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  1. Mr Carrow - nice to chat with you again [;)] I really am not ready for another browse through the accounts just yet or maybe even ever! We had a long discussion before where although we were not far apart in our views we both had different understandings of the details in the accounts. I was trusting and you were cynical of the motives of our board. One of us is probably right or maybe we are both half right, but it can only be opinion and I respect yours. However, you have confused me in this post because I don''t understand how we can keep offloading the clubs best players for millions and not bring in quality replacements. If there aren''t quality replacements then we couldn''t keep selling our best players for millions. Surely nobody is going to pay millions for cheap has-beens or never-were''s. From Ron Davies to Robert Earnshaw nothing has changed - our best players are sold for big money but quality replacements always seem to come from somewhere.    
  2. SOB - I disagree with me too if I said Safri wasn''t a good passer of the ball! [:D] I just don''t think he''s particularly creative. He plays very deep and he is the sort of player the oppo hate especially if they are creative players who want a little time on the ball because Saf gets amongst them upsets their rhythm and kicks (not always the ball either). I think Etuhu is a good passer of the ball too but I don''t know about Brellier because I have never seen him play. I think a lot of our problems in the last few seasons have been caused by the whole team playing too deep. I guess apart from Hucks the most creative player we have had in that time is probably McVeigh. But so often these guys got the ball in their own half or just past the halfway line. Creativity or a little trick in that area may get a bit of space to start a move but if the whole team was further up the pitch that creativity or trick could be on the edge of the box and could result in a goal. Like I said on the other thread - one of my favourite goals last season was the second at Hull where Etuhu won the ball in the midfield set Hucks away and then sprinted into the box to get on the end of  the resulting cross. Simple but effective, moving the ball forward quickly so Huckerby could be creative in the final third. My favourite goal was Huckerbys 45 yard run and shot to beat Birmingham. It was a case of the creative player recieving the ball deep and still managing to score. However the first example where the creative player got the ball early and in space higher up the pitch is much more likely to produce a goal in my opinion.  
  3. [quote user="norfolkbroadslim"] A timely reminder for what? [/quote] To wear sunscreen. If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice now. Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth. Oh, never mind. You will not understand the power and beauty of your youth until they''ve faded. But trust me, in 20 years, you''ll look back at photos of yourself and recall in a way you can''t grasp now how much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you really looked. You are not as fat as you can imagine. Don''t worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blind side you at 4 pm on some idle Tuesday. Do one thing every day that scares you. Sing. Don''t be reckless with other people''s hearts. Don''t put up with people who are reckless with yours. Floss. Don''t waste your time on jealousy. Sometimes you''re ahead, sometimes you''re behind. The race is long and, in the end, it''s only with yourself. Remember compliments you receive. Forget the insults. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how. Keep your old love letters. Throw away your old bank statements. Stretch. Don''t feel guilty if you don''t know what to do with your life. The most interesting people I know didn''t know at 22 what they wanted to do with their lives. Some of the most interesting 40-year-olds I know still don''t know. Get plenty of calcium. Be kind to your knees. You''ll miss them when they''re gone. Maybe you''ll marry, maybe you won''t. Maybe you''ll have children, maybe you won''t. Maybe you''ll divorce at 40, maybe you''ll dance the funky chicken on your 75th wedding anniversary. Whatever you do, don''t congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody else''s. Enjoy your body. Use it every way you can. Don''t be afraid of it or of what other other people think of it. It''s the greatest instrument you''ll ever own. Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. Read the directions, even if you don''t follow them. Do not read beauty magazines. They will only make you feel ugly. Get to know your parents. You never know when they''ll be gone for good. Be nice to your siblings. They''re your best link to your past and the people most likely to stick with you in the future. Understand that friends come and go, but with a precious few you should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more you need the people who knew you when you were young. Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard. Live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft. Travel. Accept certain inalienable truths: Prices will rise. Politicians will philander. You, too, will get old. And then you do you''ll fantasize that when you were young, prices were reasonable, politicians were noble, and children respected their elders. Respect your elders. Don''t expect anyone else to support you. Maybe you have a trust fund. Maybe you''ll have a wealthy spouse. But you never know when either one might run out. Don''t mess too much with your hair or by the time you''re 40 it will look like 85. Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more that it''s worth. But trust me on the sunscreen.  
  4. I don''t see Safri as a particularly creative player SOB. I see him as player who gets close to others in the midfield and breaks up play a lot. He doesn''t get forward that much, only to take a corner! Don''t get me wrong, I rate Safri but he''s certainly no Ian Crook. I like to see football played direct, I like ball winners and strong runners in the midfield. I like defenders to push up and hold a high line and the midfield get the ball forward quickly to the final third where the creative players like Huckerby can work their magic and do the damage. That''s the place to be creative!    
  5. [quote user="Dowp End"]We never know which Doc is going to show up---- In some games he has been tremendous and has been in the past the occasional game saver but they are a tad far and few between and how many times have we conceded goals from free kicks from his fouls-- never see him create a break from defence and only seems to find touch---Still like him but am very undecided---Is very much looking like a Div 1 bruiser nowadays I feel-- [/quote] I would be quite happy for Doherty to be replaced if we could get better as I would any other player. He is not the best centreback ever to play for us and neither is he the worst. He has his faults and it doesn''t help his cause that he appears awkward and ungainly and when he makes an error it''s sometimes of catastrophic proportions. Having said that I believe he is a better defender than he gets credit for and I don''t understand why posters continually make up stuff to discredit him. How many times have you seen us concede goals from Doherty''s fouls Dowp End? I go to most games home and away and I only remember once, the second goal against Plymouth but even that was widely regarded as a refereeing error. We have conceded more goals from freekicks conceded by Shackell and Dublin. He also passes the ball out of defence better than Shackell and I''ve seen goals scored after he has found the space for Hucks to exploit. Two that immediately spring to mind are the first goal at Tamworth last season and the goal Hucks scored to beat the biners the season before. Most people seemed to expect Doherty to be on his bike this summer but Grant must see something and although I hope we sign a strong commanding centre back I have no doubt that The Doc can do a good job for us at this level.    
  6. [quote user="blahblahblah"]It would be a real shame if this thread was to dislodge CHEESEBOARD from its'' number one position as longest thread. [/quote] If me and you start a fight and get really abusive that nice fella Pete will lock it up.. what do you think??? [:@] [:P]  
  7. What I think is that if a player we sign wants a relase clause and it''s reasonable it''s up the the manager to decide whether he still wants that player. I should imagine these clauses are a lot more common than people realise. Earnshaws wasn''t unreasonable IF (as I understand it) it only kicked in at the end of last season and we got a reasonable fee. Players and their agents seem to call the shots these days and it''s throughout the game, not just at this club. I''m not saying I agree with it but there isn''t anything we can do about it.  
  8. I asked yesterday..... Would it be prudent or ambitious to save some money for the January window, especially if we are in a position to push on for promotion. I''m not saying that''s what''s going to happen though. Neither am I saying it''s what I believe is going to happen. I was just asking [:^)] Bly my friend... your memory plays tricks on you at times.. Stringer came through the ranks in a similar way to Shackell.... Watson was a Liverpool reserve when we signed him similar to Doherty at Spurs... Bruce was with Gillingham in the lower leagues similar to Ostemboor or Drury.... Phelan came from the dizzy heights of Burnley similar to Etuhu from Preston... Townsend was aplayer who came good after playing 100+ non league games he was given his chance at Southampton by Lowry McMenemy but he was unhappy there for some reason and we got him for 300,000. I can''t liken this signing to anyone really ''cept maybe Earnie... Robert Fleck was a big signing from a big club, so was Huckerby... David Cross was someone you never heard of from Rochdale probably not a lot different at the time to Brown or this Czech guy if we get him. I''m not saying the comparisons I make are as good as your list of players Bly.. what I am saying is the strategy is the same.  
  9. Hucks has to play up front for me too. I always liked 442 but I’m not sure it will suit the players Grant is bringing in. 442, with what we have now, would be something like:- Marshall Ostemboor Doherty Shackell Drury Chadwick/Croft Breiller Etuhu Lappin Cureton Huckerby It doesn’t excite me anymore and I can’t fit another striker in or Safri (If he’s staying) because I really want Etuhu in my midfield. I know a squad needs strength in depth but we all want the strongest players or even our personal favourites to start. The Christmas Tree could look like:- Marshall Ostemboor Doherty Shackell Drury Safri Etuhu Brellier Cureton Huckerby Czech/Dublin/Brown I like that better. Etuhu could get forward into the spaces made by Huckerby and Cureton dragging defenders around. The fullbacks could get forward with Safri and Brellier sitting deep. But no place for Chadwick Lappin or Croft. But we would need to sign another CM for when Safri is missing. I guess you would replace Etuhu with an Ian Crook type player though? I’d quite happily get the ball forward quickly for the target man to lay off to Huckerby / Cureton. I believe that if your players are strong enough to win the game all footballers at this level are capable of playing attractive football. With Huckerby and Cureton playing in this role I expect to see more goals like the second goal at Hull where Etuhu won the ball in midfield and quickly set Huckerby away before rushing deep in the box to get on the end of Hux cross. Fast, strong and direct football! I love it!! Now I''m rambling! Roll on August [:)]  
  10. [quote user="Arthur Whittle"] On a different note, why didnt George Burley, a man who nows Brellier inside out, not go for him this time round? Im not to clued up on the southampton squad so it could be a case of not needing him/better players already. can anyne maybe give me there view? [/quote] I don''t know why Arthur, but I''d have a guess that they couldn''t afford him.  
  11. [quote user="mbncfc"][quote user="nutty nigel"] Would it be prudent or ambitious to hold some of the money back for January? Just askin'' [;)] [/quote] ...for a fight [:P] [/quote] No Way [:''(] I thought cluck had established we were all pansies [W] [:-*]and have you seen that Ricky Knight?????????????  
  12. Like I said on the other thread - I don''t believe he has done nothing wrong. He always gave 100% both home and away and for Worthington and Grant. Anyone else remember those two dreadful games last autumn, Plymouth away and Burnley at home? Anyone else remember Earnie carrying on till the end of both games through commitment to the cause and personal pride? He scored late in both games, long after the result wasn''t in doubt, and that speaks volumes for the man and type of character he is. We were lucky to have Earnshaw here, it didn''t work out as any of us would have liked but I for one wish him well.  
  13. [quote user="The Penguin"] [quote user="Smudger"]Mid-table to bottom half.[/quote] The most positive statement i have ever seen from The Smudger !! [/quote] I was thinkin'' that [:)] But in reality I think he has a lot of bases covered there, posssibly from 7th to 24th! Am I right Smudge [:P]  
  14. Fair points 7rew, I have no idea about transfer fees, agents fees, signing on fees, wages. I''m not sure how much they are or what budget they come out of and anyone who says they do is surely telling porkies. The latest information we have about players wages and transfer fees and the like is from the season before last. I would love to know peoples opinions on this:- Would it be prudent or ambitious to hold some of the money back for January? Just askin'' [;)]  
  15. [quote user="FilletTheFishWife ."] i''m spartacus[/quote] No... I''m.... not going to do it [:P]  
  16. [quote user="Cluck "] I save my anger for Londoners...... [/quote] [8]Maybe it''s because I''m a Londoner [:^)] That Old Cluck hates me so [:@] Maybe it''s because I''m a Londoner [:^)] That he slags me off wherever I go [:@] I get a funny feeling inside of me [:|] When Old Cluck runs me down [:''(] Maybe it''s because I''m a Londoner That I love London Town [U] Alfie Bass, Thomas Beckett, David Beckham, William Blake, Marc Bolan, David Bowie, Max Bygraves, Michael Caine, Charlie Chaplin, Geoffrey Chaucer, Windsor Davies, Bud Flanagan, Sir John Gielgud, Alec Guinness, Alfred Hitchcock, David Jason, Vera Lynn, Dudley Moore, Bruce Oldfield, Oliver Reid, Mike Reid, Alan Sugar, Tommy Steele, Kenneth Williams.. We’re not all bad … ‘onest guv… [N] But then again[*-)]….Samanfer Fox, Kray Twin, Jerry Springer, Janet Street-Porter, Barbara Windsor… Maybe ‘The old Boy’ has a point [Y] [B]  
  17. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Anybody like to attempt a reasoned analysis? OTBC [/quote] Ok.. howabout... if CJF [8-|] can''t find anything to moan about they must be top drawer! [;)]  
  18. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"]I notice that Southampton have agreed a £680,000 fee to sign Saganowski too. According to the prudence with relegation brigade Southampton were about to go into a Leeds-style meltdown.......[/quote] As it was me that drew everybody''s attention to Southamptons plight I''d just like to point out that I never mentioned Leeds and just thought the comparisons between the clubs could be of interest as we were relegated at the same time and are losing parachute payments at the same time. Southampton actually got in 6m? for Bale and 400,000 for Cranie. They apparently allowed Burley 680,000 for Saganowski then told him that he has to wheel and deal to sign anyone else. I keep an eye on Southampton since that thread and this is what was reported on Saturday :- http://www.thisishampshire.net/mostpopular.var.1509749.mostviewed.different_faces_but_directors_noises_are_still_the_same.php
  19. I am by nature a positive fan and I am proud of my yellow and green welding goggles [8-|] through which I see our club in all its glory. But I am not getting carried away yet and would like to remind everyone that most people were more than happy with Colin, MLJ, Hoooooze, Jarrett, Marney and Thorne until they saw them play. I am quietly hopeful though [;)]  
  20. [quote user="Mello Yello"]I''m currently a male escort..........and one day, I hope to be one of those new male mondeo''s....[:|][/quote] And I''m a Dutchman''s Uncle............... Well actually no.. not really..... I''m Delia''s cousin [:-*] [;)] [:P]    
  21. [quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"] I too have a problem that Dion will only play 50% of games (and that he will continue to train in Villa) NN.  As far as playing so few games, Safri only missed 11 leagues games.      [/quote] There were also 3/4 games where Safri played 30 mins or less from the bench either because he wasn''t deemed fit enough to start or because (having studied the stats) the manager was stupid! The previous season when there was ANC Safs missed 16 games. That''s why I couldn''t realistically expect more than 25 this coming season. Like with Dion earlier this summer I''m not sure about Safri''s value to us next season. He has undoubtedly been our best midfielder over the last two seasons and the stats show prove the impact he has on the performances. But like the others he has been part of a team that has consistently underperformed and not at anytime challenged for promotion. Grant is assembling his own squad of players now. Over the years I have noticed that the new managers always tend to play their signings over the players they inherit so the signing of Breiller could well herald Safris departrure anyway. ZLF - I would be interested to know your thoughts on what formation we could be playing next season. You convinced me that Hux should play up front and I am still firmly in that camp. But with the new signings and potential signings how do you see it fitting together?  
  22. [quote user="FramCanary"] Why is it - that it was no surprise to learn that Grant was unaware of the outrageously small ''escape clause'' in Earnshaw''s contract or that negotiations over his departure were at an advanced stage, until he received a phone call late on Wednesday night to say that the player was about to undertake a medical at Derby prior to signing a contract. Indeed Grant (reading between the lines in today''s EDP) is incensed at the way in which the board have handled the whole affair. He effectively states that he was trying to sign Sharp or Eastwood to partner Earnshaw, and that he intended to acquire Cureton as back-up for Earnie. He now admits that his transfer plan needs a complete re-think. QUITE UNBELIEVABLE - that a professional football club can be run like this. Clearly, the escape clause in Etuhu''s contract (thought to be £1.5m - although Grant will be as in the dark over this as us!) will be activated shortly, and yet another key player will be gone. ENDLESS MISTAKES & A TENURE OF FAILURE, TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote]  Does "reading between the lines" and "effectively states" really warrant such a rant? Quoting the actual text this is what Grant did state:- Speculation had been mounting over Earnshaw''s future, but Grant admitted he was surprised when Derby called. "I didn''t think we would lose Earnie, I genuinely thought, where would he go in the Premier League," said Grant. "Is it somebody who was there last year or one of the new boys?" This would suggest that Grant knew of the clause but didn’t think anyone in the Premier League would activate it. But then Grant says so many things sometimes because on the same day he says:- "Earnie has come right out of the blue," he said. "We got an offer on Wednesday, but it set alarm bells ringing in my mind - obviously someone was selling him behind my back. "I think the way things moved as quickly and Earnie ending up having the medical as quickly, you can sense that it had obviously been going on, which is the modern day game, unfortunately. It''s disappointing in the respect of the way it happened." And he goes on to say:- "Unfortunately it is not just this club - all 92 clubs, even the smallest clubs, there will be the same thing: permission to speak at x, y and z amount of money." And while the clause has worked against Grant this time, he admits he used it to City''s benefit in January when Simon Lappin joined City from St Mirrren. "We used it with Simon Lappin because we knew he had it and we had information that he had a buy-out in his contract - that is the nature of the beast, although pre-warning is not a bad thing." Grant say’s so many things every time he talks that it can get confusing but I can find no mention of Sharp or Eastwood or where he said his transfer plans need a complete re-think. Can you point me to those bits Fram?  
  23. [quote user="One Flew Over..."] Also why does it seem that Shackell and Doherty have not improved "strategically" - as in where to be, what to do when etc. Surely this is stuff that can be coached and doesn''t rely on natural ability. Do we have a defensive coach like a goalkeeping coach? [/quote] This is a fair point but as I stated in my post  I believe that the goalkeeping shambles of last season and trying to implement zonal marking with a goalkeeper who couldn''t win the ball in any zones made Doherty and Shackell look worse than they were. Doherty got POS the previous season playing in front of Greeno.  
  24. [quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"] The difference with earnie and safri is that without earnie we still won games and scored goals;    whether for worthy or grant we simply do not win games of football without safri making an appearance;  it shows that our central midfield (and  team as its the engine room) performs better with him in (even when he doesnt play well) that now where to be seen.  Comapre that to not having etuhu in the side - I suspect there wont be much difference Safri playing does not mean we always win - he has been a long way from consistent  - but he has a bite in the tackle and is disruptive to opponents in the same way holt was - and as the likes of stiles, deschamps, dunga, makalele and even vinny jones have shown before having that influence in the side makes a big difference;   Etuhu et al simply do not have that presence. Selling him is a bigger mistake than losing earnie,  we need to be bolstering that part of the pitch not losing players who really make us successful.  If its not an issue that Dion is only likely to play 50% of games why is it for Safri?   [/quote] I believe it is an issue that Dion is likely to play only 50% of games. And there was plenty of discussion on here before he signed his new contract where people were concerned about losing the parachute money and then Dublin taking up a wage as a player who will probably be used sparingly. So I believe it’s even more of an issue to have both Dublin and Safri in the squad for next season. Since these posts were written we have signed Brellier who could be seen as direct competition or replacement for Safri. Ideally we could keep Safri and have a bit of strength in depth in the centre of midfield but maybe the budget won’t stretch to two big wages for players who are only likely to play 50% of games.  
  25. Safri has been very important to us over the last two seasons. The following stats prove this without doubt :- Games where Safri featured: P64 W30 D10 L24 F86 A78 Pts100 that''s an average of 1.56 points per game. Over a 46 game season we would finish on 72 points just outside the play offs IF Safri played every game. Games where Safri didn''t feature: P28 W4 D6 L18 F26 A58 Pts18 that''s an average of .64 points per game. Over a 46 game season we would finish 0n 30 points and be relegated without Safri. On the basis of those stats the obvious thing to do would be to build the mid-field around Safri, improve the rest of the side and then we make the play-offs at least. But the problem with that is that Safri would never play the 46 games. Over the last 2 seasons he has averaged 32 games and quite a few of those 32 were from the subs bench because he wasn''t fit enough to play two games a week in what is the gruelling schedule of championship football. If Safri is here next season I would think anything more than 25 starts would be a bonus and for this reason alone I am of  the opinion that it would not be a bad thing if he went despite the damning stats. However, we would have to replace him with a player of similar qualities who could compete week in week out in this league and such a player would not come cheaply.  
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