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  1. [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] If we were a yoyo club we would want more, if we were a mid-table premiership club we would want more, if we were top 6 we would want Champions league and if we had that we would want the title. There''s nothing wrong with that, it''s part of being a fan to have those ambitions. If you dare to dream you will suffer disappointments but that''s part of being a fan too. The FA Cup starts in a fortnight... are you dreaming SOB.... because I am. [/quote] true, but our performance since the promotion season has been dismal at best.  Hence why we are 4th bottom. [/quote] At no point have I ever argued with that fact CJF. But I have still enjoyed supporting my club and going to games. The beauty of football is you never know what to expect and that is why all fans dream. Realists left the ground at 4-1 against Boro.. the dreamers stayed and for once were rewarded.  
  2. SOB - If you don''t enjoy going why bother? Nobody said we shouldn''t want success, do you think I don''t want success? Nobody said we shouldn''t enjoy our great history and I share my memories on here as much as anyone and more than most. I don''t deny past glories, I have enjoyed them. Wembley Cup Finals, FA Cup Semi''s, European games, three Championships, challenging at the top of the Premiership, I have seen them all right from the mid sixties to now. But I still enjoy the now, I enjoyed Worthingtons championship as much as Saunders'' in 1972. I enjoyed the Play Off final as much as the Tottenham League Cup Final, I even enjoyed going to Blackpool a few weeks ago and I will enjoy going to Sunny Scunny on Saturday. The whole point of my sig is that some posters on here polish up the best bits from the past and leave the rest to rot in the dustbin. A few months ago I posted about the disgraceful zigger zagger chant directed at Geoffrey Watling in the 60''s but nobody remembers that. We look on Duncan Forbes (a true city legend I might add) as being everything Gary Doherty isn''t, whereas if you were to look a bit harder at the present and remember a bit more from the past you would realise that''s not really the case. When people post about the present it''s fashionable to moan about everything even to the point where there''s more kudos in scoring points against our great club by using our deadliest rivals. And yet the gulf between the two clubs was probably at its biggest in the late 70''s and early 80''s. There isn''t even any certainty that they will finish above us this season and they certainly didn''t look as good as us when we played them a few weeks ago. If we were a yoyo club we would want more, if we were a mid-table premiership club we would want more, if we were top 6 we would want Champions league and if we had that we would want the title. There''s nothing wrong with that, it''s part of being a fan to have those ambitions. If you dare to dream you will suffer disappointments but that''s part of being a fan too. The FA Cup starts in a fortnight... are you dreaming SOB.... because I am.      
  3. [quote user="JaundicedJockGeorgy"][quote user="inch_high"] Why are there so many binners on this board now? I would never in a million years wish them luck[*-)]  I think that they are really secret NCFC fans who have not come out yet. We should offer them our support in coming out as it must be hard for a binner to admit there true feelings. [/quote] I don''t object to friendly polite Binners (and fans of other clubs) like Lucy coming on here, in fact as far as I''m concerned they are most welcome, but any micky-taking abusive binners can get lost. I think Binners and others (we8wba, Happy Hammer Andy etc) like our board because you can have a sane, decent level of discussion on here (sometimes!). I''ve only found two Binner boards, twtd and their equivalent of  the pink''un and they were both shockingly poor, so you can understand some of them coming on here. Are NCFC fans among the most well-read and literate of any in the country? [/quote] And we are the only board with the famous ''Free Bet Fred'' [;)]  
  4. [quote user="1st Wizard"]I wouldn''t rely too much on player sales, we sold Ashton, Earnshaw, Green and Co...................we''ve never seen a penny of that going on top players yet!.[A][/quote] That''s obviously because Earnshaw wasn''t a top player until we sold him then [*-)]  
  5. [quote user="chicken"][quote user="ricardo"] There is no pot mate. We don''t have any money to spend. We may get a few extended loans but unless the Turners agree to put up some more cash I can''t see us actually paying out for anyone.   [/quote] There must be something else you are accusing Roeder of telling porkies!!! [/quote] No no no Chicken, you don''t understand, Roeder doesnt tell porkies, he has just been taken in by the boards spin. Just like he doesn''t really believe Doherty has been outstanding, he just say''s that in public because he has to, in private he believes he is sh*t. He will see the light in January and walk! [*-)][;)]  
  6. [quote user="blacko"]I shall be going I think it will be ground number 77 fro me.[/quote] I''m going but it''s only ground number 69 for me Blacko. So it''s anyway up in Sunny Scunny [H]  
  7. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Merry Xmas (and if that''s politically incorrect, then I most humbly apologise profusely in advance). But let''s agree on something and wish all City fans across the spectrum A VERY HARRY NEW YEAR. [<:o)] OTBC   [/quote] Christmas is a magical time of year and these posts remind me of Charles Dickens ''A Christmas Carol''. But where as dear old Ebeneezer, just like your good self, pleads with the Ghost Of Christmas Past not to leave he actually manages to stay awake long enough to be visited by the other two ghosts. It seems you fall into a contented sleep after ''The Ghost Of Canaries Past'' visits, dreaming of those happy days where you remember those Boards of years gone by and their open cheque books. Deep in your slumber you remember Duncan Forbes striding gracefully across our back line snuffing out all dangers Rio Ferdinandesque. If you just stayed awake a little bit longer you would meet the ''Ghost Of Canaries Present''. He would take you to watch Gary Doherty, a player you have wronged. He would show you an international footballer who wears the famous yellow shirt with pride and who has been the best defender at our great club for the last three seasons. He would make you watch him defend rather than form an opinion on style. Then on to Aunty Delia''s where you would see someone who cares for the club as much as the rest of us and he would show you how she has a greater understanding of the pressures and problems of competing at the level we aspire to than most of us on here. If there''s time he would take you to see Glen Roeder''s christmas and show you a man who chooses his words carefully in order to speak the truth and leave people in no doubt he is genuine, the real deal in fact. If you are lucky you may stay awake long enough to meet ''The Ghost Of Canaries Yet To Come''. This is the one all of us would like to meet. If we could see the future we would know for sure which posters had it spot on and which were misguided. I would like to meet ''The Ghost Of Canaries Yet To Come'' but not at the expense of  ''The Ghost Of Canaries Present''. Happy Christmas BlyBlyBabes... we could drink a toast but you need to check out your wine glass, I think there''s a hole in it because it''s never even half full [D]  
  8. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"] Back to the Doc/Shax comedy show I guess. [/quote] That''s just what Nutty wants y''know. He''s more than a great fan of the Doc''s. What he loves is that air of confidence and competence than fans out through the squad in great waves over the field when Doc bestrides our defence. I really can''t make up my mind as to whether Nutty is really Doncaster''s maiden aunt, a binner plant or simply Delia''s cousin. He has enough excuses and rationalistions to fill my rubbish bin. What I do have to put up with from him. Oh dearie dearie me. OTBC [/quote] Babes - I''m sure our squad have every confidence in ''The Doc'', in fact the players who play alongside him have come out in the press and said as much. If you look at the stats and not the hysterical rants you would see why. Doherty has played 11 league games in the centre of defence this season during which we have conceded 12 goals at an average of 1.09 per game. Compare this with Shackell 18 games, 25 goals at 1.39, and Taylor 8 games 12 goals at 1.5. As pairings: Doherty / Shackell 5 games, 6 goals at 1.2 per game : Taylor / Shackell 7 games, 11 goals at 1.57 per game. The other pairings haven''t had enough games to give meaningful stats but the strongest pairings have all involved Doherty.  Doc / Murray 2 games, 1 goal, Shacks / Murray 2 games 5 goals. So there''s some more for your rubbish bin. Just sling them straight in without a second glance. I would be quite happy for us to sign Taylor but to suggest replacing Doherty is a priority, which you have been doing for the whole season, is plain wrong.  
  9. [quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]Nutty - Like your "Nostalgia" thing at the bottom of your posts, how about "Denying past glories can be a way of accepting present mediocrity" as an alternative?[/quote] That''s a strange thing to say SOB, but yeah, if you denied past glories I guess you could more readily accept present mediocrity. Thing is, the Norwich we watch now is all there is now, and for me it''s not as bad as people would have you believe just as the past was not all about glory days. Or to look at it a different way - my daughter has only been going for the last 12 seasons and she has found plenty of enjoyment during the present mediocrity. But if I had stayed up in my attic with my scrapbooks, Babes style, she would never have got the bug. And now my grandson has been to a few games and he may get the bug. Sure if you can''t find any enjoyment in the present mediocrity there''s no point going - but then - what''s the point of coming to rant on here.  
  10. Lets talk about us, not them. They do not have a great young team, they are in the Championship just like us and have been for longer than us. As for catchment areas, I don''t really know. It''s fashionable to knock everything about the club at the moment and it seems there''s even more kudos to score points by using our bitterest rivals to do it. Some of our great youth players of the past didn''t come from our catchment area, Bellamy and Eadie are two but many did, Dale Gordon, Ruel Fox and Chris Sutton readily spring to mind. The players we have brought through in recent years have not been up to that standard even though successive managers have been berated for not playing them and buying "so called" journeymen. I don''t think Roeder is going to rely too heavily on a lot of those who were playing last night. Six of them featured in the game at Plymouth in November and of that six only Chris Brown has had pitch time since and that was one minute against Coventry. I would think it''s up to those players to prove they are worth another go and I would doubt if they got close to doing that last night. But without those six the squad looks really thin so lets hope Roeder can get a bit more out of some of them.  
  11. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"] Ok, you believe your own "special" version of history if you are more comfortable with it. You have no idea how many games i go to. I am financially boycotting the club as i don`t want my cash to pay for yet more infrastructure-but i do know a good number of season-ticket holders. See if you can work it out. [/quote] My own special version of history? Are you seriously trying to tell me that Barry Skipper had more to do with us signing Hux than Worthy did? The much hated (by most on here) Barry Skipper certainly was instrumental but it was the much hated (by most on here) Nigel Worthington who really sold the club to Hux. Come and say hello at Sunny Scunny [H]  
  12. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Mr.Carrow"] There is a massive, massive difference between splashing ridiculous amounts on non-English speaking foreigners and looking a gift-horse in the mouth. The board would have done it with Huckerby if the likes of me hadn`t paid for him, they did it with Crouch, they did it by not backing a proven manager (Worthy) with reasonable money upon relegation and now they are doing it again and are prepared to risk relegation for the sake of haggling over a few £100k with Brum. Indefensible. [/quote] Wow.. you not only our number one supporting away fan but you also got us Hux [H][<:o)] We really are not worthy [;)]   [/quote] I think Barry Skipper had more to do with it than me Nutty. Did you speak to him at the AGM or were you at the back trying your hardest not to rock the boat? He`s not a happy bunny at all apparently, so that`s one more the board has managed to alienate. [/quote] Do you play Monopoly??  I had Subuteo as a kid and enjoyed that much more. Nigel Worthington had more to do with it than ''the suits''. I wasn''t at the AGM. I haven''t been to one since the EGM at St Andrews hall after Ken Brown was sacked. I was at Burnley, Plymouth and Blackpool though. You don''t seem to be able to make the games or the AGM''s... Do you play football manager? Well done on making it to Colchester though [Y][:P]    
  13. [quote user="silver fox"][quote user="nutty nigel"] So if he fouls more than his colleagues I can only assume that as the freekicks aren''t given he bribes the ref too. I really don''t understand this hatred of the Doc, it''s a sad state we find ourselves in when fans have to scapegoat good honest players in that way. The reason Roeder loaned Taylor in the first place was because the Doc was injured. You assume that Doc wouldn''t play if we still had Taylor and yet the only time Roeder had them both available he dropped Shackell. The last three Norwich managers have played him out of choice in front of any other alternatives they have. The facts prove conclusively we concede least goals with Doherty in defence. He doesn''t hoof the ball out of defence any more than any other defender including Taylor and has more assists than any of them including two in the last two away games. Why don''t you either produce the evidence to the contrary or admit that you just don''t like the guy despite his performances.  Would that be the same Taylor that brings the ball down to his feet and distributes it out to other players.  I guess you haven''t actually seen Taylor play for Norwich, and the two goals he has scored.  Did you watch the game on Saturday when there were several examples of Doherty giving free kicks away, even as far up as the half way line. Grant, Roeder, Dublin, Shackell, Murray have all come out in support of Doherty in public but you believe it''s because they have no choice and really they are Babes, Wizard, Smudger and you in disguise [H] Everyone is entitled to their opinion and personally I prefer Dublin and Shackell given the choice for central defenders.  If you believe Doherty to be our best defender then so be it, I still believe he is a liability when he plays.   [/quote][/quote] For sure everybody is entitled to their opinion, thats what this messageboard is for. But facts are facts none the less. Roeder did say that Doherty had been outstanding and it''s only your opinion that he was lying. McCarthey obviously did tell Roeder that The Doc wouldn''t let him down and as Doherty is first choice here under yet another manager I would suggest that McCarthey would have no chance of signing him in January. The only time Roeder has had Taylor and Doherty available together Shackell was dropped to the bench so your opinion is clearly not right in assuming he would play Taylor and Shackell given the choice. If Doherty fouls more than Shackell, Dublin or Taylor then the stats will prove it. If his distribution is worse then the stats will prove it. I suggest his mistakes get noticed more. I feel sorry for Doherty, but I also accept that everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have seen may catastrophic mistakes from him over the last few seasons but I have seen a lot more examples of good defending. When I come back from away games any goal we concede is always Docs fault on here. Yet Doc rarely loses his man and he''s usually trying to cover someone elses mistake. Dublin loses his man more than any of the others but it never gets mentioned. Dublin is a centreforward and Dohertyy is a centreback. That''s why every Norwich manager has always preferred Doherty to Dublin when given the choice. But while these are my just my opinions, myself and others have dragged the facts onto this board many times to back them up.  
  14. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"] Ummm, i support Norwich City Football Club Nutty, not individual supporters or board members.....And there is a big difference between "having a go" and stating an opinion as me and 7 or so others saw it. No doubt you saw it as a wall of noise from start to finish......[/quote] I didn''t see it as anything because I couldn''t go. It was one of the matches I have to miss each season through other commitments. You know - just like every AGM and meet the board meetings that you have to miss. [:|]  
  15. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Mr.Carrow"][quote user="T"] Just curious as to whether the view is that the board should not have sanctioned the month loan of Taylor? If they had not then I suspect there would have been far less fuss now but we would have been worse off. [/quote] Yes. I think that not only are the board wise not to sign good players on permanant deals but they should refrain from signing them on loan as well as it just gets the supporters over-excited...... Honestly, is this what this club and its supporters have come to? Embarrassing. [/quote] The over reaction on here because Taylor returned to Birmingham at the end of his agreed loan spell is what''s really embarassing. If we don''t sign good players during the transfer window it would be a different matter.   [/quote] I`m pretty sure you said that about the last transfer window. And the one before that. And the one befo..................[|-)] [/quote] Im pretty sure we have a different board and manager now though................... [|-)]  
  16. So if he fouls more than his colleagues I can only assume that as the freekicks aren''t given he bribes the ref too. I really don''t understand this hatred of the Doc, it''s a sad state we find ourselves in when fans have to scapegoat good honest players in that way. The reason Roeder loaned Taylor in the first place was because the Doc was injured. You assume that Doc wouldn''t play if we still had Taylor and yet the only time Roeder had them both available he dropped Shackell. The last three Norwich managers have played him out of choice in front of any other alternatives they have. The facts prove conclusively we concede least goals with Doherty in defence. He doesn''t hoof the ball out of defence any more than any other defender including Taylor and has more assists than any of them including two in the last two away games. Why don''t you either produce the evidence to the contrary or admit that you just don''t like the guy despite his performances. Grant, Roeder, Dublin, Shackell, Murray have all come out in support of Doherty in public but you believe it''s because they have no choice and really they are Babes, Wizard, Smudger and you in disguise [H]  
  17. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Mr.Carrow"] There is a massive, massive difference between splashing ridiculous amounts on non-English speaking foreigners and looking a gift-horse in the mouth. The board would have done it with Huckerby if the likes of me hadn`t paid for him, they did it with Crouch, they did it by not backing a proven manager (Worthy) with reasonable money upon relegation and now they are doing it again and are prepared to risk relegation for the sake of haggling over a few £100k with Brum. Indefensible. [/quote] Wow.. you not only our number one supporting away fan but you also got us Hux [H][<:o)] We really are not worthy [;)] [/quote] The likes of me paid for Hucks too. Wow. Wowee. Did the likes of you? And if the truth be told you must be happy now the worthy doc is back. [:)] I mean, that tiny, he''s just an expensive unworthy inconvenience, eh?[:(] OTBC [/quote] Happy the Doc is back.. yes certainly but I would be happy if we had signed Taylor too. Maybe.. without talking in riddles and spinning like a gyroscope you could explain to me why Doc is not worthy? I won''t hold my breath though.  
  18. "I thought Doc (Doherty) did particularly well," said Roeder, quizzed as to how he felt the reunited Doherty-Shackell show did at Layer Road. "He (Doherty) had played three games for me now and overall, he''s been outstanding. He''s more than capable of being a good player in the Championship," added the City chief, who got the nod on that front from one of Peter Grant''s old pals - Wolves boss Mick McCarthy. "Mick said to me a few weeks ago that Doc won''t let you down - he knows him obviously from his days with the Republic of Ireland - and Doc hasn''t. He hasn''t let himself down or the team. And with his experience he''s an important player to play alongside Shacks (Shackell)." So... now we can add Smudgers name to that list of people who really know better than the last three Norwich managers. Come on cluck, come back here and join in too. Wizard, Smudger and babes.... awesome! You''re all in good company now! Who do we listen to.. do we trust what we see.. or is the Doc really a disgrace to the yellow and green shirt... You decide.  
  19. [quote user="Fellas"]I''ll keep it simple. Would we have conceeded with Taylor was playing? [/quote] And would we have scored?  
  20. [quote user="Mello Yello"] It''s Sunday, it''s nearly noon, and it''s about time you tottered off to your converted ''potting shed shrine'' to Delia isn''t it Nutster? Now, stop playin'' with your "Donkster Dolly" ''Pfraap'' ''Guff'' ''Pump'' - an'' grab your Delia cookery book and get down to the shed, and pay your daily servile homage![:P] [/quote] So it was you skulking behind my greenouse this morning...... Get off my land!!!!!! [:@][ip] And remember.... My garden shed is bigger than this...... [:P]  
  21. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"] There is a massive, massive difference between splashing ridiculous amounts on non-English speaking foreigners and looking a gift-horse in the mouth. The board would have done it with Huckerby if the likes of me hadn`t paid for him, they did it with Crouch, they did it by not backing a proven manager (Worthy) with reasonable money upon relegation and now they are doing it again and are prepared to risk relegation for the sake of haggling over a few £100k with Brum. Indefensible. [/quote] Wow.. you not only our number one supporting away fan but you also got us Hux [H][<:o)] We really are not worthy [;)]  
  22. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"]Me and a couple of mates made more noise in support of City than most of the away fans-and we were in the home end. And yes, this is a serious post.[/quote] Starting on the away fans now Mr Carrow? Those that got tickets for Colchester are in the main the same fans who over the last few weeks have been to Burnley and Blackpool on a Tuesday night and that crazy trip to Plymouth. So well done to you and your couple of mates for making the effort, we really are not worthy of your support.  
  23. [quote user="gazzathegreat"] The Turners, by all accounts, are replacements for Delia and Michael for when they have to retire from their Directorships due to age. That''s fair enough. Have they brought anything new to the club to warrant their 2m investment? I believe they have but evidence of that is probably not going to be immediately obvious aside from them keeping tabs on Doncaster and bringing in much needed business acumen to the board as a whole.[/quote] Good post Gazza [Y] The way I see it, if you are right and the Turners have brought somerthing new to the club then surely it must be the case that the board has changed. The other points become irrelevent, Worthington, Grant, investment in the premiership are all in the past. Roeder and the present board is the now and the future. Either that or the Turners are just there for a bit of glory and the board decision making remains the same. Which is it [Y][N][^o)][:^)]............... you decide.  
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