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  1. Vos, I never doubt that Robert Chase was a City fan. I have posted on here time and time again that I believe we have been lucky in that throughout my time as a fan the clubs owners have all been fans too. I maybe nutty and I don''t mind people saying it but I do have a good memory where as yours is, to be kind, selective. I can remember us winning in Munich in 1993 and I remember us winning at Old Trafford in 1967. The only point I have continually made on this thread is that when this board took over in 1998 we were already at the level we are today. They then turned it around for a few years getting us back to the Premiership before, and as Mello said 1998 to 2008 ia a big loop back to where we were. The demise this board is responsible for is that from 2005 to today. The demise in the mid nineties was down to Robert Chase and the mess that was left for the likes of Watling, Lockwood and Bennett to sort out.  
  2. Jamie Cureton 14 goals in 42 games so that''s 1 in every 3 games. Ched Evans 8 in 25 or 1 in every 3.13 Darren Huckerby 47 in 200 or 1 in every 4.25 Dion Dublin 16 in 76 or 1 in every 4.75 Chris Martin 5 in 30 or 1 in ever 6 Ryan Jarvis 5 in 36 or 1 in every 7.2 Lee Croft 4 in 86 or 1 in every 21.5 So I would suggest that although it seems Cureton is the most likely to miss he is also the most likely to score. Of course Earnshaw had 27 in 47 or 1 in every 1.74 games.    
  3. [quote user="Mister Chops"] Well, blaming anyone or anything will achieve nothing, Nigel, be it the board, supporters, quality of pies... if we''re down, we''re down.  I don''t recall suggesting we should behave like the binmen.  I am merely pointing out the observation that if we go down, I don''t think a lot of people will be bothered.  Sleepwalking merrily into League One with season tickets renewed, arms folded and mouths closed.  Delia''s Zombie Army!  Let''s be having you! [/quote] I didn''t suggest you did say we should behave like binmen my friend, I was referring to another post on this thread that said : We may take the p!ss out of Ipswich town''s low season ticket base but at least the fans there let the club know how they feel and make them work for their support as opposed to complacent Norwich with apathetic fans just getting their money''s worth by turning up. But out of interest mister.. how did you show your backbone yesterday? Were you a karate chop or a bit of a lamb chop? [;)] How about the rest of the righteous on this thread? How did you show you cared more than others Rudolph? How did Mr Chimps IQ stand out in the crowd? How did you show your passion that the rest of us can only dream of Ricky? Did you type your messages in a more angry manner? Did you cheer or boo yesterday fellas? We played ok didn''t we? Is the atmosphere better at away games? Not always in my opinion, but I guess it''s relative to what game it is. There wasn''t much atmosphere at Wolves, Plymouth or Bury! City fans are the best in the world, be proud.  
  4. Unbelievable! So now it''s time to turn on the fans and hold up those Ipswich supporters as an example we should follow. Sometimes I can''t believe some of the rants that happen on this message board. How come the mascots get away with it[:^)] [&] Surely Captain Canary and Splat The Cat have a case to answer. If we go down this season blaming the fans will achieve nothing.  
  5. [quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="Fellas"] Do you want us to be relegated? [/quote] Of course not...................but if it got rid of Roeder and Smith......................[:|] [/quote] Do you want Roeder out too now Wiz [:^)]  
  6. [quote user="Mello Yello"] [quote user="chelmsfordyellow"]commenst please[/quote] Let''s put it to the test......acle shall we - and have a scrote/vote on the subject..... I actually don''t think Mr Balls and Mr Doncaster are the best of chums.......  [/quote] That''s for sure Mello [:P]  
  7. [quote user="Jim Duffy"] You said "the decline to THIS level". Well, fighting relegation to the third tier of English football is THIS level, in case you hadnt noticed. Chase is not responsible for that. The current board is. Very simple. [/quote] I said decline to this level because I meant decline to this level. The current owners brought this club at the end of the season where we were staring relegation in the face just as we are now. Sorry to repeat myself but you seem to have a hearing problem - toward the end of the 97/98 season we had just 46 points going into our last 4 games having not won in the previous 14 before being saved with those two 5-0 home wins. They then turned things around and finally got us back to the Premiership. We started the final game of that Premiership season outside the bottom 3 with our fate in our own hands. This was above fans expectations. However the defeat in the Fulham game and our subsequent fall back to where we are now was below our expectations and there is no hiding place for the current board regarding the decline from 2005 onwards. Robert Chase was responsible for our decline in the 90''s, it''s well documented and I''ll explain it further if you want. This board is responsible for recovering from that but also our decline since 2005. It''s as simple as that and if you rubbish my post again maybe you would be good enough to back it up with more than hot air.  
  8. People always have their favourites Ricardo and we all see different things in players. I find it hard to comprehend how Cureton has missed so many this season after scoring so many last year. But he''s still the best goalscorer at the club and to be fair he has scored 14 in 42 since he came here. One in three is much the same rate as Ched Evans 8 in 25. However, Earnshaws 27 in 47 while he was here does put them both in the shade.  I don''t blame anybody for today. I thought we played really well against a good side brimming with confidence. If we get relegated it won''t be because we lost 2-1  to WBA.  
  9. Unlucky Graham, good effort mate [Y] You will be back to fight another day on the free bet just like Norwich have another day next Saturday.  
  10. [quote user="Jim Duffy"][quote user="nutty nigel"] Chase was responsible for the decline to this level.   [/quote] Absolute rubbish. The current incumbents have been at the helm for around 12 years. 12 YEARS. [/quote] Wrong. And absolute rubbish and you obviously don''t know it. The club changed ownership in 1996 and again in 1998 which was the whole point of my post. This board then arrested the decline and lifted the club back up to a play off final followed by automatic promotion back to the Premiership. The decline from 2005 to now can be completely blamed on the board. They have to be held responsible because they have been responsible. But the decline in the mid nineties cannot be. Rewriting history and blaming this board for things that happened before their time does nothing to help us in the present. Next time try reading my post before you rubbish it.  
  11. [quote user="kdncfc"][quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="kdncfc"] There is very little to choose between Chase and the current lot imo, both guilty of selling off the better players and replacing them with cheap rubbish, only difference is we are a division lower than we were in the Chase days. Don''t go for all this at least we''ve still got a club stuff either, the fact is that if we carry on how we have done for much longer we''ll end up in league 2, we won''t have a club left to support if that happens. [/quote] No, we were relegated under Chase so technically we are in the same division. [/quote]We were relegated under Chase to this division but we''re now in serious danger of dropping to an even lower division, in fact our lowest position for over 40 years. Who''s to say it won''t get even worse if we carry on in the same vein. We did have some bad times under Chase but we were competing at a higher level then and as well as finishing third in the league we reached 2 FA cup semis and won the milk cup and also qualified for europe on another occasion but were unable to participate due to the scousers misdemeanours at Heysel. We had debts of 6 million when he left,12 years on  we are nearly 20 million in debt and with a playing squad as weak as anything I''ve known since I started going to games in 1972. [/quote] We shouldn''t rewrite history just to make this board look worse than they are. Chase was responsible for the decline to this level. When he left in 1996 we were already struggling in this division and the club was in turmoil when the late great Geoffrey Watling brought his shares. At that point people like Gordon Bennett and Martin Armstrong helped steady a sinking ship and invited Delia Smith and Michael Wyn Jones onto the board. It was 2 years after that when Watling chose to sell his shares to Smith and Jones and if you remember that was the season where the club was at it''s lowest position for nearly 40 years. That was the season where we had just 46 points going into our last 4 games having not won in the previous 14 before being saved with those two 5-0 home wins. So although we have slipped back after they dragged us back toward our former glorys there''s no way we can blame the decline from those European days on the present board.  
  12. Yes they do look very good don''t they Arrdee. Good luck Graham[Y] Now we will see how valuable Billy Dixon is to the free bet as I am certain he will comfortably beat the odds available at Boyle Sports. Billy is a City Fan for sure. And of course there lies the problem those poor binners seem unable to overcome. It must be difficult to find a local business man willing to help them in the way Dixmar do us. Why would they having watched other local businesses being paid out at five pence in the pound. Rickyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [:''(]  Here''s a little evidence to where cheats don''t prosper. Cheating scum are just cheating scum sand pails included!  
  13. [quote user="kdncfc"] There is very little to choose between Chase and the current lot imo, both guilty of selling off the better players and replacing them with cheap rubbish, only difference is we are a division lower than we were in the Chase days. Don''t go for all this at least we''ve still got a club stuff either, the fact is that if we carry on how we have done for much longer we''ll end up in league 2, we won''t have a club left to support if that happens. [/quote] Chase left was responsible for the decline too, he didn''t leave us when we were a division higher did he?  
  14. [quote user="nutty nigel"] My gut feeling is that they will uphold the punishment which could be bad news for Bournemouth and Luton. We should find out soon.   [/quote] Seems we won''t find out soon. It wouldn''t surprise me now if they wait and come to a decision that won''t affect any of the teams around them. But the decision they make could well affect other clubs next season. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/7354091.stm  
  15. [quote user="Mook"][quote user="Yellow Rider"] [quote user="vicar in green and yellow"]Worthy also got us out of the do do with a couple of 5 goal hammerings towards the end of the season[/quote] Er - that was Mike Walker I think you''ll find (as already pointed out). His reward for which was the sack.  [/quote] The reason he needed to "get out of jail" with a couple of 5-0s (or was one a 5-1) was because he''d got us in the s**t in the first place! Hence the sack. [/quote] No Mook.. as I remember it we only played 2 games all season.. can''t remember anything else... sure it was only 2... did we play ipswich away that season... I seem to remem....... no no ... it''s gone.. only those two games have withstood the test of time [;)]  
  16. [quote user="1st Wizard"] We must get a least a point from the WBA game and pray a few other teams lose!. [/quote] What about if we get nothing from the WBA game and then beat QPR?  
  17. I remember them all Ricardo. That Stringer goal against Palace was one of the most celebrated goals I can remember at Carrow Road but it wasn''t the final game. We lost the final game at Stoke but we were already safe through that goal and WBA losing their game in hand the midweek before the final game. 1981 was certainly one where we lost our final game at home to Leicester after winning nearly all our other April games. Fulham we started outside the bottom three with it in our own hands and blew it. In 1985 we finished our games with a win leaving us 18th on 49 points only to be relegated half way through the summer. I remember in 1992 we lost 7 and drew 1 of our last 8 (we lost 9 including the cup semi) and yet stayed up with 45 points and then in 1995 we again lost 7 and drew 1 of our last 8 and got relegated. In 1998 we looked done for at the beginning of April having gone 14 games without a win but then we got safe with those 5-0 wins. Surely last season we were never in a relegation fight  because we only managed 1 point from our last 4 games and still finished 16th on 57 points.  
  18. [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Ask nutty nigel. He''ll help you with faultless factual detail from the last 40+ years accompanied by timelines as accurate as an atomic clock. He might falter on analysis and logic, but he''s your man for facts and timelines on grave matters such as this. C''mon nutty, this is just up your street, let''s be having you! Help out the beard. OTBC     [/quote] Nah Just make something up Major and make it look like you know what you''re talking about, I''m sure you''ll get away with it. Rick Dastardly will come and back you up if you''re in trouble... Rickyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [:''(] Are the papers in yet Fawlty [O][C]  
  19. [quote user="ricardo"] That''s a nice thought Nutty but it smacks more of wishful thinking than reality. No offence meant in the cousin Delia remark. If she was my auntie I''d be round for tea every day. I await your thoughts on the Leeds fight to regain their lost points, if you have any. [/quote] I don''t think I could ever take offence by anything posted on here Ricardo. It''s a bit more than wishful thinking. I believe the Football League is much more honest than the Premiership. I believe that Brian Mawhinney is a good honest man. This is what he had to say about Leeds last appeal back in August after a meeting of the second, third and fourth division clubs had voted overwhelmingly in favour of the sanction. "Overwhelmingly means...the vote was over 75 percent in support of the board, which means that Leeds United are starting the new season in League One as a valued member of the league''s football family, but with a penalty of 15 points," he said. "The matter is now over, done and concluded." So now they go to an independent appeal and I don''t know much about those hearing it except that Sir Philip Otton was the guy who Sheffield United got little joy from over the Tevez affair and Peter Leaver is the guy who fell foul of Chelseas illegal approaches when he made loud noises about only fit and proper persons being involved in football administration. The other guy, Peter Cadman, I know nothing about at all. My gut feeling is that they will uphold the punishment which could be bad news for Bournemouth and Luton. We should find out soon. CJF, bless him, seems to think it''s easier to be honest than to be cheating scum. I believe it''s the other way around and I also believe that the rewards are worth more if gained honestly.  
  20. [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="Duffman"]Well we dont rate him enough to sign him but Rangers think that he is good enough for them. Similar to Rangers thinking Ian Murray wasnt good enough and Norwich thinking that he was.   We all know the rest............... [/quote] So is he going to join the long list of players that we mistakenly let go? Who were they again?? [/quote] In fact Robert Green apart, who from the  youth players has proven themselves decent?  Shax perhaps?  Any other names?? [/quote] This was my point when you clamoured for Worthy to play them all [:|]  
  21. [quote user="ricardo"] I don''t dispute that at all Nutty. What I am saying is that it will do us no good footballwise to harp on about what a principalled club we are. The teams you mentioned in an earlier post are indeed cheating scum but I''m afraid nobody is listening. Do you really believe cheats never prosper? Surely you are old enough now to realise we live in an unreasoning cosmos and things don''t come right just because you believe in fairness. Ipswich, Leicester and the like have got a few quid now and the fact that they are cheating scum matters not one iota to their future prospects. I wonder what your thoughts are on the Leeds saga. They appear to be favourites to get some points back from their 15 point deduction. If it happens then what bigger example of cheats prospering do you need? Back on the Windass point. I''m not agitating for him to come here now but I still feel missing out on him all those years ago was a turning point in our fortunes. We blew it just when the big money was coming into the game. The guy has had a great and lengthy career at mid to top level in would have made a big difference to us just at the time we needed it. If Big Bob had made a different decision on Windass he might still have been in charge today and you would be visiting you cousin Delia without having to wear your yellow and green bobble hat.     [/quote] If wishes were horses beggars would ride Ricardo. Who knows if signing Windass would have changed the world back then. Players work out at some clubs and not at others. It''s so easy to blame Chase to suit an agenda. I rather suspect his hands were tied anyway. I also think that O''Neill sort of knew there was no money after Robert Fleck returned. Football wise, message board wise, real life wise honesty is the best policy. Cheats never really prosper. I think you are a badboy wannabe, using the internet forums to fantasise about being Ric Dastardly and join your trusty sidekick Mutbly in the cousin Delia jibes.  
  22. [quote user="1st Wizard"] Er? we don''t have any money to buy anyone of reasonable quality, let alone anyone good. Surely January and the last 3 years have taught you dreamers that!.[:|] [/quote] It''s a bit early for this Wiz. You still got some mileage in the ''we will be relegated posts''. Surely the ''we are skint'' and ''our club is broke'' posts don''t usually come out until the May blossom is in bloom. It''s right what they say - the seasons are all turning into one.  
  23. [quote user="Duffman"]Well we dont rate him enough to sign him but Rangers think that he is good enough for them. Similar to Rangers thinking Ian Murray wasnt good enough and Norwich thinking that he was.   We all know the rest............... [/quote] So is he going to join the long list of players that we mistakenly let go? Who were they again??  
  24. [quote user="BBFF"] "Talk is cheap" Just listen to Munby & Doncaster FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST [/quote] Agreed talk is cheap BBFF. We heard all this from our club in 1995 and again in 2005. As for the money, we heard all that this season about Charlton Sheffield United and Watford. It''s best to keep quiet because after 46 games in the Championship those words and the squandered millions can come back and bite you in the a*se.  
  25. [quote user="YankeeCanary"] Celtic to beat Aberdeen. We''ve had a lot of choice this year but are rapidly working our way towards a Light Programme. Having just taken the steam out of Rangers who are like King Kong this season, for Celtic, tackling Aberdeen will merely be like Life With The Lyons. In fact, the match is likely to be over before Hancock''s Half Hour. Graham, I''m sorry I can''t be on that side of the water to feel fully engaged in your success this weekend, but I promise to Listen With Mother. [/quote] Yankee beat me to those.. I''m not playin'' anymore [:''(]  
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