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  1. nutty nigel

    on that performance i wouldnt...

    [quote user="Cluck"]

    Oh dear....I don''t know why I try to reason with you Nutty.....but if it helps.....you''re right and I''m wrong once again and I''ll just have to try to live with it........

    [/quote]

    And I s''pose you''re Dad''s bigger than my Dad too!

    I guess you''re not going to tell us all about Trevor Senior then.......

     

  2. nutty nigel

    on that performance i wouldnt...

    [quote user="Cluck"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    Cluck

    I have no idea why he wasn''t a permanent fixture in the West Brom side. You would hace to ask Mr. Robson. He scored a hat-trick one week and was on the bench the next.

    In WBA''s 2004/5 Premier season Earnshaw scored 14 goals in 20 starts and 14 sub appearances. So even if you class all the sub appearances as full games a return of 14 goals in 34 games for a struggling Premiership side is not the record of a player who was a total flop or even playing above his level.

    Why is it necessary to devalue everything to do with the Club we all say we support.

     

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    Why is it "devaluing" Earnshaw by classing him as a Chamionship player? He''s good....but not good enough to hold his own regularly in the Permiership. I''m hardly calling him a "rec" player. In the Premiership you can''t miss four chances and score one....which is what he does now.

    Time will tell....but I fear he is going to find his level at a club like Norwich and become a "local hero".  If you think that status is so worthless...maybe you''re just watching too much Premiership football on the telly.......

    [/quote]

    Maybe...

    I''m watching too much premiership football on the telly... maybe I only went to one game this season (Plymouth away)... maybe I don''t really have a season ticket to not renew... but there''s no maybe about Earnie scoring 14 goals in 20 starts (+14 sub) for a struggling club in the Premier League. You quote Trevor Senior (interestingly from another southern based club) What was his goalscoring record in the top division?

    I can only assume that this thread is a haven for people who have to find something to whinge about when Norwich win. As I said before, we will probably lose plenty more games before the end of the season so why not keep your powder dry until then.

    Baldyboy, you are forever the injured party on here after people have a pop! Have you ever wondered why?

     

  3. nutty nigel

    APPALLING DISTRIBUTION FROM THE BACK!

    [quote user="Bernard Futter"]For a variety of reasons I have not seen any live action this season and I have been a little surprised at the negative comment directed on this Board in Adam Drury''s direction, considering when I have seen him, to be a safe if unspectacular defender. After watching Saturday''s TV coverage, I was staggered at how poor his pass selection and accuracy was throughout the match. Every time he took a bead on a long pass you just knew that the next shot would be a red shirt running forward with the ball! Jason Shackell was not far behind in this department and Gary Doherty''s lumping of the ball into the stands at the merest whiff of danger was hardly Bobby Moore stuff. Methinks the manager has asked the back four (although I exempt Jurgen Colin from the charge) to get the ball out of the danger area as soon as possible, whatever the perceived threat level. This of course invites in the majority of cases the ball to come straight back... Shouldn''t we be aspiring to playing through from the back when the opportunity presents itself, or was Saturday an exception?[/quote]

    You were making a cup of tea when we scored the first goal then?

     

  4. nutty nigel

    Another deadline day disappointment?

    [quote user="Attack Barclay 2nd Half"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    So in answer to your question : Yes some of it is the boards fault. Since the transfer window system started our whole transfer policy has been reactive. And the lessons of past mistakes don''t appear to have been learned at boardroom level.

    [/quote]

    So taking the failed signing of Cotteril as an example, what do you think the staff at Carrow Road could have done differently, which will be interesting when you clearly have no idea what the club DID do........

    Ashton was looked at in pre season, but Crewe / Ashton / Ashtons agent were awaiting bids from Liverpool and Tottenham. A huge amount of time was being spent addressing the Primus debacle as well as a couple of loans that proved to be quite succesful, one of which turned into a permanent transfer, one returned and the third, although bis for, decided to stay where he was and fight for his place.

    That. as they say, is history.

    And no, I am not Neil Doncaster. Another ''assumption''
    [/quote]

    No way are you Neil Doncaster, he may have many faults but being condescending isn''t one of them.

    Yes of course if you take the failed signing of Cotteril as an example any fool can see the amount of effort Doncaster put into trying to get him here. It was all in his newspaper column! However, if we identified a player we were prepared to pay that amount of money for why didn''t we try and sign him a little bit earlier.

    I am not a poster who looks for reasons to criticise the club but our transfer policy of recent seasons has been poor and whatever spin you put on it can''t hide the facts.

    If you believe a huge amount of time spent on trying to get Primus here is an excuse for not getting Ashton here when Worthy wanted him then you must also believe that the club wanted Primus above Ashton.

    Nigel Worthington himself said last summer that the Board needed to be proactive rather than reactive and they hadn''t learned the lessons of not signing Ashton earlier. How is it you know more than he does?

     

  5. nutty nigel

    Another deadline day disappointment?

    [quote user="Attack Barclay 2nd Half"]You make me laugh. Just how many players that we might want are actually available? Now subtract the ones we cant afford. Now subtract the ones that dont want to play for a club of our stature. Deduct now the ones who dont want to live in Norfolk.

    Is any of that the boards fault?

    Look at the lengths that they went to to sign Primus. Cotterill. Howard, and many many more that didn''t happen IN SPITE of the hours and hours of work, the hundreds of miles travelled.

    No you must be right. The board are obviously doing their utmost to sqander the £20 a fortnight you cough up (plus a couple of quid on local rags to help formulate your opinions from the away reports) so that they can write off the 100''s of £k they have ploughed into the club - God forbid they actually get a return on any investment they make, greedy bastards eh? What does somebody who spends most of their free time (in most cases unpaid) working at/for the club know about football and the running of the club anyway? Daily contact with the players, coaching staff and financial reports cant hold a candle to us keyboard warriors when it comes to judgement on buying players and keeping the club viable. If it wasn''t for them know nuffins we''d be the biggest club in Europe by now

    Engage brains boys and girls please........
    [/quote]

    I think I have engaged my brain into memory mode and although it''s a bit hazy I remember Roger Munby telling us last summer that the manager tells the board the players he has targeted and they try and do the deal. But despite what you say I don''t believe they tried very hard. While my brain is still engaged I remember Neil Doncaster saying that Norwich City would not be left behind in the race to snap up summer signings saying: “We do need more players, we have a budget to spend and we will deliver those players.”

    Nigel Worthington hit the nail squarely on the head when he said “We have to be proactive rather than reactive. We signed Dean Ashton in January instead of pre-season and I think the lesson should have been learned from that."

    So in answer to your question : Yes some of it is the boards fault. Since the transfer window system started our whole transfer policy has been reactive. And the lessons of past mistakes don''t appear to have been learned at boardroom level.

     



     

  6. nutty nigel

    on that performance i wouldnt...

    Cluck

    I have no idea why he wasn''t a permanent fixture in the West Brom side. You would hace to ask Mr. Robson. He scored a hat-trick one week and was on the bench the next.

    In WBA''s 2004/5 Premier season Earnshaw scored 14 goals in 20 starts and 14 sub appearances. So even if you class all the sub appearances as full games a return of 14 goals in 34 games for a struggling Premiership side is not the record of a player who was a total flop or even playing above his level.

    Why is it necessary to devalue everything to do with the Club we all say we support.

     

  7. nutty nigel

    Delia where r u?

    I don''t know why Delia wasn''t at Tamworth. I would guess she was either away or couldn''t go for personal reasons. I think she would have gone otherwise, because like the rest of us she wouldn''t have wanted to stay home and watch on tv or the wireless.

    Mello makes a very good point on here about the fact Delia isn''t our saviour. He is totally correct in stating that it was Geoffrey Watling that saved the club. It was only the fact that Geoffrey Watling brought Chase''s shares and put up seven-figure guarantees at the bank that kept the wolves from the door. It was after the club was saved that Delia and MWJ were invited to invest in the club for a seat on the board.

    Delia''s support for this football club is the same as any other fan. I can say with 100% certainty that thre is no ulterior motive in her "up front support" on her part. I have sympathy with Clucks point of view because I agree that her presence at this match in particular would have attracted the media spotlight away from both teams. But where Cluck and I would probably disagree is that I believe that Delia doesn''t promote her own publicity and in fact tries to avoid it. However the club is quite happy to promote her publicity and does very well out of it. Yes I know Delia and MWJ are majority shareholders but that doesn''t mean they make all the decisions. In fact I believe the only decisions they are party to are the appointment of people they trust to run the various parts of Norwich City Football Club.

    Delia doesn''t just visit the top clubs ronbol ronbol, I am a sad fan who goes to as many games as possible (because I choose to) and I am used to seeing Delia from time to time sitting with the fans. I remember a Tuesday night match at Stockport a few years ago, Delia was sat with us, and the liquid was a panda pop lemonade. But she didn''t promote publicity for being there so if you weren''t there you would have missed it.

     

     

     

  8. nutty nigel

    on that performance i wouldnt...

    [quote user="Cluck"]

    As much as I enjoy watching him...I don''t think Earnshaw is Premiership quality and at a bigger club he would live on the bench. He scores well given numerous chances each game...but in the Prem such chances are rare....and any manager would soon get frustrated with him.

    Rather like Trevor Senior at Reading....he scored for fun with them (two golden boot awards)....but when he tried to move up he was a total flop. Championship is Earnie''s level and he could still make a very good living staying there

    [/quote]

    Except that he has scored goals in the Premiership, he''s even scored a hat-trick there, so even though everyone has a right to their opinions on players abilities, rewriting history is going a tad OTT.

     

  9. nutty nigel

    on that performance i wouldnt...

    What is the point of this thread? Is it because we scored four and Earnshaw didn''t get any? How does this sit with the "take away Earnies goals and we will be relegated brigade"? Is it out of disappointment because we won? What is wrong with people on here! We will lose plenty more games in the future when posters will have loads of opportunities to moan about performances. Yes we were expected to win, but many posters on here thought we wouldn''t and many many more didn''t think we would win comfortably.

    Earnies record in the premiership is fine. He already has cut it in the prem so how can you say he certainly won''t??

     

     

     

  10. nutty nigel

    Delia where r u?

    [quote user="ronbol ronbol"][quote user="Chapman Baxter"]Why would it be interesting? Presumably she had another commitment. Any excuse for a dig.

    [S]

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    it''s not a dig just the fact it was expected she would attend. tamworth fans had an interest to see her and i am sure she would have loved the attention.
    I only hope she did not go in case we lost the match and she was afraid the city fans would turn against her.

    [/quote]

    That''s a ridiculous post from someone who obviously doesn''t go to away games. I am not criticising you for not going but if you did go you would know that Delia, MWJ, Doncaster and Munby don''t hide from the fans even after the most disappointing away performances of recent years!

    Any excuse for a dig seems about right to me!

     

  11. nutty nigel

    grants words

    [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]

    [quote user="chicken"]Great! If we get another Earnshaw I will not be complaining. He was a panic buy if your spin is to be believed Wiz.[/quote]

    to be fair Chicken the 3.5 million we spent on Earnshaw hasnt exactly done us a lot of good has it...  I am sure there are managers whom have spent 3.5 million in this division on players and actually seen their team climb the league!!

    [/quote]

    Was Earnie 3.5m CJF?

    [/quote]

    Did we get 2 million for Green?  or 600K for Mckenzie?

    Apparantly we have paid 2.9 million for Earnie so far.  But as the club quote the above figures I will quote the same.

    [/quote]

    Ok.. was just asking cuz with Smudgers "Malky went for free" and your "3.5m for Earnshaw" by my reckoning 2 posters have cost the club a cool million in one weekend!

     

     

  12. Two very good posts about another change in the rules that has made life difficult for clubs like ours.

    As I understand it the transfer window is designed to stop the rich clubs being able to buy success so easily. In theory it should mean that clubs have to work with the squad they start the season with. In practice the rich clubs have a bigger squad so still hold an advantage and that advantage is multiplied by the fact that clubs with smaller squads are restricted from replacing injured players until January.

    The examples Kenning (Is your username because of Mike Kenning?)  lists are from days when there were no restrictions and transfers took place at anytime right through to March. Often targets were identified at the start of the season but clubs were reluctant to sell at that time as they all had high hopes of a succesful season. However, come October and a club like Rochdale could be going nowhere in midtable. Norwich come along and offer £40,000 for David Cross and it''s a good deal for all parties. But in these days of transfer windows Rochdale can''t cash in until January so it''s in their interests to encourage an auction and then the odds are stacked against us. Not just our reluctance to overpay for players but also because with the player having a bigger choice of clubs our location suddenly counts against us too.

    Against this background maybe posters can see how I can be impressed by Worthingtons abilities in getting Huckerby, Ashton, Earnshaw and even Crouch on loan to the club.

     

  13. nutty nigel

    Consider this O Faithful Ones!.

    The "season ticket scam" is a mystery to me. Surely the club would make much more money if more seats were sold casually?????

    I am considering whether to renew my season ticket next season......

    It must be all this negative spin from those farsighted posters that is making me question this because normally I can''t wait to renew...

    ok.. thought about it..

    I am gonna renew!

    Wish I wasn''t so gullible and so easily taken in by the spin from those evil people who run our glorious club!

    Or do I??????

     

     

     

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    grants words

    [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]

    [quote user="chicken"]Great! If we get another Earnshaw I will not be complaining. He was a panic buy if your spin is to be believed Wiz.[/quote]

    to be fair Chicken the 3.5 million we spent on Earnshaw hasnt exactly done us a lot of good has it...  I am sure there are managers whom have spent 3.5 million in this division on players and actually seen their team climb the league!!

    [/quote]

    Was Earnie 3.5m CJF?

     

  15. nutty nigel

    Sacreliege

    [quote user="ray ducker"]

     Big bloke up front ? with a footballing brain , you mean Thorne don''t you ?

    [/quote]

    Ray Ducker sir, you are not so far off the mark as you may think. The Peter Thorne of his Stoke and Cardiff days would be perfect up front with Earnie. Unfortunately the forever injured, never fit Thorne that we have can''t do the job.

    I see no advantage in selling Earnshaw unless there is an offer that we really can''t refuse. Of course if the player himself chooses to move there''s little we can do except get the best price we can. I see no reason why Earnshaw would want to move to many of the clubs that are reportedly showing interest, what possible reason would he have to sign for the likes of Watford. He may of course be tempted by a move to Blackburn if they were interested.

    The original poster makes valid points about Earnshaws conversion rate and it should also be pointed out that no other player has weighed in with a significant number of goals. Huckerby has only scored 3 and his conversion rate is probably even worse than Earnshaws. This situation is a direct result of plaing Earnshaw as a loan striker and when we have been able to play 442 with Dublin beside him the signs are that they will make chances for eachother. Dublin has scored 3 goals and hasnt played many games as a striker, his conversion rate is therefore better.

    I still believe our best chance of getting points in this league is to play 442 with Dublin starting up front beside Earnshaw and hopefully we can get 20 minutes a week out of the unfit Peter Thorne. I also believe a targetman who can hold the ball up, bring others into the game and score goals to be a priority in the summer. And the Board have to realise that these players cost more than £500,000!

     

  16. nutty nigel

    If its on TV we lose

    I can remember us playing non league teams in the FA Cup 3 times. We won 3-0 at Yeovil, 8-0 against Sutton but really struggled to beat Dagenham 1-0 a few seasons ago. So one trend has to be broken and lets hope its the TV one!

     

  17. nutty nigel

    Eyesore to open in April

    Shame cuz "jas the hotel king" won''t have the same ring to it.  [:)]

     

     

  18. nutty nigel

    City are 26= to.............

    [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

    And you can get 6/1 on Tamworth beating City.

    [/quote]

    It''ll be nice to see so many regular posters on here "in the money" on Saturday afternoon! Surely 6/1 is too big for such a certainty! Does anyone know what the odds are for the double? (defeat to Tamworth and relegation).

     

  19. nutty nigel

    Eyesore to open in April

    [quote user="sheded"]

    Holiday inns  do NOT put money into their hotels  without researching  the idea from all angles !   they will have done their homework .....   the buildings a bit stark now , but should look better when its finished .

    A lease has strings attached  , we don`t know the terms , do we ?    and a 30% income from profits   sounds like a no risk  deal to me !   I find  the " League "  costing  quite funny , and the prices more than reasonable !   I know some are going to hate me for saying this ( whats new ? )  but I see that hotel   being a success  { much to Wiz`s chagrin [:P] ) 

    [/quote]

    Sheded.. I am amazed that Holiday Inns didn''t consult posters on here who could have told them how the hotel will fail. For a company that size to make a decision without consulting the wise folk on here is nothing short of a disgrace! (Using the D word must be catching)

    Of course it could be a success and bring in a nice income to the club but if that becomes the case then we will hear no more about it on here, unless it''s to suggest the money is going staight into delialalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalas purse to "reclaim her initial investment".

     

  20. nutty nigel

    Delia Smith Ringtone

    [quote user="Smudger"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    I have no problem with people who have different views to me, thats what messageboards are about. However, I do have a problem with people who make stuff up and post it on here to show the club and/or the players in a bad light. And, I will go even further and say that anyone who makes up stuff to show the club and/or players in a bad light cannot possibly be a true fan or a real fan or, in fact, any sort of fan at all!

    As said by another poster just the other day... digest that at your leisure!

     

     

     

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    I hope that isn''t refering to me.... because evrything that I have stated has been truth and/or comment from the club  itself...

    Discuss at your leisure...

    Like Ricky says, I don''t give a monkeys what anybody thinks, time will prove me and a few others right... and those of you that have towed the party line wrong...

    I am sure of that and will await your apologies...  not that I would expect any because that is of no importance to me...

    What is of importance to me is that Delia & Co stop ripping the Norfolk public off!!!

    [/quote]

    "We let Malky go for free"?

    Please explain to me where that is the truth and/or comment from the club itself...

    I am sure its not and I await your apologies.. not that I expect any and its no importance to me either.

    I honestly don''t feel I am being ripped off by Delia. Am I seriously the only person on this board who feels that way??

     

    [/quote]

    ok for £250,000 or £300,000... so what may as well of been for free!!!

    [/quote]

    so did the club say £300,000 may as well be free, or the bank, or is it the truth??  [8-)]

     

  21. nutty nigel

    Delia Smith Ringtone

    [quote user="Smudger"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    I have no problem with people who have different views to me, thats what messageboards are about. However, I do have a problem with people who make stuff up and post it on here to show the club and/or the players in a bad light. And, I will go even further and say that anyone who makes up stuff to show the club and/or players in a bad light cannot possibly be a true fan or a real fan or, in fact, any sort of fan at all!

    As said by another poster just the other day... digest that at your leisure!

     

     

     

    [/quote]

    I hope that isn''t refering to me.... because evrything that I have stated has been truth and/or comment from the club  itself...

    Discuss at your leisure...

    Like Ricky says, I don''t give a monkeys what anybody thinks, time will prove me and a few others right... and those of you that have towed the party line wrong...

    I am sure of that and will await your apologies...  not that I would expect any because that is of no importance to me...

    What is of importance to me is that Delia & Co stop ripping the Norfolk public off!!!

    [/quote]

    "We let Malky go for free"?

    Please explain to me where that is the truth and/or comment from the club itself...

    I am sure its not and I await your apologies.. not that I expect any and its no importance to me either.

    I honestly don''t feel I am being ripped off by Delia. Am I seriously the only person on this board who feels that way??

     

  22. nutty nigel

    belieeeeeeeeeeeeeve meeeeeee

    [quote user="ronbol ronbol"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    If KK''s dream comes true this board will be a quiet old place Saturday night and Sunday. If Smudger and friends are correct then the poor old Mods are gonna have a busy weekend! [;)]

     

    [/quote]

    I want this club to win no matter how I feel about the manager. If we win it''s going to be a great weekend - lose and the keyboard takes a hammering.
    [/quote]

    So does this mean that in your view this message board is only for ranting when we lose and  not a place to celebrate if we win?

    Perhaps we could have 2 boards. One for the weeks we win and one for when we lose!

     

  23. nutty nigel

    Delia Smith Ringtone

    I have no problem with people who have different views to me, thats what messageboards are about. However, I do have a problem with people who make stuff up and post it on here to show the club and/or the players in a bad light. And, I will go even further and say that anyone who makes up stuff to show the club and/or players in a bad light cannot possibly be a true fan or a real fan or, in fact, any sort of fan at all!

    As said by another poster just the other day... digest that at your leisure!

     

     

     

  24. nutty nigel

    You just don't know what excitement is.....

    [quote user="jas the barclay king"]

    not being an "old Codger" like the majority in this thread i have no such memories of days of yore!

    Suttons Header in the FA cup 1/4 final Replay, Sutch vs the Villa, Gozzas Goals, Efan Ekoku being the first Norwich player to socre a goal in europe, Motty Shouting "VALENCIA!!!! OH fine save by Bryan Gunn" in Munich when the big man spread himself infront of a point blank header to win us the biggest game in our history, Sutton and Foxys Dance, Chase out!, the playoff Final and the Premiership...

    Some fine memories of my 15 years as a fan... not sure we''ll see those days again.... dam shame... I still remember Sutton Running over to right infront of me when i was a boy after scoring the winner in that cup match.

    jas :)

    [/quote]

    I love being an old codger jas [:)]

    We''ll have good days again, you will probably have more than us old codgers.

    One thing all generations are owed is AN FA CUP FINAL!

    Sort it out Grant! [;)]

     

  25. nutty nigel

    Gary doherty

    [quote user="Smudger"]

    because I have seen better at Jewson League level

    [/quote]

    well I wish you would go on their jewson messageboard and share your jewson views with them for a little while! [;)]

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