rid of. Gary Doherty will always be a better defender and footballer than Shackell and if people can''t see that then they''re blind. MLJ is just unlucky...he was one of the best fullbacks in the league when he played for Forest. Hughes...works hard but passing is far too erratic. And Etuhu obviously has got quality but isn''t very reliable. If we get the reliability out of him then he will become a very good player for Norwich.

I think all 4 outfield players will prove to be a success and I think Marshall will do a job in goal. I really think we need a couple more defenders but I''m not disappointed by any of the signings.

I think Carl Robinson is quite a decent player to be fair to him. But that''s as far as it goes. He plays in the comfort zone...that''s not to say he doesn''t try it''s just that he''s more comfortable playing within his limits. He wins the ball and plays it simple. I always think if Norwich were doing really well he''s the kind of player you''d like to have on the bench. Good luck to the man.

Me thinks it''ll be                          Marshall Hughes        Doc           Dublin       Lappin Croft           Safri          Etuhu         Hucks                          Fozzie                         Brown Assuming that suspensions and injuries are as I expect them to be. Potentially quite a decent side. I expect Hucks to give Leeds a battering.

Pleased that we''ve signed a couple of players but I woud really hope there''s at least 1 centreback on the way and another striker. Ideally another 2 or 3 defenders would be nice. I think it would be a bit foolish not to beef up our options in defence.

[quote user="gareth"]Smudger..your comment regarding the fans deserving relegation is a disgrace. Financially we are not competing, i grant you that, however try getting behind the club and SUPPORT them. If you can''t do that then kindly keep away from carrow road. We don''t need idiots like you there.[/quote] What an absolutely excellent post. All he is is a whinger, from what I can tell he doesn''t have any real love for the game or the club. Sure he dresses it up as the club letting him down and what not but really people who love this game and this club will always try to be positive.

[quote user="a1canary"]  [quote user="cityangel"]Hes just signed a new deal, his wife refuses to move from Norwich and he loves us so ignore that rumour.[/quote] You''d better believe it people. Why? 1. He and his family can stay in the area easily enough if he goes to Charlton 2. He and Grant don''t see eye to eye as evidenced by Grant''s open comments in the press and vice versa 3. Grant has no particular loyalty to him in the way the NW did. As far as Grant is concerned, he''s a useful winger, but a luxury one that can be replaced (Lappin), and an inconsistent striker. 4. He (and Earnie) are undoubtedly the highest wage earners at the club, PLUS he could generate some decent transfer income if he was sold. Sorry to say it but it''s not so far fetched as it may at first sound.  :( [/quote] He''s pretty much one the most dangerous players in our league, he''s worth every penny we pay him in my opinion. Whatever anyone wants to say about Hucks or Earnie being luxury players letting either of them go would be absolute suicide. And there''s just no way in a million years Hucks would leave Norwich for Charlton.

[quote user="San Miguel"] On a slightly more positive note I''m thinking that Colin is probably our best player. His overall effort and ability are second to none, and most importantly he is consistent in his performances. Some will say that Hucks or Earnie is our best player, but IMO, Hucks will always have a problem with his attitude and teamwork (one of the reasons why he is such a deserved cult hero) and Earnie is a bit of a luxury player who is fantastic as a striker but that''s all he is. For me, Colin is our best player right now and I think his position at right back makes his good work go unnoticed by a lot of fans. [/quote] I don''t see there being any issues with Hucks attitude or teamwork. His attitude his spot on, he wants to play for Norwich and you can see that about him. As for teamwork...if Darren Huckerby spent all his time trackin back it''d just take away from his energy to burst forward. When you run with the ball like he does you need to keep your legs as fresh as possible so you''ve got that bit extra to go past a defender. When he gets the ball I think he''s very much looking to do his best for the team.

[quote user="Smudger"] Loughborough Canary...  It is all about results for us now (which we are not going to pick up with this shower of $. hite)...  Everybody seemed to get behind the team tonight (not that it mnade any difference)...  Thi sgetting behind the team thing is yet more club spin...  what the true fans of this club now need to do is admit that people like Wiz, Cluck, Alex, Ricky Knight, Mello, CJF & Co and myself have been right and unite in demonstrating against and freeing us of this board that is suffocating this club of ours!!! Yes Ricky...  We will go down and 99% of our fans will deserve it... NO ACTION against Delia & Co is why we find ourselves where we are today!!!  [:@] [/quote] Are you actually a Norwich City fan? If so you''re at best an embarassment but more truthfully...a disgrace.  

Well it wasn''t the home win I was hoping for but we were by a long long way the better side. If we''d have had Earnie or Dion upfront then we''d have pasted them. There were only 2 poor performers tonight really - Hughes and Crofty. Thought everyone else did well. Martin looked decent when he came on but really he needs someone like Dion upfront with him, I wouldn''t put him in the team for Saturday if he wasn''t partnered with Dublin. Shame we didn''t win tonight but there''s plenty to be positive about.

[quote user="Alex Harvey-Jones"]Can''t see any of these leaving now to be honest! Wouldn''t lose any sleep if Robbo went but we don''t have enough players to let any more leave![/quote] Robinson was excellent tonight.    

Home win. Going to leave for Carrow Road in 15mins. City til I die.

He might play elsewhere at youth/lower levels but if he was to be played anywhere at senior level at the moment it''d have to be right back me thinks. He''s far too lightweight to be a centreback and he doesn''t strike me as being cut out to be a midfielder. Miles off first team standard in general, from what I''ve seen. He''s got time on his side I guess.

[quote user="Smudger"] To GJP...  yes, yes, yes we really are about as far away as you can get from having a team fit for promotion (as the next few weeks will blatantly point out to those of us who are still too blind to open our eyes to reality)....  I am not sure which of the great managers of all time stated that "you finish where you deserve to finish over the course of a season"?   [/quote] There is no doubt that their are faults at the club at the moment. We are by no means perfect. However, most people with a bit of an idea what they''re talking about know that not a lot separates most of the teams in this league. Cardiff are a good example...when Chopra is on form they are a dangerous side and when he isn''t they aren''t. Norwich with the addition of 3 or 4 quality players and a bit of time to gel them in will start to play good football again and will start to look like they could go somewhere. They''ve let themselves and us down this season but provided they sign some quality players in the right positions they''ll start to look again. The squad doesn''t need a complete overhaul it just needs strengthening. We need more strength at the back, more competition for places to avoid complacency and also more strength in depth so that when we lose key players such as Huckerby and Earnshaw we''re not left to call on the likes of Peter Thorne, Ryan Jarvis or Robert Eagle.

[quote user="Ged"] I promise you, NCFC really are FAR, FAR AWAY.... [/quote] No, they''re not. It really is only a case of 3 or 4 quality additions to the side. Too many doom merchants and drama queens on these forums and not enough people with a bit more of a sensible football brain.

Yeah the board are too scared to spend the money. The harsh reality of professional football is that you''ve got to speculate to accumulate. Had they bought Dean Ashton at the start of the season then we would probably have survived. But they didn''t and we didn''t. Norwich were and still just about are in a great position to take the club forward. I firmly believe we are only 3 or 4 quality signings away from being a very good team again. But they have to be quality signings and they will cost money.  

Quite like Neil Adams. Think he''s a sensible chap who knows his football. He tries not to get too carried away one way or t''other. If City do well he likes to play it down to a reasonable level and if they''re not doing so well he doesn''t like to resort to drama queen knee-jerk reactions. He was a good player and I think he has a pretty decent understanding of the game. There''s certainly worse opinions to listen to than his. I''ve often hoped he''d put himself in the frame to be City boss.

I''ll certainly be there. I''m City til I die.

[quote user="wood 4 the trees"]  Doherty is slow, cant pass, ! [/quote] Seeing as you point that out....Jason Shackell is a disgustingly poor passer of the ball for a professional footballer. He''s a hell of a lot worse than Gary Doherty.

[quote user="nutty nigel"] I think you are being a little unfair on Shackell saying he will never be wanted by a bigger club than Norwich GJP. I agree with a lot of your criticisms but Shackell is a young player learning his trade at quite a high level. I think he has the potential to be an excellent central defender, but he needs time and during that time he will make a lot of mistakes. I really believe we should persevere with Doherty and Shackell. Hopefully a stronger and more confident goalkeeper behind them and a stronger midfielder in front of them will help build up their confidence. It would cost the club a lot of money to buy better than these two! [/quote] He will never be an excellent defender and he will never be wanted by a bigger club than Norwich. And even if someone bigger did come in for him he''d never last. Sometimes he ha a run of a few decent games but he''s played a fair bit for City now and he''s still not turned that corner. We need at least 1 stronger centreback, ideally 2.

[quote user="Berks canary"]  A few weeks ago i heard him state looking at the team man by man Norwich should be top of the table !( Only Earnshaw would get a game in any top 6 side ) .   [/quote] Well...no. Darren Huckerby is as good as any player in this league. He is Premiership quality. Safri is one of, if not the best, midfielders of his type in the league. Lee Croft isn''t too far off being a very good player at this level. He''s just trying a bit too hard at the moment. Adam Drury is one of the better fullbacks in the league. Dickson is a very good player when he''s playing with confidence, as is the Doc. And obviously Dion Dublin is proven quality. Carl Robinson is what you''d call a comfort zone player. He''s a good player but he plays safely within his limits. If Norwich were doing well he''s the kind of player you''d have on the bench. Same with Colin, Shackell and Andy Hughes. Norwich really aren''t too far away. Just 3 or 4 players needed to make them a proper force.