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  1. [quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"] I don''t support the Board I support the Club. The Board represent those who own a civic asset. If I chose to support those private owners by paying to watch what they have overall responsibility for creating I will do so when I consider they have met with my aspirations. Until they do I will continue to support Norwich City Football Club but not Norwich City PLC. [/quote] Exactly. How many people actually support the board? I don''t know anyone who does. I proudly support Norwich City Football Club and always have done. I supported them with the same passion throughout the time of all the boards, managers and players since 1967. Whenever I buy my tickets or merchandise I do so because I want to. I choose to spend my money following the club I support. I don''t consider that money is in support of who ever owns the club at the time. Boards, managers and players come and go but the only real loyalty in the game is a oneway street from the fan to their club. And thats the way it always has been. It''s a personal choice as to if when or how to withdraw that support.    
  2. [quote user="NEIL CLUCKCASTER"] [quote user="ricky knight"]jimmy500 why does every ex player have to be a legend, very good keeper but behind, Keelan and Woods imo, as for management material, come on even you can see that aint going to work, so what are you actually having a pop about, just because i said the man is not a legend or is there something i have missed.[/quote] Absolutely...and behind Kennon and Nethercott too.... Gunn was simply fodder to placate the restless fans....and just another cynical ploy to seek approval.  He was a decent enough keeper...but not a genuine legend by any stretch. [/quote] Absobluddylootly .... and don''t forget Ken Oxford too.... Nobody born after 1980 could possibly have seen a genuine legend play for Norwich. Gunn? 477 games for Norwich, 2 Barry Butler awards, outstanding in goal during our best ever league season and through our great Europeon matches, great ambassador for the club and city and ex sheriff of Norwich. Just an average player really [:|]  
  3. [quote user="Barry Brockes"]My first NCFC hero and I wouldn''t argue that we haven''t seen a better centre forward since. 50% of the crosses coming from the magical left foot of another hero, Billy Punton, went into the river but those that he put in the right area, having dazzled the full back from the reflection of the sun off his bald head, were invariably met by the towering figure of Ron Davies and ended up buried in the net. Sad to see the way things have turned out for him and I''ll certainly contribute. How we could do with him and Hughie Curran now.  [/quote] I just missed out on seeing Ron Davies play for City but I remember watching him play for Southampton and Wales. According to "Glorious Canaries" ''Destroyer Davies was the best header of the ball that Mike Channon (or practically anyone else for that matter) has ever seen and he had Sir Matt Busby describing him as the best centre forward in Europe.'' We signed him from Luton and at the time Geoffrey Watling was reported to have said "If you fail the medical we''ll sack the doctor" Ricky - Manning and Curran were a great pair for us and Curran was the next one sold for big money after Davies. If we could have kept both Davies and Curran together for longer who knows what may have been achieved. But as CID and others have pointed out  - it''s always been the same story.  
  4. [quote user="Snakepit boys"]Wiz you are talking a complete load of piffle! They will not appoint Duffy.  I very much doubt the one they do appoint will be much better though!! [/quote] Snakepit my friend.. it was only last week that you were bemoaning the fact that bet365 was closed and unable to take your house on Duffy getting the job. I think you are a rather fortunate young man that they wouldn''t take your money as you now believe it''s a load of piffle. We would still love to see you on the free bet fred which of course is never closed. [;)] (''cept now... cuz blah couldn''t wait.. bless him)  
  5. Greetings Pink Un Pickers..... Alright [Y] Moving down this week to League Two for :- Peterborough to beat Hereford The wife agrees so is it the housewives choice too? Not ''arf! [Y] That''s right... hold tight.. stay bright[H]  
  6. Greetings Pink Un Pickers..... Alright [Y] Moving down this week to League Two for :- Peterborough to beat Hereford The wife agrees so is it the housewives choice too? Not ''arf! [Y] That''s right... hold tight.. stay bright[H]  
  7. [quote user="NEIL CLUCKCASTER"] NN...trying to interact with you is like swimming in custard....and I don''t know why I bothered. It must be nice to live in a mental state where reality doesn''t overlap with fact...but it''s not for me I''m afraid. As for assuming that this little forum in any way corresponds to public opinion in the "real world"....you really should get out more. Life isn''t like your favourite soap Coronation Street you know....as the characters there are only pretending to be leary.....whereas on here actually are..... Turnip soup anyone?........ [/quote] Swimming in custard must have been a trifle difficult.. was it yellow and dangerous? Did you do it for charity... because if not I really don''t know why you bothered either. Mr Carrow says that about me too.. I like that Mr Carrow[8-|][*], he''s clued up about accounts and things that are beyond the understanding of leary folk.. when I watch Corrie I can imagine dear old Ken Barlow is Mr Carrow and in my mental state I see you as Blanch.... where was I??... oh yes... Mr. Carrow leads sick donkeys that are about to die of thirst to a crystal clear mountain pool, you should ask to tag along, none of them ever drink but the swimming is good and much better than custard. Plymouth away is 10th November, if you''re going again this year we could maybe meet for a [B] in The Brittania[Y]  
  8. [quote user="Lee Oliver"] Nutty Nigel-Hope the familys well old friend. [/quote] You should be a grandad by now if I remember rightly? I got four now! shhhhhhh... don''t tell arrdee [:#] [;)]  
  9. [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Yellow Rider"][quote user="yellowngreen"] No directors thank you I think they are doing a great job Manageable debt, sacked worthy when you them wanted to,employed PG (not to many groans then)and then sacked him when as was required. What else could you ask for ? possibly a sugar daddy but then most of the world wants one of them!  [/quote] Er - NO! Worthy was sacked at least 5 months after he should have been. [/quote] In these new days of protest it would seem he shouldn''t have been sacked at all.   [/quote] errr why?  Because the board hired an untried and  incompetant replacement and let him hire a triple failing loser as his assistant. [/quote] errr no! Because apparently he was forced to work under an incompetent board who have got nothing right since they sacked Mike Walker after two 5-0 wins. Bearing that in mind I think a play off final, and a championship and never finishing below 9th in this league is a great achievement. I thought his time was up and a change was needed but the catalogue of errors being aimed at the board these days really make you wonder!    
  10. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"]Nutty, what evidence is there that the Turners are not part of the problem? Did they not state at the AGM that they were "brought in to do a specific job" and rubbish speculation that they were preparing to take over? What, exactly, has changed? Or is it just a case of clutching at straws?[/quote] There''s no evidence that the Turners are not part of the problem. If I had any evidence that they were not part of the problem I wouldn''t have asked you on the other thread if they were part of the problem or part of the solution. I am not clutching at straws but maybe you are refusing to recognise change. What has changed is that there are new people on the board of directors who have invested 2m of their money and are being active in the decision making at the club. They don''t have to take over to instigate change, they only have to take part. I know no more than that. If you know more then tell me.  
  11. [quote user="Mr.Carrow"][quote user="ron obvious"] My dad thinks my mum is a really wise woman. However, I have come to realise that she is actually just very pessimistic, always predicting the worst possible outcome. When it doesn''t happen, everyone is too happy to notice, but, inevitably, she is occasionally right & gloomily (happily) goes around reminding everyone "I told you so..." Football is an extremely unpredictable game, that is part of its charm. Even nowadays, non-league clubs occasionally hold their own (or even better) against premiership clubs; who could have foreseen Reading''s success, or Colchester''s or Sunderland''s promotion last Christmas? My mum is right, though, it will all end in tears. Eventually. All things must pass [/quote] Long-term declines do not happen in football by chance or bad luck. To try to suggest otherwise is a complete cop-out and you know it. Some people could see the writing on the wall as our best players were sold to be replaced with cheapies and freebies and spoke out as the squad grew smaller and weaker as the club declared enormous profits. The fact is these people understand more about the way football works than those of you who are now bitter because you got it so wrong. [/quote] And the first one to speak out was a certain Nigel Worthington.  
  12. [quote user="ipswichrscum"] i think that its a bit of an unfair comment saying the forum members that '' bite your head off'' are all the new ones. When very often its the old ones that go mad on people. You cant judg someone on when they joined the forum, its pathetic ... as for ricardo''s comment about its all ''little kiddies'' thats even worse... dont have any of the younger generation supporting your team then, im sure they (or We if you are refering to 15 year olds) would be much more calm supporting man united like everybody else my age does. [/quote] Don''t worry about it Shax? [;)] Everyone''s moody and in a strop because how bad we are right now. New posters are an easy target. Not all youngsters support Man. United, I heard Scholesy is a Norwich fan! [;)] When I first posted on here a huge hairy canary told me I was everything that was wrong with this board, it happens to us all I guess. Maybe it''s some sort of quaint initiation ceremony [:^)] To all those who don''t like all these new posters - there is a bright side because I bet the increase in posters gets the board updated even more frequently [;)]  
  13. [quote user="smileyface"] No! The whole reason why a number of fans are criticising the Board and the majority shareholders that pull the strings, is over the way that the club is run and the strategy of it. In isolation the appointment of Peter Grant was a mistake, OK that happens. The decision to let Aidie Bothroyd go, or David Williams, the decision to appoint an inexperienced lawyer to Chief Executive, the decision to appoint an inexperienced accountant as Chief Operations Officer, the details of the hotel deal, the financing of the Jarrold stand, the refusal to issue enough new shares, the refusal to dilute their own controlling interest, the oversight of new Sky revenues when fixing Earnshaw''s release level, the failure to release funds for players at the right time, the banning of fans at Colney, the wasting of money on hairbrained schemes to raise money (like two people stood outside the shop selling flags), the constant monitoring of this board yet failure to listen, the increased wages for executives when we got promoted yet failure to reduce them we got relegated, etc etc These aren''t just one off mistakes it''s a catalogue of errors that would have led to dismissal or resignation in any normal business. [/quote] 13 months ago the only thing that was different from your list was the Colney ban and yet the only protest was to get rid of the manager. Are you now saying he was the wrong target?  
  14. [quote user="Yellow Rider"][quote user="yellowngreen"] No directors thank you I think they are doing a great job Manageable debt, sacked worthy when you them wanted to,employed PG (not to many groans then)and then sacked him when as was required. What else could you ask for ? possibly a sugar daddy but then most of the world wants one of them!  [/quote] Er - NO! Worthy was sacked at least 5 months after he should have been. [/quote] In these new days of protest it would seem he shouldn''t have been sacked at all.  
  15. [quote user="One Flew Over..."] I''m glad that Norwich''s economic development plan is reliant on 11 players kicking a ball around...How about some investment in some goals with nets in parks, or trying to keep the last remaining tennis courts open, or finding out why the only cultural product of recent note has been a fictional comedy character? MPs should concentrate on their own jobs. Strange that only the former MP backs the out of favour board, where as those that need votes jump on the bandwagon. If the club is so important why not put local taxes towards paying extortionate wages and transfer fees? Probably not too popular that idea, whereas a slagging off of the board at a time of crisis in the press is free publicity. I''d suggest NCFC start using its high profile players to point out the failings in local government the next time an election is due. [/quote] And it worked a treat with the predictable responses on here. How can people so easily recognise spin from the board and yet so easily fall for politicians spin? Could it be because they were saying what people wanted to hear? Anyway, it seems pretty clear from the article that the MP''s, like many posters on here, don''t recognise the ''new blood'' on the board or that they do and see them as part of the problem. I am certainly more wary of politician spin than even the best that Doncaster can come up with and I still haven''t forgotten our new hero Gibsons comments about us all being inbreds!  
  16. I don''t understand hedge funds and the like Bly, but your link got me thinking [^o)] Southampton and Coventry are still at risk for the dreaded administration. Maybe a couple of others are too. Could other clubs points deductions be our saviour this season? [:^)]  
  17. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] [quote user="C.T "]The tipping point should be when the wrong manager is appointed. We''re not going to appoint any body with quality, it''ll be cheap old Martin Allen, or Phil Parkinson. It should Bruce, or Jewell, but Delia doesnt have the ambition....[/quote] CT. That would present many fans with an interesting conundrum. Do we resent the board for going cheap again and rebel or do we ''do the right thing'' and give the new man a decent chance! [6] OTBC   [/quote] The marks on the bench seem to point to the fact we always "go cheap". So the interesting conundrum could be - if we follow the Turners advice and don''t "penny pinch" do we resent the board for not following in the footsteps of succesfull boards from the past or do we ''do the right thing'' and give the new man a decent chance. Interesting times!  
  18. [quote user="Shyster"]Bung all you''ve got on Phil Parkinson. [:@][/quote] I think in the end Newell turned out to be the manager for bungs [:|]  
  19. [quote user="NEIL CLUCKCASTER"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="FramCanary"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="FramCanary"][quote user="Bigmarkcanary"] [quote user="Matt"]Officially the worst post this month.[/quote] Officially the worst post this season you mean [um] [/quote] Officially the worst period in the modern history of the football club! (Could apathetic morons such as these lift their heads out of the sand & wake up to reality).   [/quote] Have you ever posted on a thread withou calling other city fans morons. It really does suggest you are thick as... ok mods, I won''t finish the post [:|]   [/quote] There is no hiding from it - there are far too many of them. They are not bothered about whether we win/lose/draw, which division we are in, how badly the club is run from a financial point of view etc etc.. I have never before witnessed such a willingness to accept constant under-performance of a football club - both on & off the field of play - by it''s (so called) supporters. It is indicative of the kind of person attending live football in the modern era of the game. The apathy of our ''fan'' base is one of the many causes of our continual demise - but you will (no doubt) decline to accept/recognise this.   [/quote] No Fram, I don''t recognise its the fans fault. I don''t see fans who are happy to see us lose or see poor performances. What I have seen on here are fans who want us to lose in order to get a manager sacked or stop a manager being appointed or even to put the board of directors under more pressure. What I do know is no fan I have ever been to games with has ever wanted us to lose or been happy to see us lose.   [/quote] That''s the black and white opinion NN....whereby the club and the board are one and the same. A glance into the more grey area will show you that many of us believe in short term pain for long term gain....where the club will survive and prosper in the long term..minus those who have caused it to descend into turmoil. The club and those who run it are very different things...but somehow you can''t grasp that can you? Likewise the abysmal team on the pitch is not fit to wear the shirt. I''ll wager then that before any moderate success ever returns to this club....every one of them will be gone. In my book this current team is Delia''s team....and it needs to go walkies along with her..... [/quote] Many of who?? In this crazy unimportant virtual messageboard world maybe. But in the real world fans want the team to win, always. I can''t believe people still take you seriously[:O] Next time you change your name you should maybe become "Virtual Vera" [:P]  
  20. The things people will do to avoid typing the word arse! [;)]  
  21. [quote user="FramCanary"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="FramCanary"][quote user="Bigmarkcanary"] [quote user="Matt"]Officially the worst post this month.[/quote] Officially the worst post this season you mean [um] [/quote] Officially the worst period in the modern history of the football club! (Could apathetic morons such as these lift their heads out of the sand & wake up to reality).   [/quote] Have you ever posted on a thread withou calling other city fans morons. It really does suggest you are thick as... ok mods, I won''t finish the post [:|]   [/quote] There is no hiding from it - there are far too many of them. They are not bothered about whether we win/lose/draw, which division we are in, how badly the club is run from a financial point of view etc etc.. I have never before witnessed such a willingness to accept constant under-performance of a football club - both on & off the field of play - by it''s (so called) supporters. It is indicative of the kind of person attending live football in the modern era of the game. The apathy of our ''fan'' base is one of the many causes of our continual demise - but you will (no doubt) decline to accept/recognise this.   [/quote] No Fram, I don''t recognise its the fans fault. I don''t see fans who are happy to see us lose or see poor performances. What I have seen on here are fans who want us to lose in order to get a manager sacked or stop a manager being appointed or even to put the board of directors under more pressure. What I do know is no fan I have ever been to games with has ever wanted us to lose or been happy to see us lose.  
  22. Mr Carrow, add to your player quotes these from Worthy :- “We have to be proactive rather than reactive. We signed Dean Ashton in January instead of pre-season and I think the lesson should have been learned from that." "Hulse, who has moved from Leeds to Sheffield United for £2.1m, was Plan A - Howard, who has left Leeds for Derby for £1m, was Plan B. There is not a lot of plan C, D, E, F, G, H from the point of view of the quality that we need to come into this football club and take us forward. I can go and sign five six-foot three strikers tomorrow for £100,000 apiece - they won''t do the job that we want because they are not good enough, simple as that, and if you want to move forward then you need good players within the club." It''s easy for me to find these quotes because I was posting them on the messageboard last year but I didn''t get a lot of support at that time because all the so called passionate fans were busy on a campaign to remove the manager. I guess Chris Brown was one of those 6''3" strikers Worthy was talking about. Maybe you should add the reported 600,000 payoff to Worthington to the list off money wasted that could have been spent on the team. As you can see I have been posting that the board have got it wrong for as long as you have. I''m hoping that the Turners involvement in the running of the club will result in the changes you want to see. Being passionate is not a quality exclusive to protesters or boycotters though. Believe it or not there are still passionate fans going to games too.    
  23. Gazza - I think 2m is a lot of money. We all get carried away with the big money in football these days. Delia and MWJ only invested 1m in 1996 when they were first invited onto the board. You have to believe that succesful business people would do a lot of research before risking 2m. Anyway, they are there now and the board is different from before. I asked the question if they were now part of the problem or part of the solution because I don''t know myself. I totally agree with you that they will become part of the problem if they hide sit behind (not sure about continue to?) the policies of the past. The very fact that they are being active in monitoring the running of the club and the performance of the CE suggests to me that change could be in the air but unfortunately, as with most things in life that we don''t have any control over, we have to wait and see. It''s been a while since the club has had that togetherness, hasn''t it? I remember posting about it last year and getting loads of stick on here. Of course we can''t turn the clock back to find out if Worthy would have been suceesfull if he had been properly backed by the board anymore than we can turn the clock back to change the board or their decisions. I agree that the players really aren''t as bad as they are showing right now but the team is. Lets hope the next manager can make a better team out of the players. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but the point I was trying to make was as fans on a messageboard we can move on to whatever the current situation is. Another one I have noticed just lately is how another centreback is never mentioned anymore and everyone posts like they have been asking for midfielders all this time. I bet I do it too and I have changed my mind through listening to other posters in the past. But thats what fans can do where as the people who make the decisions for real only get one go each time. You are right about the academy being for another post. But I would just say that I can''t believe we ruined youngsters by not giving them enough chances. If they were good enough they would be playing just like if we had been wrong to let them go they would be coming back to haunt us from a higher level.  
  24. [quote user="FramCanary"][quote user="Bigmarkcanary"] [quote user="Matt"]Officially the worst post this month.[/quote] Officially the worst post this season you mean [um] [/quote] Officially the worst period in the modern history of the football club! (Could apathetic morons such as these lift their heads out of the sand & wake up to reality).   [/quote] Have you ever posted on a thread withou calling other city fans morons. It really does suggest you are thick as... ok mods, I won''t finish the post [:|]  
  25. [quote user="Arthur Whittle"] Ive actually known Lee for some time through my son and like most of u he supported the board at first. It was during our Prem season that it became apparent to alot of people that the board didnt take Football as serious as it should of done with the ''Prudence with ambition'' thinking. This was proven to be the wrong course of action and yet they still belt out the silly quote. I remember Lee throwing his ticket away in disgust after the Fulham game and was literally in tears about the lost opprtunity of more prem football. I remember also Lee not renewing his season ticket for the next season and actively demanded a change in outlook by the board with regards to spending money on the pitch and not off it. Many people saw this coming a couple of seasons back and with the way football has gone they new it was the wrong path to take. I believe Lee was one of the first to not renew and boycott the current board and got alot of stick for doing so...Hardly sitting on his hands NN. Regards [/quote] Well Arthur, I''m sure Lee has no problem answering my post himself and doesn''t need your input. Lee and I had discussions last season and managed to get along together quite well despite not always being in agreement. I don''t think I have ever given lee a lot of stick about anything. Anyway, it''s nice to take this opportunity to have a chat with you. You shouldn''t assume that just because I don''t and never would support any boycott it means I support the boards policies. I have never seen any boycott at Carrow Road over the last few seasons, just threats and claims of one on this messageboard. If people did protest by not renewing after Fulham then unfortunately other people took up those tickets rendering that protest useless. First Wizards idea of buying tickets for the derby and then not turning up to ensure empty seats is possibly the best one yet. We shall see if it gets off the ground.  
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