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[quote user="kdncfc"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="kdncfc"] Doomcaster may have been partly to blame for the decline of the club but I refuse to believe that he was allowed to make decisions without being given the go ahead by Delia and the board. Things may be run differently now but we will only progress so far without a new owner with more money coming in, there are more youngsters coming through the ranks now than we''ve had for sometime which is good but money will still be needed to sign a bit of quality to supplement them if we get back to the championship. [/quote] Well you may be right but surely we could have saved on the Chief Execs wages if he wasn''t allowed any say. I hope the new one is. I agree that a new owner more capable of investing money is needed for us to progress very far in todays game. I think Smith&Jones agree with that too and have probably been saying it longer than you and I. But I ask again what makes Delia Smith not a fit and proper person to own our club?   [/quote] Can''t see how anyone who goes onto the pitch sozzled on sherry and starts shouting "come on lets be avin you" at 25k people can be classed as a fit and proper person to run this football club lol. On a more serious note maybe not fit or proper was the wrong terminology to use under the circumstances, but imo she''s no longer the right person to run this club because the last few years under her ownership have been a complete disaster and she doesn''t have enough money to take us to where we ought to be. [/quote] I still believe she owns it and not runs it.  

It''s true that where ever you go to watch Norwich there is a big percentage of the support from City fans more local than Norwich. We have huge support and supporters groups all over the country. These fans look forward to games that are local to them. I have often wondered how such great support was formed in the first place because these fans are not all locals who have moved away. Us travelling fans think we clock some miles supporting our team but for some fans all home games are travelling games too. So in some cases they only have one local game a season. As for the 848 I doubt if more than a third travelled from Norfolk.  

Greetings PUPs and welcome to week fifteen of the free bet season. This week it’s our good friend Cosmic Twin in charge and making the final selections. One of our most consistent pickers since joining the season before last when Cosmic really made Ray and I sit up and take notice with seven from nine successful naps. Then last season Cosmic carried on in that vein and has been in tremendous form this season with 11 winning selections in the first 14 weeks.   Now Cosmic is one of our top Pups but will still need all our help to stand a chance of increasing the money we raise for the academy this season. It’s a different challenge that we face this week as it’s international week but with a difference. Most of the international games are friendlies which is a very different kettle of fish to the completive games we are used to selecting from. There are some qualifier play-offs and of course the lower leagues in England and Scotland. I believe it’s worked out well for us this week because I’ve noticed that Cosmic has no particular favourite hunting ground and selects naps from all the leagues available to us.   Once again last night I was proud to watch two more young players from our academy make their first team debuts. Congratulations to Josh Dawkin and Dario Dumic who have directly benefited from the help from FONCY and including the money we have raised on this thread over the years.   So I’ll hand the free bet over to Cosmic now. There’s no pressure, because we are all going to be doing our best to help you get your name in the Free Bet Hall of fame. We all stand together with the single aim of raising money for our great clubs academy. No blame and no shame on the free bet pages.   Good luck all you PUPs... take it away Cosmic... the free bet is yours............[:)]...........   I leave you with Ray''s signature which now reads: - Carve their names with pride.Yankee,3,Fellas,3,P''boro,Mr Chops,NewYork, Inch High, Blahblahblah, NCFC_Shaun, 1st Wazzock, Fonejacker, Norfolkbroadslim, yes Norfolkchance1 £755 for the Academy,so far.  

[quote user="kdncfc"] Doomcaster may have been partly to blame for the decline of the club but I refuse to believe that he was allowed to make decisions without being given the go ahead by Delia and the board. Things may be run differently now but we will only progress so far without a new owner with more money coming in, there are more youngsters coming through the ranks now than we''ve had for sometime which is good but money will still be needed to sign a bit of quality to supplement them if we get back to the championship. [/quote] Well you may be right but surely we could have saved on the Chief Execs wages if he wasn''t allowed any say. I hope the new one is. I agree that a new owner more capable of investing money is needed for us to progress very far in todays game. I think Smith&Jones agree with that too and have probably been saying it longer than you and I. But I ask again what makes Delia Smith not a fit and proper person to own our club?  

Butler my friend... Do you own a season ticket for the Mad Hatters Tea Party[:^)]  

[quote user="kdncfc"] I can''t see how anybody who owns a business that goes downhill so badly under their leadership can still be classed as a suitable person to continue running that business, football has changed but it has to be said that the amount of bad decisions made in the last few years by Delia and her disciples has been totally unacceptable and the situation we find ourselves in should not have happened. Things are looking up this season but if we reach the championship it will become even more imperative that we get a new owner if we are to progress further imo. [/quote] The fact that Delia owns the business doesn''t mean she runs it. As I understand it the business is now run by McNally. There''s no doubt that mistakes have been made and in my view the biggest was not replacing the person who ran the business sooner. In fact would it maybe have been more prudent to have replaced the person running the business a few years ago? But surely none of those mistakes stop Delia Smith being a fit and proper person to own our football club.  

[quote user="The Butler"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="The Butler"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="The Butler"] So to follow that through then T are you saying that the Directors have invested in land, restaurants etc and NOT in the core business of the club? That the club would not be sustainable even without the millions spent on land and in the support of that land. That the money taken from Chase''s land deals has been used to finance other land deals less profitable or stagnant or loss making. Interesting. I am also waiting to see the makeup of the alledged 8.5 million spent "on the playing side" last season and what that covered in total. As an (I assume) accountant you must also await the latest accounts with not inconsiderable interest. [/quote] Indeed Butler! Wouldn''t it be a rum''un if the new Chairman was caught out spinning the facts so early in his tenure[:^)]   [/quote] Like "I have no wish or intention of joining the board" Quote. [/quote] That''s him done for already then. And McNally and Lambert by association! Lapp... where are you, where are you, LET''S BE ''AVIN'' YOU... Because.... We''re doomed I tell ya ... DOOMED[H]   [/quote] McNally and Lambert associated with the Chairman. Now that''s an original thought. So nothing to do with the other board members then. Still I suppose he is entitled to change his mind. [/quote] Well I let''s look at the facts as we know them since relegation. (And note the order of events) 1. Munby and Doncaster resign. 2. Gunn is appointed manager by the remaining board. 3. Bowkett Mcnally and the paperboy are appointed tpo the board. 4. Gunn is sacked and Lambert takes over. Who do you associate with what[:^)] Do you reckon he''ll change his mind as often as Wiz[:^)] [;)]  

[quote user="The Butler"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="The Butler"] So to follow that through then T are you saying that the Directors have invested in land, restaurants etc and NOT in the core business of the club? That the club would not be sustainable even without the millions spent on land and in the support of that land. That the money taken from Chase''s land deals has been used to finance other land deals less profitable or stagnant or loss making. Interesting. I am also waiting to see the makeup of the alledged 8.5 million spent "on the playing side" last season and what that covered in total. As an (I assume) accountant you must also await the latest accounts with not inconsiderable interest. [/quote] Indeed Butler! Wouldn''t it be a rum''un if the new Chairman was caught out spinning the facts so early in his tenure[:^)]   [/quote] Like "I have no wish or intention of joining the board" Quote. [/quote] That''s him done for already then. And McNally and Lambert by association! Lapp... where are you, where are you, LET''S BE ''AVIN'' YOU... Because.... We''re doomed I tell ya ... DOOMED[H]  

[quote user="kdncfc"] [quote user="Bobert"][quote user="Duncan Edwards"]What was she doing there? Was it on telly???[/quote] I think she goes to every game unless she is working or on holiday. A true fan.[/quote] True fan she may be, a fit and proper majority shareholder she most certainly is not. [/quote] Are you now suggesting that Delia Smith is not a fit and proper person to own out club? Highlight the mistakes by all means but some of the stuff posted on here is plain ridiculous.  

[quote user="The Butler"] So to follow that through then T are you saying that the Directors have invested in land, restaurants etc and NOT in the core business of the club? That the club would not be sustainable even without the millions spent on land and in the support of that land. That the money taken from Chase''s land deals has been used to finance other land deals less profitable or stagnant or loss making. Interesting. I am also waiting to see the makeup of the alledged 8.5 million spent "on the playing side" last season and what that covered in total. As an (I assume) accountant you must also await the latest accounts with not inconsiderable interest. [/quote] Indeed Butler! Wouldn''t it be a rum''un if the new Chairman was caught out spinning the facts so early in his tenure[:^)]  

[quote user="Heffers Canary"][quote user="shefcanary"]He was the main club representative at the Leeds game! Probably ambasadorial role at those far distant matches on behalf of the Board who cannot make it![/quote] Delia and Michael were there[/quote] Really[:O] Was it live on BBC Wiltshire[co][<:o)][;)]  

[quote user="Lord Horn"] [quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]He is a fan - so surely no surprise he attends some games?[/quote] True, but I always thought he was a Hull City fan??? [/quote] That''s what some would have you believe. However, as has been pointed out to me constantly, City fans can be other clubs fans before they moved here without it being a problem[;)]  

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]servicing of the loan relating to land speculation comes from the football side of the business.[/quote] Surely it comes from the off-pitch side of the business - if you can''t loan money to buy players or pay wages, surely this money comes from the £20m + loan, which can''t be used to buy players or pay wages ? [/quote] But the whole point of Tangies argument is surely that the debt is serviced by money that should have been spent on the team. I''m not so sure. I believe my friend Tangie is the ''real deal  accounting bod'' as apposed to the fag packet type that normally post. I''m just the ''real deal bingo calling bog cleaning bod''. But I think it all comes down to whether there was any football income left over after the 8.5m player budget last season. If there was then I guess Tangie has a point but I can''t be bothered to look it up. Shame Mr C is washing his hair[:O] (Sorry[:$] - I meant on his hols) [;)]  

But will the odds be longer or shorter after tonights game[:^)] You pays yer money and takes yer chance[H]  

[quote user="Bexley"]To be fair BOTH forwards would have benefited from playing alongside a bigger strike partner, not just Cody.  [/quote] I''d agree with that but in the last round at Gillingham didn''t Curo start alongside Martin but then we scored the winner after McDonald replaced Martin. At that point the front two were Curo and Cody. It just seems to me they are both more effective as impact subs later in the game.  

I reckon our two strikers were much of a muchness last night. The game didn''t suit either and they both always look more effective coming on a subs. Watching games like this makes you realise which positions we''d struggle to cover if we had injuries and how wide of the mark those people are who still see the answer to our problems being a new centrehalf.  

Zipper makes the most points I agree with. And why do we always forget about the FA when we discuss these things. Every football team in the country is affiliated to the FA so we should question their constant crawling to the big clubs much more loudly. They even put their name to the Premiership when it was formed. Is there a two tier membership to the FA. Do they charge more to the big clubs to allow them such a say in what happens?  

[quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="nutty nigel"] Well done to Jamie for scoring his penalty last night. Well done for having pride in the shirt and wanting to win. But it ends there for me because the decision in 2007 to pay the best part of a million quid and give a big three year contract to a 32 year old striker who had spent most of his career at a far lower level than where we were defied belief. It''s football decisions like this that caused our demise. Having Cureton as part of a healthy player budget is part of the reason for us not being able to compete with others who had similar funds last year. You can whine about hotels and spineroads all you like but at the end of the day it was poor allocation of football funding that caused our football failures.   [/quote] Err? didn''t you welcome his signing from Col Who though Nutty? [/quote] I particularly welcomed Curo back because he is a Norwich fan. I have a lot of time for all Norwich fans Wiz, even those that can cook! But what I didn''t welcome was the decision to pay such a big transfer fee for such an old player and to compound that by giving him a big three year contract. I believe that Iwan used to have to earn his contracts when he got to pensioinable age and even when he did he didn''t get three years.  

I was convinced he would score. I''m sure Lambert was too and that''s why he took the 5th penalty. It meant so much to him too. In fact you could see it meant so much to all of them. It was like going all those miles to watch a reserve game up until the pens but to see the pride made up for watching such a poor game. There''s no doubting the spirit we have throughout the squad now and credit for that has to go to Lambert and the coaching staff.  

Well done to Jamie for scoring his penalty last night. Well done for having pride in the shirt and wanting to win. But it ends there for me because the decision in 2007 to pay the best part of a million quid and give a big three year contract to a 32 year old striker who had spent most of his career at a far lower level than where we were defied belief. It''s football decisions like this that caused our demise. Having Cureton as part of a healthy player budget is part of the reason for us not being able to compete with others who had similar funds last year. You can whine about hotels and spineroads all you like but at the end of the day it was poor allocation of football funding that caused our football failures.  

[quote user="cityangel"] [quote user="nutty nigel"] http://www.pinkun.com/cs_pinkun/cs/forums/1799159/ShowPost.aspx Check the date Angel. Colchester was August 8th. I guess it just depends on whether you believe that Delia hunts down the cameras as to whether she has been hiding or not. What have you seen her do that''s different?   [/quote] Guess she wasn''t too worried about attending the Capital Canaries forum as she knew there would only be about 45 people attending so she wouldn''t get such a hard time as she would have done in Norwich with 250 people beying for her blood.[:)] Where was she in the last 3 months of last season? Where was she when we got relegated? When has she ever made a statement to the fans to say ''''sorry we got it wrong'''' To me she just seems more visible when things are going well or the TV cameras are around her. The quicker she goes the better in my opinion, I''ve got no time for her at all anymore. Thats my opinion and that won''t change. [/quote] I don''t know if she chose to go to the Capital Canaries to keep a low profile Angel. You''d have to ask Tim or someone from there. I guess if she usually stayed in Norwich in August but went into hiding at the Capital Forum this year because we lost 1-7 to Cam''s lot then you''d have a point[:)] As I said, I didn''t notice her behaving any differently in the last three months of last season. In fact, as I said earlier in the thread, she was at the Ipswich game in the middle of 2000 passionate Norwich fans who''d just seen their relegation threatened team lose to the enemy. I would have thought that would not be the best place for the timid to hide[;)] I would suggest it''s the cameraman''s choice to make Delia visible. I don''t see games on TV because the usually means it''s been moved from a Saturday so I can go. But what I do see is Delia sitting with thousands of Norwich fans all over the country regardless of whether we are not on TV, losing and getting relegated or on TV, winning and getting promoted. You''d probably get more joy asking the TV companies why they have more interest in filming Delia with the fans at Stamford Bridge in the FA Cup rather than at Priestfield in a League One match. She will go eventually but when she does someone else will have to carry the can when things go wrong. If I was Bowkett, McNally and Lambert I''d be quite happy to leave her where she is. After all, when Worthy got the blame for everything Delia got away scot free didn''t she[;)]  

It''s fine to question it Gingerpele. In fact I welcome it. I have so many PUPs to keep track of now that it would be easy to get stuff wrong. Unlike your favoured Almeria, Barcelona could only draw with Osasuna last week. But that''s the only one you have had wrong in the last six weeks so your picking is in a rich vein of form. Prior to that you were a little hit and miss. However in that time you have moved from 3/8 to 8/14. It''s impressive[Y]  

[quote user="The Butler"]   Wiz carry on mate, you are, like Smudger, a CITY supporter through and through, and this board would be a duller place without you and your changing views for people to have a go at.[;)]   [/quote] Indeed Butler. And you can add City1st/Ralph Wright to that list. In fact all the good old city fans on here. Would be a poorer place without ''em all[:O]  

[quote user="Scooby"] [quote user="Graham Humphrey"]Bloody Charlton, annihilating my 100% record... sulk, mutter... [/quote] Bloody Falkirk! Having the nerve to go and score 3 against Celtic!!  Would you Adam an'' Eve it. [/quote] Burnley having the nerve to score 3 at Man. City did for me. It was just one of those weeks Scooby!  

[quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="nutty nigel"] It''s a little bit of selective memory there Chicken. The last time we went away to non league opposition was under Grant and he fielded the side he''d inherited from Worthy. Gallacher Colin Doherty Shackell Drury Croft Safri Etuhu Huckerby Dublin Earnshaw It would be interesting to see how our current team would perform against them. I was never suggesting and it certainly wasn''t suggested on this thread that we should be "nice" on the pitch. We were proffessional and got respect for that as well as respect for being a nice club off the pitch. We also get huge respect around the country not just for the number of our supporters but also the quality.   [/quote] A thread about Paulton Rovers and even your mate Worthy gets a mention Nutty.Was there any need to add on "and he fielded the team he''d inherited from Worthy". Has anyone said that Lambert fielded the team he inherited from Gunn on Saturday.No,because it is a ridiculous statement to make which has no bearing on the professionalism or attitude taken towards the game in question. [/quote] I don''t know what point you are trying to make Tilly. I was replying to Chickens point that "In previous years that would have been our second string team, this year it was our first team and they got a result that reflected on the gulf between the teams." The reason I said the team Grant inherited from Worthy was to underline the strength of the team and not to confuse it with the team Grant built himself. You remember the one don''t you? The one you and I watched at QPR a few months later.