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  1. Do you lot ever stop moaning? Some of you could seriously whinge for England! We got a game today, a game most of you can actually see.. maybe there will be some players  you will see for the first time? Are you looking forward to it? Or are you still stuck in the past so bad? What if we win again?? Wouldn''t you like that???   
  2. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"]Good luck Fat Prophet, you`re going to need it! I recommend a padded bandage around your head- you can keep banging for longer but unfortunately the brick wall will look exactly the same as when you started.......[:|][/quote] The problem with your brick wall is that it''s trapped you in the past Mr Carrow. You should have got out before it was built or insisted they put a gate in so that you could move backwards and forwards more freely....... [:|]  
  3. [quote user="Fat Prophet"] Birmingham were willing to extend the loan provided we agreed a permanent deal in January, but we didn''t.  We were in pole position and we blew it.  [/quote] How do you know this? The impression I get is that we put in a decent offer for the player, who wanted to come which would suggest we made him a good offer too, but Birmingham wanted to wait until the transfer window in order to try to get the best possible price for their player. I coulod be wrong, you could be wrong, we both could be wrong bt Roeder seems quite happy the board are backing him at the moment.    
  4. How many of those games are before the transfer window opens? Why has there been no criticism on here for not tying the original loan down until the transfer window openes? How many points do we have to get before you accept the improvement is down to a lot more than just one player who was brought in on loan, primarily, to cover for injuries? Apart from not tying the original loan down until the transfer window opens (which doesnt seem to worry you)what have Roeder/Board/Club/Fans done to upset you so much?  
  5. [quote user="Fat Prophet"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="paint_me_yellow"] I''ve noticed theres a sudden re-appearance of a few familiar posters now things are on the down again. Funny that. [/quote] But they aren''t on the down. The last game was that fourth win out of the last five against Sheffield United. What I have noticed is that the board is busier again now posters have got something to moan about. It was oh so quiet for a couple of weeks...... sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [:#] [/quote] Yes nutty, we have got something to moan about.  For the past month or so we''ve been taking a leaf out of the percy positives'' book and starting to hope that improvements on the field were a sign that things were changing for the better in the boardroom.  Perhaps Andrew Turner is calling the shots now? we thought.  Or maybe the real threat of relegation has forced them to give football the priority it deserves?  Get Tiny signed up and we''ll be on road to recovery. So what actually happened?  In his Thursday column Doncaster spouted the same depressing old guff about prudence without actually using the word, and less than 24 hours later the Taylor deal fell through.  That''s why we''re upset.  It''s not just the loss of Taylor, although it does represent a real backward step because the most significant gap in the squad now needs filling again.  But combine it with Doncaster''s comments and it sends the message that nothing has changed after all.  If nothing changes then we''re going nowhere except possibly down to League 1.  Given the board''s past record, it''s fair to say they have some work to do to prove that it''s not a case of deja vu all over again.     Yes we''re upset.  We''re bloody upset because we care about this club and we hate to see it losing its identity, its spirit and its sense of direction.  Have you got a problem with that?       [/quote] What I have a problem with is working out how we can sign a player outside the transfer window. He is Birminghams player and they call the shots. What deal fell through? His loan came to an end and Birmingham refused to extend it. He is now back there until Jan because the loan window is shut to new loans so nobody else can loan him. What I believe is that Birmingham are trying to spark an auction to enable them to get the best deal they can for their player. I am not defending the board and neither am I attacking them and I seriously don''t see where your point of view is coming from. We have won 4/5 and more than doubled our points tally in a fortnight - what part of that equates to being bloody upset because we care about this club and we hate to see it losing its identity, its spirit and its sense of direction.  
  6. [quote user="yellow hammer"] I believe your assumptions that Birmingham are out to get the best possible price for their asset is spot on. And that it makes sense for them to turn us down in extending the loan deal, as is their right to do so. It is good business sense and Brum fans expect their club to look after their interests first. What irks me is that Doncaster''s column was an attempt to manage our expectations. But the way he goes about it is by starting off with "message boards will be buzzing with fans expecting multi-million pound transfer deals" (or words to that effect), which is the sort of throwaway comment that you might expect from some of the more excitable members of this forum, but coming from the Norwich City Chief Executive comes across as patronising and condescending. These are not just isolated incidents either, there are many examples where board members talk as though we are rural oiks and should be grateful for what they are doing. I would love to see them start building a team instead of building roads. They may well be negotiating deals right now, in advance of the January window and I''ll be the first to give them credit for being proactive. But if past experience, and statements from Doncaster, are anything to go on, I suspect it will more of the  make do and mend. policies that finds us at the wrong end of the table. [/quote] We couldn''t have signed Taylor this week. The only thing that could have happened would have been a hush hush agreement with Brum to sign him in January and then get the loan extended but Brum wouldn''t play ball, choosing instead to try spark off an auction in order to get the best price possible. It seems we are in agreement on this even though neither of us could actually know its true. But what I don''t understand why it''s such a big deal what Doncaster says in the press. OK, I can see why some feel it would be better to say nothing but I really can''t see why this seems so much more important than the fact that the team has won 4/5 and been playing good football to boot (pun intended). Now I''m seriously not being patronising because I know I am lucky to be able to attend as many games as I can but it does seem to me that the people who seem to have had their enjoyment of our improvement spoiled by a solitary newspaper column are people who don''t get to see the team play very often. I am trying to work out why that is and I guess just maybe if you aren''t lucky enough or even can''t be arsed to go see the games then every bit of information in the media has more importance. If I am wrong then maybe someone could explain to me why this is such a big deal because nobody has managed to yet.    
  7. [quote user="cityangel"][quote user="blahblahblah"] I think you realise that neither of us are in posession of all the facts on this one Wiz, or indeed any "one" [:)]   [/quote]   These are facts from Roeder''s interview Taylor and family changed their minds and wanted to move We didnt match the asking price Roeder and Taylor are both disappointed What more is there to know? [/quote] The transfer window is still closed?  
  8. I missed out on watching Ken Nethercott play for Norwich but have heard so much about him from those who saw him. He is part of our great clubs folklore especially for playing on with a dislocated shoulder and still saving everything that was thrown at him. RIP Ken.
  9. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"] This whole issue smacks more than a little of Worthingtons` pursuit of Howard being thwarted by the board doesn`t it Nutty? You know, that episode where you were the sole voice of reason pointing the finger of blame at the board when everyone else was rounding on the manager.....allegedly. Yet you still seem to want to support them now? Very strange..... [/quote] Why does it? Has Roeder come out and accused the board of not backing him like Worthington did? Your post doesn''t do you credit Mr Carrow. It''s the sort of post I have to put up with from Wizard or Babes. I thought we had more respect between us than that. We are in the second week of December. A player has returned to his club at the end of his loan period as agreed in the terms of that loan. The transfer window is closed so the player won''t be going anywhere until January. I would guess that we tried to extend the loan but were turned down. I would guess that Birmingham are trying to get the highest price they can for their player and are using the QPR bid for this purpose. I would also guess that what''s happening here is quite close to breaking rules. I know we had to agree a fee for Etuhu''s transfer in the following January before we could sign him on loan and that was at least against the spirit of the laws of the game. This will now not completely unfold until January when the transfer window opens. I have not given up on Taylor signing for us because the player himself has a big say in these things. If indeed Norwich is his preferred choice of club then I would think we are still favourites to sign him. Mr Carrow - all this is a long way away from Worthington being refused the funds to buy Steve Howard in the summer 06 transfer window. If it transpires in January that Roeder has been thwarted by the board I point the finger of blame in the same way I did then. Allegedly.    
  10. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Nasty, nasty. Did anyone say he was. Don''t try and shift the focus to Roeder. You should be ashamed. He''s been let down big time and is putting on a brave face like the gentleman that he is. Quite frankly, I am very disappointed in you and I think you should withdraw your comment. OTBC   [/quote] Babes - I am not shifting the focus onto anyone, I am just trying to make some sense out of the rants from some of you on here. Roeder clearly and concisely gives his version of events which quite honestly don''t fit with the bitterness and acrimony plastered all over this messageboard by a few shameless posters who have been gagging for a rant for a fortnight.  
  11. [quote user="paint_me_yellow"] I''ve noticed theres a sudden re-appearance of a few familiar posters now things are on the down again. Funny that. [/quote] But they aren''t on the down. The last game was that fourth win out of the last five against Sheffield United. What I have noticed is that the board is busier again now posters have got something to moan about. It was oh so quiet for a couple of weeks...... sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [:#]  
  12. [quote user="1st Wizard"] Nutty Nigel said: And this is why I wish the ''Boo Boys'' would just admit they don''t like him rather than continually make up stuff to discredit him. Re-run the Plymouth game NN, Donkerty continually lost his player to mark and he was a huge factor in their goal. And thats just one example.................there are many, many more!.[:|] [/quote] I was at the Plymouth game. Doherty was man of the match. Were you there?    
  13. [quote user="yellow hammer"] How about his example of Luton: "the prospect of looking over the precipice at League 2. And just last year they were competing for a place in the Premiership". Are we not similarly looking over the precipice at League 1, having followed the Norwich City model of spend it on property and not on the squad? Yes, there are times to be prudent, but there are times when you have to invest. In the case of Taylor you have a player who has proven to be successful in our team. He has done the job fantasically well, the evidence is right there before everybodoy''s eyes. It''s undeniable. So if City allow Taylor to be snapped up by our fellow-strugglers QPR because we don''t want to gamble on  a sure-fire winner, then that is not prudence, that is sheer stupidity. What price Roeder packing his bags citing ''lack of ambition'' as Rioch did? What price League 1 football.? Since Glenn''s arrival the turnaround in our club has been remarkable; the players, the coaches and the fans are giving their all for NCFC. If the board, who admit making mistakes in the past, do not step up to the plate then they will be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Unbelievably foolish! YH [/quote] TBH I still don''t see what''s wrong with what Doncaster has said. And the way he''s worded the article implicates the whole board so as the Turners or other board members haven''t spoken out against him we can only assume it''s the words of all of them. However, the anger and resentment is still there with many of you but what can you do about it? Roeder has this to say :- Said Roeder: “Karren Brady says they''ve accepted an offer from QPR, but it''s a worthless offer because the player has said he doesn''t want to go to QPR. “She wouldn''t negotiate on the price. “As far as I''m aware, there is no club other than QPR involved. Martin wants to come here and is really disappointed that Birmingham wouldn''t negotiate. “The deal wasn''t viable - there''s no question of that. Birmingham have been very difficult.” Roeder praised Norwich''s directors for backing his efforts to land Taylor. He said: “The board have bent over backwards to help me. A lot of managers won''t have any money to spend in January so the fact that we have some money is very encouraging. “The deal was always going to be very expensive and we need more than one player in January. “We need more quality in this squad. Matty Pattison''s done very well and we have to make a decision on him.” Is he a liar?  
  14. Dear Santa Claus, It''s been so long So long since I have written Since as a kid in happy house I dwelled I''ve moved from there and now I live On disillusion avenue And I''ve been here longer than I care to tell The twinkling bells of hope and joy The laughter that rang in my voice Have silenced more and more as time goes by Those treasured gifts from other years Are tarnished, lost or stained with tears So Santa would you bring a new supply I''ll be hanging up my empty heart this Christmas Please fill it full with love and hope and cheer My faith is gone, my courage low, my patience ran out long ago Dear Santa Claus I need so much this year Bring a basket of forgetfulness to cover up the bitterness And the grudges that I''ve gathered through the years And leave a large bag of forgiveness To give out to those who robbed me Of my laughter that sometimes filled my eyes with tears And Santa please a box piled high with love and understanding That I could share with all my neighbours and my friends And leave one new temper cause I lost mine Lost it one too many times And make the new one longer if you can I''ll be hanging up my empty heart this Christmas Please fill it full with love and hope and cheer Tuck in some smiles to give away and some to wear for every day Dear Santa Claus I need so much this year Please Santa fill my empty heart this year Love 1st Wizard x  
  15. [quote user="Shack Attack"] My tip for our resident racist (his words not mine) is Portsmouth to beat Tottenham. [/quote] Shack ... I read most threads most days, even to the point where people often say of me " He must live on that pink un board"  Many others don''t so I hope you don''t mind me pointing out that the resident racist comment has nothing to do with Arrdee or the ''Free Bet Fred'' but is a reference to a point of view taken by another poster on a totally different thread. Doing it cross threaded never seems to work properly [:)][;)] Stay Bright Buddy [H]  
  16. If you are keen to have a bet my friend, why not venture onto the ''Free Bet Fred'' and see if you can help the academy produce are own Tiny Onesizes [:^)]  
  17. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="nutty nigel"] Well I still fail to see what''s wrong with it, I don''t even see where it puts a damper on anything. Read it again and quote me the bits you are complaining about. I''m sorry, but to me this is just another example of people who are lost with nothing to moan about. We have won 4/5 games so we get ridiculous threads whining about the academy, ticket prices and now this. Some of you lot must lurk in the background gagging for a whinge! [:''(][:P] [/quote] You are certainly living up to your name and rreputation on this one Nutty. And protecting the family jewels too, one suspects. OTBC   [/quote] And you yours Bly! Gagging for a whinge ''n all [:''(] BTW, like all good cricketers I have a box to protect the family jewells. [G]  
  18. Well I still fail to see what''s wrong with it, I don''t even see where it puts a damper on anything. Read it again and quote me the bits you are complaining about. I''m sorry, but to me this is just another example of people who are lost with nothing to moan about. We have won 4/5 games so we get ridiculous threads whining about the academy, ticket prices and now this. Some of you lot must lurk in the background gagging for a whinge! [:''(][:P]  
  19. Hopefully all the people who feel they have been ripped off when they bought their season tickets won''t be renewing next season. I have long believed that we have far too many season ticket holders and that everybody suffers as a result. This is the second such thread on here this week so maybe my wish will come true. Just to put this into perspective, my season ticket (Lower Barclay Block E) is cheaper than an equivalent season ticket at Southend! That is if there is an equivalent seat at Southend!! Some of you could moan for England [:''(][:@][:''(][:@][:P]  
  20. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Does he reflect you leadership views, Andrew Turner? [/quote] I rather suspect he does in as much as this reads like a board statement. Your board has said many times before that while we will continue to be as ambitious as we can to achieve your aim and ours of getting promoted to the Premiership and staying there, what we will not do is to risk the very future of the Club by speculating wildly. We continue to seek investment in the Club and will continue to do everything we can to ensure that Norwich City is as well funded as possible. But in the meantime, we will continue to try and live within our means. We have no wish to join growing ranks of those clubs who have gone into administration. Whilst the prize for success is great, the cost of failure can be disastrous. We proved in 2004 that with the right combination of unity, a squad that gelled, some judicious spending and, where necessary, canny use of the loan system, anything is possible. There is no reason why that cannot happen again and despite the warning notes sounded above, the Board and everyone at the Club remain totally committed to doing everything possible to support Glenn''s plans for the January window and beyond. If he doesn''t then I would expect a denial to be forthcoming. But to be honest I don''t really see what all the fuss is about. Would someone please tell me what''s wrong with this statement today. Not what''s wrong over the last 3 seasons before the board changes took place. And not what''s wrong at the end of January as if it''s possible to see into the future. What''s wrong with this statement today?  
  21. See... Never happier than when stirring up an atmosphere of protest [:''(][:@] Who is the idiot Wiz? [:|]  
  22. [quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="nutty nigel"]   Go on then.. kick it off Wiz! Go into one of your famous rants while only in possession of half the facts and then come back and change your mind again when Taylor comes back. Just treat it like a letter to Santa if it makes you feel better [E] Dear Santa... for christmas this year I would like that wicked cook and her cohorts to go, and the Doc, and Doomcaster, and Donkerty, and I want Chase back and Doherty out. [:''(]Please don''t put these on your sleigh yet though because with over 10 days before christmas there''s plenty of time for me to change my mind a few times. Thanks, First Wizard.   [/quote] Idiot! [/quote] Thanks! So what part of Doncasters article upset you then Wiz.. you are never happy unless you are taking part in an atmosphere of protest. And you call me an idiot!!! It''s nearly Christmas and our team have four wins out of five. The transfer window is closed, the loan window is closed. Keep your powder dry til the end of January and then if it becomes obvious that Roeder has his hands tied by lack of ambition from the board you will get some support when you want to kick off. Until then wouldn''t it be better to let our so called ''suicidal liability'' of a manager carry on trying to get us climbing the league without the background of so called fans chucking their toys out of the pram [:''(] And don''t come back at me quoting your years of undying support for the club I love because I''ll match it... savvy!  
  23. [quote user="1st Wizard"]Its all going to kick off on here again, isn''t it?.[:(][/quote] Go on then.. kick it off Wiz! Go into one of your famous rants while only in possession of half the facts and then come back and change your mind again when Taylor comes back. Just treat it like a letter to Santa if it makes you feel better [E] Dear Santa... for christmas this year I would like that wicked cook and her cohorts to go, and the Doc, and Doomcaster, and Donkerty, and I want Chase back and Doherty out. [:''(]Please don''t put these on your sleigh yet though because with over 10 days before christmas there''s plenty of time for me to change my mind a few times. Thanks, First Wizard.  
  24. Greetings Pink Un Pickers..... alright [Y] Nottingham Forest suffered a disappointment this week as they failed to secure a ''Revive Forty Five'' 3rd round Cup Tie against their 1980''s ''Top Of The Charts'' rivals Liverpool. However their league form is good and over the last month they have climbed to No. 3 in the League One chart. Meanwhile Northampton, winless in the league since October, have dropped like a stone out of  the ''top ten''  to No. 18. Nottingham Forest V Northampton    Home win. Is this gonna be the third win for the  ''Pink Un Pickers'' who are quite possibly the only football messageboard community raising money for their clubs academy in the whole world... ..... Not ''arf [Y] Good luck Delia''s Devonshire Dirtbox [Y] That''s right.... hold tight... stay bright [H]  
  25. It''s all very well to quote Bellamy, Sutton and Eadie but I think if then was now the only one we would have got would be Sutton. This is the problem we face now with those travelling time rules. I don''t see what can be done except to hope that we can unearth a few more like Dale Gordon, Ruel Fox or Chris Sutton because we aren''t likely to find any Craig Bellamy''s or Darren Eadies on the gas platforms in the North Sea. Is it worth persevering with the academy? I believe it is because ultimately we would all like to see some local boys make the step up in the way they did in the past. Over the last few years we have seen Jason Shackell and to a certain extent Ryan Jarvis, Ian Henderson, Chris Martin and Mickey Spillane breaking into the first team. I don''t see that the club are doing anything wrong though. It''s not as though they are missing out on players, otherwise we would be hearing of the local boys making good elsewhere. It''s also fair to point out that although Nigel Worthington was slated on these boards and by columnists for not playing youth, and for releasing players like Danny Crowe, I have yet to see these players prove him wrong. Another thing to bear in mind is that many other clubs who are better situated for the travelling purposes have no better record than us. Best thing to do I reckon is to support the academy by helping out on the ''Free Bet Fred'' and hope that there is another purple patch of talent come through in the near future.  
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