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  1. nutty nigel

    REAL FANS !!

    [quote user="gissing canary"]I dont think this a debate about "true fans" and others.
    I think the post was actually saying how its nice to hear people talk with joy and enthusiasm about the club for once on here and not just moan about the general themes, but people who actually give there time up to go and meet players, and watch them train.
    Its just refreshing to hear enthusiasm and passion.

    [/quote]

    There were two posts on here yesterday, one from Jas and one from Angel. They were uplifing posts and I am proud of both the posters as I said on the relevent threads. This thread however, although the original post was not meant that way, is devisive which is why I posted what I did.

     

  2. nutty nigel

    Anyone Miss Brown?

    [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    http://new.pinkun.com/cs/forums/925893/ShowPost.aspx

    Check this out! More MOM''s than even Saf!

    The guy has played more games for us than anyone this season. He never cries off and has often played through painful injuries and against a background of abuse from some fickle fans.

    http://new.pinkun.com/cs/forums/926305/ShowPost.aspx

    Then check this out!

    This impresses me more than your continual rants and rubbish posted on other clubs messageboards.

    [/quote]

    I beleive what I see with my own eyes, and for much of this season I saw an ambler in midfield.  But as I said, good on him he is playing well of late, lets hope he keeps it up as he has the talent to be a top player.  [:D]

     

    [/quote]

    I respect that opinion CJF even though in my eyes, although I agree he has been inconsistent, he has still been are best midfielder over the season.

     

  3. nutty nigel

    Please change it!

    [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]

    [quote user="savenell"]why not have YMCA and everyone does the dance. [/quote]

    becausde we would leave ourselves open to having the piss ripped out of us. 

    Totally agrre with the original pster, the music has to change, its been that tune far too long

    [/quote]

    Howabout that music they play at the darts on sky??[:^)]

     

  4. nutty nigel

    REAL FANS !!

    Hope this opens the "true/real fans debate" again! We haven''t had one for a few weeks!

    Are real fans the same as realists?

     

  5. nutty nigel

    Anyone Miss Brown?

    [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    JC - So are you saying that he is no good and we shouldn''t give him a chance?

    CJF - check out the MOM thread on here. Only Huckerby and Shackell have more than Etuhu.

     

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    Its fortunate there is no Worst player on the pitch award, because Etuhu would have racked up a fair few of them this season.  And if there was a laziest player on the pitch award he would have racked up a fair few of them this season - as a central midfielder that is unacceptable.  Anyway as I have said the table doesn''t lie so some of our playeres patently arent up to the job, for much of this season Etuhu was one of them.

    But he is playing well at the moment so good on him, but if he is crap for half a season next year like he did this year and has done every other season in his career then we are going nowhere.  Unfortunatly I cannot see anything other than this happening next season, barring some excellent purchases.

    [/quote]

     

    http://new.pinkun.com/cs/forums/925893/ShowPost.aspx

    Check this out! More MOM''s than even Saf!

    The guy has played more games for us than anyone this season. He never cries off and has often played through painful injuries and against a background of abuse from some fickle fans.

    http://new.pinkun.com/cs/forums/926305/ShowPost.aspx

    Then check this out!

    This impresses me more than your continual rants and rubbish posted on other clubs messageboards.

     

  6. nutty nigel

    Free bet this weekend

    I am going to post two homes again as usual ray!

    QPR to beat Cardiff

    Sheffield Wednesday to beat Coventry

    Good luck everyone!

    Did you have a volunteer for this week Ray? If not it could be you! If nobody else wants a turn I will try again next week if you like!

     

  7. nutty nigel

    Anyone Miss Brown?

    You could be right Wiz.

    As I said in my post I have no idea if he will turn out to be a good signing or not. But, I honestly believe in giving people a chance and reserving judgement until such a time that I can make my own mind up.

    I certainly don''t pay much regard to what other clubs fans have to say. I heard plenty about what Preston fans supposedly had to say about Etuhu and I''m glad I waited to make my own mind up.

    If Granty picked me I''d give 100% too mate. He''d probably pick you in front of me though! [;)]

    Your personal feelings do you credit Wiz. There''s plenty on here who will give you stick for being so protective of our ''nice family club image''! You stick to your guns mate!!

     

  8. nutty nigel

    Reporting from Colney

    Great post City Angel!

    Both you and Jas are "made of the right stuff" [;)]

     

  9. Jas...

    You are THE man!

    Good speech mate.

     

  10. nutty nigel

    Anyone Miss Brown?

    JC - So are you saying that he is no good and we shouldn''t give him a chance?

    CJF - check out the MOM thread on here. Only Huckerby and Shackell have more than Etuhu.

     

  11. nutty nigel

    Team for sunday

    Total guesswork:-

    Warner - Colin Doherty Shackell Drury - Croft/Hughes Etuhu Spillane Lappin - Martin Huckerby/Earnshaw

     

  12. nutty nigel

    Anyone Miss Brown?

    All this is so wrong yet so typical of what happens on this board. Chris Brown hasn''t had a proper chance yet so we are all flying a kite to in predicting what the future holds for him at this club. Do we back the managers judgement in spending £325,000 of a limited transfer budget on this guy or do we write him off in the way some posters are doing here. Wiz - How can you possibly already say he will go down as Grants worst signing ever?

    I have no idea whether Brown will prove to be a good signing or not and I have seen just about every game he has played. What I have seen is a player who gives 100% and looks as though he wants to be here. I may be wrong but I believe supporters should welcome new players to the club and give them a fair chance. But if he lets the club down or doesn''t perform then criticism on here would be fair.

    I''m afraid it''s scapegoat time again. People are waking up to the fact that Etuhu is not the waste of space they said he was so turn their attentions to someone else.

     

  13. [quote user="Web Team - Celia Sutton"]

    Just a thought - it may be that the Press are respecting his privacy? It''s something the regionals try to do, if not the nationals....

    And no, I don''t have inside info - from my time as a journalist I would accept the need to take the spotlight off someone who had family worries.

    Celia

    [/quote]

    From what I have heard I think you are right Celia. And that''s exactly how it should be.

     

  14. nutty nigel

    Ostemboor - question.

    [quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]Balham Yellow - You are so neagative and I am going to set Nutty Nigel on you[:)][/quote]

    I''m being good today SOB! [:P]

    Anyway, it''s not negative posters I have a problem with, not even miserable old sob''s, only people who make up stuff to prove their point. [;)]

     

  15. [quote user="djcat"]

    although perhaps in the defence of Watford supporters, they also had an away game of some distance to travel at the weekend for the F.A. Cup seim-final. So perhaps issues of distance, costs etc may have been a factor.

    Comparisons to our final day of season "do or die" game at Fulham when we had so much to play for can''t really be made seeing as Watford as realistically down and out already.... whereas we ''only'' had to turn up and win.

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    Fair points about the comparisons with Fulham. So howabout a comparison with Burnley on Tuesday night after an away game at Leicester on Saturday?

    If this figure is correct then Watford fans don''t even deserve a conference team!

     

  16. nutty nigel

    Let's Not Fudge the Earnshaw Issue

    [quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"]

    No I can''t agree with any of this ''sell Earny for the good of the squad'' stuff.

    Earnshaw is the only legacy we have of the benefits drawn from winning promotion to the Premiership (Ashton bought with our cash and Earny came with Deano''s money when he became an EastEnder).

    If we sell Earnshaw and split up that cash to bring in a number of players then we truly must hold up our hands and say we really have reverted fully back to being a lower middle table second tier football club and forget all hopes of being a playoff challenger.

    The only thing which makes us better than that is that we own one of the best strikers in Britain outside the Premier League. 

    [/quote]

    I agree totally KP!

    Earnshaw and Huckerby are the match winners who, with the right players around them, can put us above the Colchesters of this league and give us a chance of challenging for promotion.

    The other point, which is not so important to some on here, is that these players get the fans off their seats and make going to games so much more enjoyable. The chances are, like it or not, we will be mid-table again next season and I would rather still have these two players here than four or five average ones.

     

  17. [quote user="mbncfc"]

    The only reason people champion Grant for playing youth at all is because people still feel so aggrieved by Worthington''s alleged ''non-use'' of our younger players.

    This, of course, despite Spillane getting a few games at the end of last season, with Ryan Jarvis, Ian Henderson, Jason Shackell and Robert Green to name a few others.

    Both managers have used our youth players in the past when they have seen fit, but what PG has is the ability to avoid loaning in players for the sake of it, an acceptance in loaning out players to get experience, and a better way of handling those young players at the club.

    Different horses for different course. Not everything is black and white. (cliche batch run over)

    [/quote]

    Absolutely spot on mbncfc.

    I am still reading posts today criticising Worthington for getting rid of Paul Hayes in 2002! Yet Hayes has still not proved himself at the level we are now let alone at the level we want to be. Of course Worthington played the youth players, sometimes out of choice but in most cases out of neccessity because of injury. Does anybody else remember Lewis on the bench at 15 at West Ham? If Robert Green had hurt his back in the warm up Lewis would have played too!!

    The criticism of the poor players brought in on loan in the last few seasons is a fair one. Especially at the end of last season where Worthington brought in Rehmann and Johanson. In his defence I guess we still had play off aspirations at the time they came in, but in my eyes they proved to be an awful waste of money.

     

  18. nutty nigel

    Anyone Miss Brown?

    [quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    Well he would have made a huge difference last night. There were some really good performances at Burnley and we certainly didn''t deserve a 3-0 scoreline but we had nobody there to hold the ball up and so we didn''t have enough ball in the final third. We still made chances though and I think we wouldn''t have been flattered if we had drawn the game.

    When I''ve Brown he wasn''t utter cr*p. What game are you talking about Smudger?

     

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    But surely we can find a player who can hold the ball up well AND pose at least a minimum threat to the opposition goal? It really isn''t either/or.

    You are right, he hasn''t played poorly - he has looked okay but are you content with this? I would rather play five across the middle and one dangerous striker upfront.

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    Players who can do both are like gold dust but he could be that player, will have to wait to find out I''m afraid. I heard all the same arguments when Iwan joined us and he cost a hell of a lot more than Brown. Iwan got there in the end so lets hope Brown does too.

     

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    I don''t think that just because of Iwan Roberts we have to believe that every big holding striker that comes will be good enough eventually (and has just been mentioned above Iwan was far more proven and talented) - otherwise why didn''t we keep Trevor Benjamin? I know that it is unfair to criticise Brown as he has only just arrived and I fell sorry for him regarding his injury ... I certainly will and am going to give him a chance my original posting was more to state my interest in the fact that nobody was lamenting his lengthy absence - and whether that indicated anything.

    My gut feeling is that he isn''t talented enough but I am not calling for his removal. I''m desperate to be proved wrong about him. 

    [/quote]

    No you are right about using the Iwan Roberts example. It was a poor choice by me because he was more proven. But I was trying to use it in respect to the negative views of the fans when he was first here.

    Why he hasn''t been missed is I guess because Chris Martin burst on the scene and immediately hit it off up front with Huckerby and they scored the goals that helped get us safe. It''s also fair to say that with Martin and Huckerby up front they had to try and keep the ball on the floor and play in the way most fans like to see. And alsoat times we have still had the option of using Dublin when we needed a more physical presence.

    But its good to have options and be able to mix it up especially away from home. I have seen enough of Brown to know he can give us different options when needed, I have been impressed with his contribution when he played, but I agree he has never looked like a goalscorer  yet. Grant paid good money for him so surely he must be part of his long term plans for the team.

    It really looks like Grant intends to make Brown, Etuhu and Fotheringham a big part of his plans for next season so I really hope the fans give them a proper chance too.

     

  19. nutty nigel

    Worthington doesnt like youth?

    [quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="foxile"]

    Thats what you guys told me on this forum, however last night he gave one of our England under 18 internationals a start against birmingham, for a 16year old he had an absolute blinder. Maybe when he was with you guys he didnt play the youth because they wernt good enough? i dont know. Obviously you are not aware but we have some very exciting prospects coming through at the moment, all internationals, all being chased by the top clubs - Magunda, Gradel, Odhiambo Chambers (made his Leicester debut at just 15, whilst he was still at school), Mattock, King, anyone that follows youth team football may know of some. http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=enCompAcademyLatestRes they are currently running away with the league scoring a very impressive 86 goals in 25 games. We play you on Saturday - 21st April.

    This maybe of course be the only reason why he is playing some of the young lads.

    Also Worthington really got us playing some great football last night, much improved from our previous performances. How Birmingham walked away with 3 points i dont know, but thats football. Our fans were truely awesome last night, constantly singing for the whole game and getting the better of the stewards by standing the whole second half [:D] i''m sure you would agree this is great when it happens, damm stewards. This was probably the effect Milan was hoping for, despite us suffering two defeats, however there is renewed optimism that we can avoid the dreaded drop.

    PS - sorry about the waffle [:)] just thought i would inform you on how he is doing, howevr i still dont want him here.

     

    [/quote]

    I read the match reports and fan reports. They were all complaining about hoofball.

    It also said they were absolutly horrible in the 1st half, not sure where you got the "playing great football from"

    [/quote]

    He probably went to the game. Going to games and judging for yourself is usually more reliable than making opinions from fans reports in my experience.

     

  20. nutty nigel

    PinkUn Forum Users Map

    [quote user="Kathy"]

    [quote user="AJ"]I''m sorry for those who have been having problems, but i really cannot see how hard it is!

    it took me about 30 seconds flat!
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    Well I''ve just had another go and despite telling it a hundred times Reepham is in Norfolk I now reside in Lincolnshire.[:(]

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    Nevermind! At least it won''t take you so long to get to Sheffield! [;)]

     

  21. nutty nigel

    Anyone Miss Brown?

    [quote user="Konstantin Pobedonostsev"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

    Well he would have made a huge difference last night. There were some really good performances at Burnley and we certainly didn''t deserve a 3-0 scoreline but we had nobody there to hold the ball up and so we didn''t have enough ball in the final third. We still made chances though and I think we wouldn''t have been flattered if we had drawn the game.

    When I''ve Brown he wasn''t utter cr*p. What game are you talking about Smudger?

     

    [/quote]

    But surely we can find a player who can hold the ball up well AND pose at least a minimum threat to the opposition goal? It really isn''t either/or.

    You are right, he hasn''t played poorly - he has looked okay but are you content with this? I would rather play five across the middle and one dangerous striker upfront.

    [/quote]

    Players who can do both are like gold dust but he could be that player, will have to wait to find out I''m afraid. I heard all the same arguments when Iwan joined us and he cost a hell of a lot more than Brown. Iwan got there in the end so lets hope Brown does too.

     

  22. nutty nigel

    Did the Burnley result matter?

    Grant was right about the officials up to a point and yes I do think he was trying to "look after" some of the younger players. However, we did play well for much of the game and it was only late in the game when we moved Dublin up front that they managed to make the game safe. We could have taken the lead when Dublin hit the bar early on. Then Dublin got caught out by Akinbiyi just as the youngsters were beginning to settle down and we went a goal down. Martin had a really good chance to level soon after and although Burnley had the lions share of posession we were not out of the game by any means. We made a few chances in the second half and Shackell in particular was unlucky before the keeper made a good save from Dublin. In my opinion, until those last 5 minutes,  we had as many chances and attempts on goal as they did. And those of you who prefer to use the match stats as a guide will see that they back up this point of view.

     

  23. nutty nigel

    Worthington doesnt like youth?

    When Worthy was failing here lots of stuff was made up to make him look worse than he was. Some people still believe that rubbish now. Worthy did well for us but when things went wrong for him the Board hung on to him for too long. I can understand why they did though. Make your own mind up about Worthington by what he does there. He certainly played the youth he had available to him here and those that proved good enough were given chances.

     

  24. [quote user="Cluck "]

    It''s plain embarrassing to listen to...and even more embarrassing to see so many people suck it in.  This is where the "new age" supporters come in so nicely, as they are so celebrity obsessed that they cannot see past the plastic smile. Happily they say the "age of the celebrity" is finally beginning to disappear...so let''s hope "our" celebrity disappears with it.

     

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    The only people I know, either in person or on this board, who are obsessed by Delia''s so called "celebrity status" are you and your mate Smudger!

     

  25. nutty nigel

    Worthy and transfers?

    [quote user="Lambo"][quote user="ricky knight"]

    [quote user="Lambo"]both Lappin and Marshall (fair enough he didn''t have many games before he got injured) have come in and done good jobs.... Grant also took a gamble on Chris Martin which isn''t something i could have seen Worthington doing and he''s been a huge success[/quote]

    did martin not come to city under Worthy''s regime, i am sure with the same circumstance Worthy would have been backed into a corner like Grant, blimey its like Grant has made a great discovery, he was in the system for crying out loud. Lappin done a steady job, but is that sort of signing promotion material, i dont think so.

    [/quote]

     

    Grant was willing to take a chance on him, something Worthy wouldn''t do with any youngsters last season even though we had nothing to play for, Grant gambled on a youngster when we were looking at a possible threat of relegation.

    [/quote]

    Then why did Worthy start Spillane in both Easter fixtures last season, not through neccessity but through choice. He was a year younger then too!

     

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