Hardhouse44

I couldn''t agree more. Cureton is a very poor mans Earnshaw. Russel is not as good as safri. Dave the striker ain''t going to score hatfulls and Brelier for me looks like a very had working but very untalented player. (the total reverse of Etuhu - but neither combination works) Then you look at what we still have. Drury                        Poor Doherty                     Awful Shackel                     Poor Croft                         Very average Lappin                       Average Fotheringham             A Joke Chadwick                 We''ll see Dublin                      Not a 40 game a season option Jarvis See                Fotheringham That leaves Martin who is very young and raw and a few others who are ok at best. Huckerby and Marshal are our only players capable of competing at the top level of this league consistently? Call me what you want compare me with Smudger and Cluck. But I am only saying what I see and how I see it. If you don’t score many and let lots in then you don’t win many games. What’s changed. We replaced a top striker with an ok aging one (yes last years top scorer I know but I reckon he was in a much better team) and we haven’t changed a thing at the back. Yes we got the guy who got shot on the ar$e but is he really going the be the answer to our defensive frailty. Doubt it. We are going to struggle and I fear it may be as bad if not worse than last season.  

Why didn''t we see the best of him. He made 60 appearances for us of which only 4 were as sub. Was he not trying. Was he unfit. I don''t buy this he wasn''t happy crap and someone on here says he was the fastest player at the club so I guess fitness wasn''t a problem. We are getting rid of another lightweight player. We will receive exactly £0 for him and he will make about the same number of first team appearances for Ajax. As for understanding tactics. I can''t recall him getting past his winger very often in fact if he got past the half way line we had to stuff cotton wool up his snowt. Can''t pass ten yard can''t cross and can''t get his positioning right for toffee''s. Still he had a good game away to QPR you say.

[quote user="chicken"] I don''t think that is true. Brain McGovern at right back? McGovern was a centreback. The players ability especially technicaly were above that of many players at Norwich, I shall be sad to see him go but a players best performances can only come when he is happy. If Colin was never happy here then obviously we never saw his best form.   [/quote]Poor little Colin wasn''t a happy bunny. Bucket please. I''m a lot happier now he won''t be out of position when ever the opposition attack. I''d be even happier if I was on the money that little sad sack jurgen is on.  

Joe Royle

Get me a bucket. Poor old Barbara Dickson got a rough time from the fans when he arrived. That could have had something to do with the fact that he was on £5000 a week and played like a nancy. We will see how good old Babs is when the premiership starts again. And how the Sunderland fans respond to his lazy ways.

"KEEP OF THE GRASS"

"NO BALL GAMES"  

NURSE!!!!!!!!!

[quote user="canarychris"]YES, a powerful box to box midfielder who can tackle, score goals and win aerial battle[/quote] Yes I was at that game too. I was also at 30 odd other games where he did sod all except ponce around looking like he''d rather be somewhere else. I for one don''t think that he would be a great loss

The fate of our season lies in the next few signing Grant HAS to make. We have again been shown in embarrassing detail that our central defence and midfield is way below standard. Doherty and Shackell are not good enough, Dublin is not a 40 game plus answer and Safri and Etuhu are not good enough as they proved last season. They are both on their way by all accounts and for the money that’s being touted I''d drive them both there in a flash. Yes, yes they can do it on occasions but all to rarely to make an impact on a season of football. Safri is either away, tired, hungry or injured and Etuhu is lazy or disinterested more than often. Brellier may well offer some backbone although unlike some who have already started to hero worship him and others before they have even kick a ball for us or at this level in anger I will wait and see before I judge. We need a ball player. If anybody offers Fotheringham as the answer I will assume you are Pi$$ed or on medication. We need more players to make this team anything other than also-rans again.

Hucks position depends for me very much on how we are playing as a team. In an idea world if we have 2 proper goal scoring forwards in the team I’d have to say he should play wide left running at his fullback as much as possible. However, although I am encouraged by the amount of players we have signed at least. I am yet to seen them play. If they all play well in their best positions then I go with the above Huck wide left, if they are not the business (still to be confirmed) then we have to allow Huckerby a more free roll. I would go as far as to say that if things are not any better than last season we have to allow him a total free roll in an attacking way. Free dome to pull wide to run central and to even switch if he feels is might be successful. He has been our most potent player since his arrival as far as creating chances and he must be utilised to his full potential. Lets hope that everybody does the business this season and Hucks is putting the ball on Dave the strikers head with crosses from the left flank game in game out.

No pace. No strength and I''m still waiting fir him to make this killer pass or great cross he''s supposed to be capable. Sorry he''s fodder to make the numbers up as far as I can see. Not a player capable of performing at Championship level.

£500! To have my picture taken with the squad. Can I pick and choose who is in the picture. Cos I don''t want any donkeys in it. Shall I go round to Huckerby''s house or will he come to me.!!!

I hope not. Our best player is still Huckerby. As soon as we start the hoofball crap you take him out of the game completely. The hoofball style of football that some clubs play very effectively also requires good powerhouse midfielders to get on the end of targetman knock downs and we ain''t got a single one of them at the club. "Barbara" Dickson Etuhu wont run box to box for you all match powering in on the end of them that’s for sure.

[quote user="lobster catcher"]Spending big is fine if you get the right players,but most good players coming to norwich would have a buy out clause in their contracts like earnshaw so what is the real point.Norwich aren''t glamorous enough for most players so no amout of money will get them here ie sharp and eastwood[/quote] The club it''s self does everything to make it'' self non glamorous. We told constantly we''re little old Norwich. However players come for money and fame all of which is waiting for them in the premiership. Players like Eastwood and Sharp want to get there. Thats all they consider when they join their prospective new clubs. The didn''t feel that they would achieve it a Norwich City. That has nothing to do with whether were are popular well supported or glamorous it''s to do with the fact the they felt we lacked the players and ambition to do it. It doesn''t take a fool to see that even with a top class player like Earnshaw we couldn''t get with a mile of the player offs let alone promotion last term. And Sharp and Eastwood would realise that if they replace him and we don''t add any other quality were not going anywhere again. We obviously couldn''t show them enough ambition outside their own transfer.

[quote user="FilletTheFishWife ."] You don''t have to go to extremes but there''s a helluva gulf between the excesses of Leeds Utd and the frugality at Norwich and the board need to compromise and pay competitive transfers fees and wages if they seriously want to compete for promotion. The club made a lot money from the promotion, the premiership season, 2 years of parachute payments, and the sales of ashton, mckenzie, green and earnie plus several years of sold-out season tickets. And each time we''re fobbed off with "adjusted " receipts and expenditure and we scrap around for bargains and hope they come good. The board have to invest for success and that doesn''t necessarily have to compromise the club.   [/quote] Spot on. Nail on head. Exactly.  

[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="Hardhouse44"] I for one don''t agree. You can buy yourself out of this league. Ambitions attracts players. Players who want to play in the top league in the world. The purchase of some quality player which have to be paid for will encourage the other better free to sign players to join as well. Eastwood and Sharp wouldn''t sign for us because we couldn''t convince them that we are promotion contenders. That is also why we lost Earnshaw. We couldn''t get promotion last term and we couldn''t convince him that it would be any better this season. The standard of football in this league means you need to spend £8 10mil to give yourself a very good chance of promotion. That would be enough to get in top championship players on a fee whilst enticing the freebies that your on the up. This is not a massive gamble and if spent wisely the players will be worth that and more regardless of whether you get promoted or not. Safri is about to go for £1.5 mil you telling me if we had signed Sharp and Eastwood for £5-6mil and we failed to get up we wouldn''t get the money back. If we have the money now which to some extent we do then now would be the time to do it. The biggest problem is we don''t have the managerial or board level clout do pull all the strings at the right time to make it happen. But that''s a different issue altogether. . [/quote] your missing the point i don''t dispute the fact that we could spend all this money and it might get us promoted but what if it doesn''t and we''re left with a huge gap in our finances the premiership money was supposed to fill? i''ll tell you what happens all the expensive players you signed will have to be returned and we''ll at best be back to square one and at worst in the sort of situation leeds find themselve''s in. [/quote] Your missing my point. Good players are worth money if you go up or not. Earnshaw didn''t go up but he was still worth good money. I question whether we have the directors and management capable of spending it wisely enough. Leeds is everybody''s example. But leeds spent badly. Whilst in the Premiership. We are talking about getting out of this league. By the time Leeds were a Championship team they were already doomed. Bad investments will always be bad investments. Thats the key, get people who have the ability to make good investments. Other wise why bother. If were never going to compete then what difference is there between us and Leed of present. We''re both going nowhere fast. No investment is risk free. But thats business, if done right reasonable investment should get you out of this very average league.   My point was that I don''t feel spending big is a bad thing if you do it right.

I for one don''t agree. You can buy yourself out of this league. Ambitions attracts players. Players who want to play in the top league in the world. The purchase of some quality player which have to be paid for will encourage the other better free to sign players to join as well. Eastwood and Sharp wouldn''t sign for us because we couldn''t convince them that we are promotion contenders. That is also why we lost Earnshaw. We couldn''t get promotion last term and we couldn''t convince him that it would be any better this season. The standard of football in this league means you need to spend £8 10mil to give yourself a very good chance of promotion. That would be enough to get in top championship players on a fee whilst enticing the freebies that your on the up. This is not a massive gamble and if spent wisely the players will be worth that and more regardless of whether you get promoted or not. Safri is about to go for £1.5 mil you telling me if we had signed Sharp and Eastwood for £5-6mil and we failed to get up we wouldn''t get the money back. If we have the money now which to some extent we do then now would be the time to do it. The biggest problem is we don''t have the managerial or board level clout do pull all the strings at the right time to make it happen. But that''s a different issue altogether. .

Surely we all want the same thing. A successful football club. It boils down to how successful you expect us to be. I would hazard a guess that most if not all the posters on here feel that we are underachieving and have been since the promotion season. For me Norwich is a top flight football club. That’s what I grew up with and that’s when I was happiest supporting Norwich. Don''t get me wrong I still love the club and still go religiously but if I am true to myself it isn''t as good as it used to be. What is the level that we should expect and would find acceptable. Ok. None of us expect Champions league or Premiership titles. But the board itself continue to say that the premiership is the goal. So that is I suppose what I expect. It is then only down to the time frame. The 12th of never isn''t acceptable. What is. Well that’s the $64000 question Surely what we all want to see is progress, a gradual improvement leading in the "medium" term to us challenging for promotion. I did not see that last season or the season before. Am I not allowed to express my disappointment at that from time to time? Good luck to all the players and to Peter. This is what he has wanted a new season with his own players to mould in to a team. I watch with cautious optimism and will give it time to come good. But I will still judge the performance from the first match as that is what I "pay" to watch OTBC Am I not allowed to express my disapointment at that from time to time?   Good luck to all the players and to Peter. This is what he has wanted a new season with his own players to mould in to a team. I watch with cautious optimisum and will give it time to come good. But I will still judge the perfomance from the first match as that is what I "pay" to watch OTBC  

Got to go. This guy is second choice to Andy Hughes fir christ sake. Way below Championship standard.

I liked Earnie. But he ain''t fit to lace Flecky''s boots. Class. Passion. Commitment. in the top flight.

Sky have this story. http://home.skysports.com/club.aspx?cpid=10&clid=45

How can any of us comment on this guy we know nothing about him. He might be useless he might not. But I''m not to proud to admit there''s been many a foreign player who has signed for prem clubs I have never heard of till I see them notching next week on match of the day.

Prove it. Tell me that we offered Sharp the same wage or better than that which he will eventually get when he moves. You think we''re big payers. Utter tosh. It''s been our problem for 25 years. Who says we are big payer. Doncaster. Delia. Father Christmas. You believe what you want but don''t tell someone who''s supported this club home and away for 25 year that we''re up pay big cos as many time as you do I''ll say Rubbish

Bollock$. you will never make. Hughes, Etuhu, Colin, Shachell, Doherty, Drury and Croft good players cos a couple of guy in the team are up for it.