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  1. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="nutty nigel"] Overated - Dublin in defence! Underated - Dublin up front!! Don''t do it again Glen............. please! [/quote] Why? So there''ll be more space for Doherty? And we get more points/match without Doherty. Ineffable. OTBC [/quote] I already explained why to Duffman and it had nothing to do with Doherty. Have the papers arrived yet, Fawlty? [D]  
  2. [quote user="Duffman"][quote user="nutty nigel"] Overated - Dublin in defence! Underated - Dublin up front!! Don''t do it again Glen............. please!   [/quote] What was the alternative ? [/quote] Bertrand LB, Camara LCB, Dublin CF. 2-0 up in 5 mins... game over... maybe [;)] Seriously though Duffman, playing Dublin centre back was my biggest gripe at Grant. We always seemed to go 2-0 down and then he would stick him up front to try and salvage something from the game. It''s like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Dublin is still the best centre forward at the club and we have to score goals and preferably score first to win games.  
  3. Overated - Dublin in defence! Underated - Dublin up front!! Don''t do it again Glen............. please!  
  4. Let''s hope he has caught Worthyitis, I agree the signs are there! 1. Getting rid of some of the previous managers dross signings. 2. Taking over a side heading for relegation and immediately turning it round and making us difficult to beat. 3. Installing team spirit and togetherness back to the squad, making training enjoyable again and putting smiles on faces. 4. Looking at our youth and realising those we have are not good enough despite what the fans think. 5. Playing Doherty every time he is available despite the fact he is a disgrace to the shirt. Allegedly [:|] (Sorry wizard, smudge, babes, a1 cjf and all - 5 is not really part of the disease but maybe a side affect?) If left untreated this disease could lead to a comfortable mid-table finish this season followed by the play offs next and ultimately a championship and return to the premier league!    
  5. [quote user="Mister Chops"]I think you''ve got him, Nigel.  Game, set, match.[/quote] D''oliveira made a hundred [D]  [;)]    
  6. [quote user="we8wba"] [quote user="newyorkcanary"]Well, I was hoping that if we didn''t win this week it wouldn''t be just Norwich.  Everton, Spurs and Swansea look like losers for us.  Those of us who have been known to lay a bet or two know that you NEVER call something a cert before the game.  That was the jinx for me.[/quote] no one takes the blame on the free bet thread newyork, the way is to be positive and this will be warning for who ever in charge of next round cup selections lets hope for winning week next week who is in charge ardee? [/quote] That was a minefield we8 m8![Y] You had a lot on your pl8 there[^o)] and you were unlucky to run into such a sp8 of cup upsets[:$] on 3rd round day. Nobody will castig8[:@] you because there is no blame here[:''(] and we still recognise your gr8 contribution on this thread,[I] you are still a star[*] m8 and I am impressed by the way you intreg8 [um]the new posters on our thread. So don''t capitul8[li] and get yourself back onto Arrdees rota and lets hope you don''t have to w8 too long for another go[O]. I''m sure we will all soon celebr8 another win for the academy.[B][<:o)]  
  7. [quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Why does Shackell play so much better alongside Martin Taylor than alongside Gary Doherty? Step up Nutty Nigel. Let''s hear from you as the board ''expert'' on central defenders. OTBC P.S. I bet you Nutty argues that my assertion is not true. Shhhhhhhh....... [/quote] Having found it neccessary to start a condescending thread in this manner, stop moving the goal posts to fit your agenda and move back to the original post and explain to me what you have seen that makes you believe Shackell plays so much better beside Martin Taylor.   [/quote] Step up to the plate Babes old son.. it is your thread after all. Surely you can try to muster some sort of answer to yet another question you choose to ignore. You do remind me of  Major Gowan [~][W]  "Have the papers arrived yet, Fawlty?"[O][D]  
  8. Good luck with your selections we8 m8 [;)] Its more difficult than at first glance. There are always upsets in the 3rd Round and they are usually somewhere least expected. The BBC always give it their best shot to find one and usually get it wrong! Often it can take a replay for the fancied team to go through. Also this weekend many clubs lose loan players they have been relying on as we appear to have done. I think you are the perfect picker for this weeks minefield. One thing I find strange is that Ladbrokes price Norwich at 4/9 and Spurs at 2/5. Norwich are 47 places above Bury in the league and Norwich are on a good run of form where as Bury are dropping down their league like a stone. Tottenham are only 1 place above Reading and never seem to play 2 matches alike. Do Laddies consider the return of our loan players will make that much difference? Although its already been selected I agree with Lappin and George and nap Norwich to beat Bury.  
  9. [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] Taylor / Shackell  7 games 9 conceded - av. 1.28  10 points won - av 1.42 Doherty / Shackell  9 games 9 conceded av. 1  11 points won - av. 1.22 Howabout you answering some of my questions now.   [/quote] So we won more points with Taylor at the back, and he improved with each match. Sounds good to me, after the last couple of seasons disastrous goals against column we could do with picking him up asap. [/quote] At no point have I suggested that we shouldn''t sign Taylor. The only point I have made is that in my opinion the midfield and goalscoring  is still the priority because without Fotheringham we play too much long ball whoever is playing central defence and we are not scoring enough goals when we have possession. The defence as performed adequately all season.  
  10. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Why does Shackell play so much better alongside Martin Taylor than alongside Gary Doherty? Step up Nutty Nigel. Let''s hear from you as the board ''expert'' on central defenders. OTBC P.S. I bet you Nutty argues that my assertion is not true. Shhhhhhhh....... [/quote] Having found it neccessary to start a condescending thread in this manner, stop moving the goal posts to fit your agenda and move back to the original post and explain to me what you have seen that makes you believe Shackell plays so much better beside Martin Taylor.  
  11. Taylor / Shackell  7 games 9 conceded - av. 1.28  10 points won - av 1.42 Doherty / Shackell  9 games 9 conceded av. 1  11 points won - av. 1.22 Howabout you answering some of my questions now.  
  12. [quote user="Robert N. LiM"] Lets hope that Croft keeps it up - it might be at the expense of Hucks, though, since I can''t see Roeder playing two midfielders who don''t add anything defensively in the same line-up. I''d be tempted to try a five-man midfield in the Bury game, to see if it works          Evans (assuming he returns) Huckerby - Pattison - Fotheringham - Russell - Croft It''s the ideal 4-5-1, becoming a properly attacking 4-3-3. The only question is, do we have a striker capable of playing the lone role up front? Cureton - too small. Dublin - too slow. Strihavka - ha ha ha ha ha. Evans has the touch as long as the service is good. Brown is probably the best target man, but not exactly a natural goalscorer. hmmm [/quote] We had this same discussion on the way home yesterday. I agree it''s unlikely Roeder would play Huckerby and Croft together in a four man midfield. The 4-5-1 is a good way of fitting them both in but as you point out Brown would probably be the lone frontman simply because our other forwards aren''t really suited to that role. Evans could (if we get him back) but is maybe a bit young to play that role in this physical league. The alternative would be to play 442 with Hucks up front. This worked last season when he played up there with Chris Martin and I would have liked to have seen it tried with Evans. I don''t think Huckerby / Cureton would work as a pair though... but you never know....    
  13. [quote user="arrdee"]Alf you lovely old boy , I think the complaint is the large number of players that the English Clubs have in the first place top make their selections from .what they are saying (a French club) I believe  Is that the players they register are all they have got . So there you go .arrdee. [/quote] Any system brought in always seems to favour the big clubs with most money. I don''t think it can be avoided because money will always talk. My pet hate is the transfer window which really does favour the rich clubs because of the large squads they can afford to carry. It''s my understanding that one of the reasons for the transfer window in the first place was to stop the richer clubs being able to buy their way out of trouble if key players got injured. But the reality is that they are able to buy their way out of trouble before the season starts by assembling a squad of top players big enough to cope with any eventuality. Then huge salaries are paid to players who fans rarely get the chance to watch where as poorer clubs are often left with threadbare squads that have been decimated by injury. I don''t believe the transfer window system has any real good points and would quite happily revert back to the way things used to be.  
  14. [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"] And I thought we were a single point off the relegation zone, with only one win in 5 with many of the new players who have done so well having their future in the balance?? I think 71 was the lowest tally for the play-offs in championship history, so we aren''t worrying anyone just yet, Leicester, Scunny, Preston and Colchester apart... [/quote] I hope Roeder doesn''t use your material for his team talks CJF [;)]  
  15. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] The same way you always repeatedly do the stats to support your assertion that Doherty is the best central defender of the lot. I presume you are resiling from doing the stats on my assertion because the result doesn''t please you. OTBC [/quote] Lets just get one thing straight between us Babes. When I watch games I notice things and then I check the stats to see if they back up my opinion. I noticed Doc was our best defender so I checked it out. I noticed we were a much better side for Fotheringhams contribution so I checked it out. I don''t form an opinion on the stats alone and neither do I form an opinion through somebody elses eyes. What to you base your opinions on?  
  16. [quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Why does Shackell play so much better alongside Martin Taylor than alongside Gary Doherty? Step up Nutty Nigel. Let''s hear from you as the board ''expert'' on central defenders. OTBC P.S. I bet you Nutty argues that my assertion is not true. Shhhhhhhh....... [/quote] Why don''t the two of you put your handbags away and stimulate discussion on a more expansive basis. For example, if we still have less squad strength than we need and, assuming we are able to acquire Taylor, and Croft and others show improvement at putting crosses in the box, how about using Gary Doherty up front to knock some people around and create more loose balls to fall to Cureton to poke them home. Doherty can then not only alternate with Dublin but it gives us good options from the bench in case we experience injuries at the front or the back. Now, you see how easy it is to stimulate good discussion even if one is not attending the matches. Now tell me to bring my handbag if I want to come to your fight. [/quote] They are interesting points Yankee but I for one am glad that Roeder uses players in the positions they are strongest in. I was always so critical of playing Dublin at centre back and then sticking him up front after we went a couple of goals down. If we sign Taylor, which I hope we do, it would add to competition for places and I have every confidence in Roeder picking the best pair to play. The role for the player left out would be to win his place back at the first opportunity. Having said that, Dublin and Doherty are far more useful subs than Taylor and Shackell simply because they can be used in alternative positions in needed. Don''t join the fight until it''s nearly over Yankee [;)][:D] Ooops... I didn''t mean it ... I''m not really Cluck back to haunt you [;)]  
  17. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Do the stats on my assertion Nigel, I dare you. Just like you do to back up your own assertions. As for giving up, that''s for...............Shame on you. OTBC   [/quote] I gave up because I don''t know the answer Babes. How do you ''do the stats'' to show Shackell plays better beside Taylor? I don''t see him play better or worse. I don''t see Shackells positional play or passing any better whoever he plays beside. He seems to be fast becoming a whipping boy now that people are beginning to leave Doherty alone. That''s not going to help him and while we are looking quite tight defensively it''s probably unneccessary. What part of Shackells game do YOU see improved beside Taylor? What games did you think he looked better in?  
  18. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Said Nigel Where as Taylor was loaned because of Dohertys injury and when he went back Doherty was fit. Yes we miss him but not as much as we miss Fotheringham. A defenders job first and foremost is to defend. Doherty has played 14 league games in the centre of defence this season during which we have conceded 14 goals at an average of 1 per game. Taylor played 8 games and we conceded 12 goals at an average of 1.5 per game. These are the facts whether we like them or not. [a]  Nigel, I think that of more importance than your statistics on goals conceded when Doherty played as against when Taylor played are the match results when Doherty played as against the match results when Taylor played. Or will you ignore this analysis if it does not support your hypothesis? [b]  Was Taylor loaned because Doherty was injured - or because we have obviously needed another good central defender for a long time now. [c]  I agree about the pressing need for a good creative midfielder and have often voiced this. It''s not rocket science. In fact, most people see this critical need. The problem is that they are as scarce as sand on Brighton beach. Who do you recommend we go after that this board is prepared to acquire? The issue that is bugging people about Taylor (nobody thinks he''s a Steve Bruce or Dave Watson) is that if the board cannot afford 1-1.25 million for him, plus a decent creative midfielder plus a decent, strong striker - then we must be in a pretty poor way.  I know you like to reply to little selective parts of threads and ignore the rest,  but could you please prioritise the the response to point [a] above? You see, it''s not ultimately about goals conceded or goals scored - it''s about balance and achieving effective football with available resources in the prevailing circumstances. The end result of that is points garnered and in the bag. OTBC [/quote] a] Surely defences are judged first and foremost by the amount of goals they concede. I have already told you that in my opinion the return of Fotheringham has been instrumental in our better results. That''s my opinion based on what I see, what have YOU seen to make you think I am wrong. b] I would suggest Taylor was loaned for both the reasons but was prioritised because of Dohertys injury. The alternative was Shackell / Murray who were awful together. What did you think when you saw them Babes? c] Surely Fotheringham is that creative midfielder that we were missing. He was injured and we didn''t have cover, we still don''t have cover now. IMO it''s that cover we need. Last season at Preston we got a glimpse of what Fotheringham could be for us and whenever he is in the team he has a real positive effect on all aspects of our play. What do you think of Fotheringham Babes? I can''t honestly remember you ever mentioning him. Priority] It''s not been me talking about the board and I don''t have an answer to these points except to wait and see what happens. I have no idea what we offered. Karen Brady said we didnt make an offer so I expect we didn''t. But she also said we didn''t offer enough so I expect we did make an offer. What to believe? Good performance today, Fotheringham back saw us passing the ball on the floor and winning an excellent point away from home in what was our best away performance of the season - Taylor or no Taylor. What did you think Babes? Feel free to answer this on two or three new threads if you like [;)]  
  19. Croft played well today, he looks a better player when we pass the ball on the ground. He worked hard and was tired when subbed but we missed him after he went off. Hucks was no replacement for Crofty today.  
  20. It''s always the same. The only plus is that we no longer go there twice a season!  
  21. Great passing football today, we would have taken a point before the game but a lot of us were disappointed not to get all three after. But a draw was the fair result after one of our better away performances in recent times. It''s amazing how important Fotheringham has become since Safri went. He has a positive effect on our attitude and our ability to get the ball down and play.  
  22. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Why does Shackell play so much better alongside Martin Taylor than alongside Gary Doherty? Step up Nutty Nigel. Let''s hear from you as the board ''expert'' on central defenders. OTBC P.S. I bet you Nutty argues that my assertion is not true. Shhhhhhhh....... [/quote] I give up babes.. Step up to the plate and tell me the games where you saw this happen?  
  23. [quote user="lucky green trainers"] i can''t be bothered to trawl through the stats, but i''m betting we scored more with taylor in the team than the doc.  its fair to say a strong back 4 gives the rest of the team confidence and the freedom to attack and create chances.  i believe taylor gives us this, and so has an edge over the doc.   for this reason, i think tiny is a top6 player, while the doc isn''t.  i don''t believe the doc and shax can ever get us up - and maybe wouldn''t be good enough to keep us up imo??? [/quote] I am sure the stats will prove that we scored more goals when Taylor was here. You and others put that down to his better quality playing the ball out of defence where as I put it down to the return of Fozzy in the midfield. Anyway, to prove a point and again to go back to the subject of this thread, the stats for the games where Fotheringham has featured this season show that the problems we had last season when we lost Safri haven''t gone away. Games where Fotheringham featured this season : P9 W6 D2 L1 F13 A6 Pts20      
  24. [quote user=" Desi Rascall"]   nigel, you appear to be in a minority of one when it comes to people who don''t think we played better more creative football when taylor was here, and you attack those who were positive about his contribution to the side as "flat earthers". Why? [/quote] Because, as with Safri last season, we still only have one creative midfielder and when he is missing we have nobody there who can pass the ball. In the summer we had Fotheringham and Safri, after Safri left we were back to square one with just Fotheringham. We never replaced Safri so when Fozzy got injured we lost all creativity from the midfield and it didn''t come back until he did. As soon as he was fit he came straight back into the side and played every game and was made captain, surely that alone tells you something. Now he is injured again we have nobody to replace him. Pattison and Russell were immense in the centre of midfield against Wolves because they worked their socks off and refused to be bullied but we needed to keep possession by passing the ball and it wasn''t really happeneing. Where as Taylor was loaned because of Dohertys injury and when he went back Doherty was fit. Yes we miss him but not as much as we miss Fotheringham. A defenders job first and foremost is to defend. Doherty has played 14 league games in the centre of defence this season during which we have conceded 14 goals at an average of 1 per game. Taylor played 8 games and we conceded 12 goals at an average of 1.5 per game. These are the facts whether we like them or not. Now I have never said I didn''t want us to sign Taylor, I would love to have him here. But this thread is about us having the same problem that we have had for a long time and to me that problem hasn''t been our defence, it has been our inability to create enough chances at the other end to build on a decent defensive record. So my number one priority in this transfer window would be a midfielder who can pass the ball just as it was in the summer and last January. If I am in a minority of one then so be it. I would suggest that we HAVE to sign a left back  as Drury is out for the season. Pattison is a must have for me, we would have been bullied out of it on Saturday without him, Russell and Doherty. Then I would be looking to sign that creative player for the midfield. Ched Evans or another striker to play alongside Cureton, and Taylor or another centre back would be my next priority. I don''t mind being in a minority of one Desi, because I call it as I see it. I don''t believe signing Taylor is the magic cure other posters seem to think it is. But having given the reasons for my point of view perhaps you could explain to me why signing Taylor would be better for the team than signing a creative player in the midfield. Or maybe you''d just like to attack me again ''babes style''.  
  25. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Ho ho ho. Game, set & match? Ho ho ho. OTBC [/quote] Tennis is probably your game Babes... That explains so much [:|] [/quote] Dear old Nigel, you do have such a propensity for getting things wrong. Dear, oh dear, oh dear. But on a more serious note my friend, what do you think are the prospects of the NCFC board adopting for 2008 a bolder vision coupled with a more aggressive posture? OTBC      [/quote] I don''t understand what this thread has to do with the board. I thought it was about the our problems in scoring goals opposed to our ok defence. It seems to me that certain posters on here are so fixated by Delia and the Chief Exec that every thread has to be about them. Dear, oh dear, oh dear. But on a more serious note what are your views on the fact that in the last 5 games we have only conceded 3 goals but only scored 5. Do you feel we should concentrate on strengthening the defence or look for more creativity in the midfield and another striking option beside Jamie? Oh for a Centre Court .... I mean Half .... Any one for tennis babes?  
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