Indy_Bones

Not giving Theo another chance, but other than that...nope :)

[quote user="Wandsworth Canary"]of all our recent managers Lambert has proven himself to be more than capable. However, he sees Theo week in week out and doesn''t rate him highly enough even to play for the reserves on a regular basis - to me that is enough of a statement on Theo ability or lack of it. I for one would go with Lambert''s judgement on a player over anyone on this board. [/quote]Wandsworth,I totally agree that Lambert is likely to know far more about Theo than I ever will, but we do need to keep in mind that he''s made snap judgments before and ended up changing his mind, the most obvious one being the Doherty situation.Lambert dropped him, removed the captaincy, and told him he had no long term future here and could leave the club. But then due to a spate of injuries Lambert was almost forced to play Doherty against Leyton Orient, and since that point, he and the rest of the defence have played well meaning he''s kept his first team place.Between Lambert coming in and the Leyton Orient game, he saw plenty of Doherty in the reserves and chose other options over him every single week for the first team (including unproven 18yr old David Stephens) and it was only the injury situation that changed this.This situation in itself proves that Lambert is not infallible, he can make mistakes like anyone can, and that sometimes you have to give people the opportunity to prove you wrong.If Theo had been given further chances like Lambert did with Doherty and played poorly, then I''d be with a lot of fans asking why he''s still here, but that hasn''t happened, and if the Doherty situation is any sort of marker, then performances or not in the reserves are unlikely to make a huge amount of different to the manager unless his hand is tipped.Let''s also not forget the amount of time Lappin spent languishing in the reserves under Roeder, did this mean he was a rubbish player, or was he a victim of the manager? His inclusion under Lambert would seem to argue for the latter, so it is so unreasonable to believe that Theo may well be in the same boat as Lappin was under Roeder in that he''s not a poor player, or even that he''s playing badly, but simply that the manager doesn''t want to give him a chance for whatever reason?

[quote user="Tim Allman"]So come on Indy - if you are in the know, which "other knowledgable coaches in the game" rated Theo? I''m dying to know so name the names. I''m not trying to wind you up or have a row, I''m genuinely interested. Cheers, Tim  PS. I''m hoping that these are coaches that are UK or at least Eureopean based.[/quote]Fair question Tim, and I''ll mention the two I''ve heard of  that are Euro based :) Before signing for us, Theo was apparently watched by 2 Bundesliga clubs - FC Schalke and VFL Bochum, where he is meant to have impressed both Oliver Reck and Peter Greiber (GK Coach). AFAIK this was purely based on A-League footage, and neither decided to take their interest further - Schalke due to having both Neuer and Schober who Reck considered stronger keepers than Theo, and I have no idea what happened with Greiber, although due to him just being a coach it could well be that the manager decided not to follow through (just like Roeder apparently did with Gunn). Please bear in mind that this is purely information I was passed from a colleague who''s based over in Frankfurt who was made aware of this, I haven''t spoken to these guys, nor am I likely to, so it could be argued that neither coach/manager rated him because neither side even made an offer, but there was apparently some good feedback regarding his ability, and it''s likely that uncertainty over ability to perform at a much higher level stopped a potential move. There was also the rumour about a move to Everton, but nothing was even confirmed about this being genuine interest from Moyes, although I don''t recall him coming out and stating he wasn''t interested... Outside of this, I know he was very well thought of back in AUS, with a large number of coaches and fans thinking he should be 2nd choice behind Schwarzer for the Socceroos. Hope this is of some use to you Tim Indy.

[quote user="Wandsworth Canary"]Ignoring the Colchester game - which is difficult. I was then at Brentford away. I took my wife who although not a huge footy fan did grow up watching her brother play semi-pro and has been to a few games with me. Not being a Norwich supporter she was aware of the Colchester result, but not the reasons. Anyway Theo was warning up in front of us before the match. My wife turned to me and commented how bad his positioning was for the warm up shooting, both stance wise and during saves (when they happened) and how he didn''t look like a professional keeper. Needless to say if my wife could spot this you would have hoped Gunn etal could have.[/quote]Ok,On one hand we have a player who''s won the "goalkeeper of the year" award twice in a row in the A-League (And it arguably should have been 3 years with 08/09 as well), was clearly rated by Crook and Gunn, and a number of other knowledgable coaches in the game, and whom I''ve seen a small amount of footage of where he''s performed extremely well.Or we can take your wife''s opinion instead which is based on watching her semi-pro brother and seeing a guy warm up...No disrespect intended here Wandsworth, but I know which of the two I''d go with, and it wouldn''t be your other half.Theo is an excellent shot-stopper who normally performs very strongly in 1v1 situations, but has a tendency to punch more than we''re used to seeing in the English game. For a small example of this there''s a few semi-decent videos on youtube demonstrating this to a fair degree such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0tampI5098http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3dwyw5hOt0&feature=related (2 or 3 very good saves)Obviously you can''t base player judgment purely on youtube videos (remember Brellier?), and this is clearly far less indicative than watching full footage from each game (it''s not that easy to get hold of a-league matches tbh), but it does show that he is more than able at making strong saves.Watch that link, and taking his performance against Colchester out of the equation, can you honestly say that he doesn''t look a decent keeper? He''s a victim of circumstance more than being a poor player IMHO, and I still don''t get why people are not willing to give him an opportunity.I say again - you cannot judge a player based on performance in a single game, and particularly not one where we as a team were dire.

I have posted this analysis on other thread, but it is more appropriate here IMHO:With regards to the Col U game, being fair to Theo, I''d only put him at real fault for 2 of the goals: Goal 1 - Semmy''s fault for a dogshit backpass which left the keeper with no real options Goal 2 - Theo''s fault partially due to the poor handling from Lisbie''s shot which let Platt in, although Doherty did a piss poor job on marking Lisibe and no-one covered Platt when coming in Goal 3 - Defensive issues, Platt again poorly marked Goal 4 - Excellent free kick by Fox, can''t fault the keeper for that Goal 5 - Again, piss poor marking, although Theo didn''t really move to attempt the stop, but clearly a defensive error Goal 6 - Good finish after again some ropey defending, not much Theo could do Goal 7 - AGAIN the defence, poor marking to allow the run into the area, and when Theo is coming for the ball, instead of covering the men in the area, Doherty followed Theo which left the gap for them to score from. The main reason we conceded so many, wasn''t down to having a crap goalkeeper, but due to a god awful team performance, highlighted by some of our worst defending in years. Amazing that the defence in general (including a dire performance by Doherty) were given further chances - but Theo wasn''t.When will people stop putting all the blame for this result at Theo''s door, and actually accept that although he didn''t have a great game, there were far worse players on show than him, and that he deserves another chance to perform.

[quote user="First Jedi"]"Just reminded myself why he''s not even on the bench!" Um.... wouldn''t that be because we released him months ago and he is back in Oz playing for another side....?[/quote]No, because he isn''t... Theo is still here AFAIK. With regards to the Col U game, being fair to Theo, I''d only really put him at fault for perhaps 2 of the 7 goals: Goal 1 - Semmy''s fault for a dogshit backpass which left the keeper with no real optionsGoal 2 - Theo''s fault partially due to the poor handling from Lisbie''s shot which let Platt in, although Doherty did a piss poor job on marking Lisibe and no-one covered Platt when coming inGoal 3 - Defensive issues, Platt again poorly markedGoal 4 - Excellent free kick by Fox, can''t fault the keeper for thatGoal 5 - Again, piss poor marking, although Theo didn''t really move to attempt the stop, but clearly a defensive errorGoal 6 - Good finish after again some ropey defending, not much Theo could doGoal 7 - AGAIN the defence, poor marking to allow the run into the area, and when Theo is coming for the ball, instead of covering the men in the area, Doherty followed Theo which left the gap for them to score from...The main reason we conceded so many, wasn''t down to having a crap goalkeeper, but due to a god awful team performance, highlighted by some of our worst defending in years. Amazing though that the defence in general (including a dire performance by Doherty) were given further chances - but Theo wasn''t...

[quote user="AndyWhyteUK"]I think that especially with keepers you can afford to avoid young keepers in favour of older keepers with tested experience.I''d much rather keep Fraser on loan and failing that pick up a tried and tested veteran![/quote]We''ve already got a more experienced keeper, problem is that because of a poor showing in THAT game at the beginning of the season, he''s already been written off by the fans and seemingly the manager...

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]the fact of the matter is Theo is not better than Forster, Rudd or Steer, he is behind a loanee and 2 kids... this says all it needs too.. thanks for your time theo and good luck in the career. [/quote]No Jas, that''s your opinion on the matter.I''ve not seen anything to suggest that Theo is superior to Forster who''s been excellent for us, but I''ve also seen very little from Rudd or Steer who are both meant to be excellent prospects, but were obviously not regarded as ready or why did PL sign Forster on loan?Anyway, it looks like everyone has already written him off regardless, so I may as well give up voicing my own opinion...

[quote user="GJP"]Perhaps injuries forced the change but I think Doherty has shown, once again, that he''s the best defender at the club. As for Theo... I didn''t like him in pre-season (which, again, I said at the time) we all know what happened in the Colchester game and since then I''ve seen him play for the reserves and he was errr not very good. The manager sees him on the training pitch everyday and has obviously seen plenty enough to form a solid judgement. He''s just not good enough.[/quote]Ok,  both Doherty and Theo played in the awful match at Col U, both apparently seemed to be way out of Lamberts plans after this, and you accept that it was primarily down to injuries that Doherty was given another opportunity, which in turn has lead to him regaining his place in the first team. Surely if Doherty had been playing consistently well in the reserves he''d have been given another chance way before this, and not just when a spate of injuries struck? With regards to your view on Theo in pre-season, I have to say that you formed an opinion very quickly on a player who only appeared in 2 pre-season games. Also the fact that he kept a clean sheet in one of them against Palace, and couldn''t really be faulted for the others against Wigan, and I struggle to see what put you off the guy so quickly? Interestingly if we compare results from Reserve games where either Theo or Rudd played we see: Theo: Southend Clean Sheet, conceded pen against Watford due to awful backpass from Francomb, Stevenage Clean Sheet, 1 against Northampton, 1 against West Ham, Rudd: 5 against Peterborough, 1 against Ipswich, 3 against Wycombe, 1 against Ipswich, Stevenage Clean Sheet So Theo conceded 3 in 5 games (0.6 goals conceded per game), compared to Rudd with 10 in 5 (2 goals conceded per game) So how on earth was he deemed to be playing poorly in the reserves when he''s conceded far less goals that Rudd? Until I see some concrete evidence that a once decent keeper has become a total liability I''ll fight his corner, because there seems to be a hell of a lot of idle conjecture and supposition here, and very little direct proof that they guy is not good enough, as against to not being favoured by the current manager.

[quote user="morty"]You can''t put someone on the bench who isn''t up to the job, really you can''t. So we''re 2-1 up and Forster gets sent off and Theo steps between the sticks to face a pen.Really, it can''t happen.I should imagine that Lappin did enough in the reserves and in training to convince Mr lambert that he was worthy of recall, Theo clearly hasn''t.The fan''s opinion doesn''t matter here, Lambert sees Theo in training, and its his opinion that counts. If Paul Lambert ever sees fit to recall Theo it will be because he deserves it and is ready, and I shall back the manager''s decision and get right behind Theo.[/quote]The point is that we don''t truly know if he''s up to the job or not, because he''s not been given the chance to show it.Let''s not also forget that Doherty was on his way out of the club with Lambert''s blessing, and was only recalled due to injuries - not performances for the reserves. So again, why is it ok for Doherty to get the chance just because of injury, and not Theo? No manager is infallible, but until we see more of Theo we just don''t really know if Lambert is right or not in this instance, I''m more than willing to back Lambert''s judgment, but I don''t think Theo should be unfairly slated on a single game, and virtually non-existent evidence regarding reserve team performances.

[quote user="morty"]Frankly, yes. Thats how it works, you play in the reserves, against usually lesser opposition to build your confidence, match fitness and sharpness.Are you seriously advocating giving him a place in the first team?Really?[/quote]But that''s the point, you don''t truly build confidence, fitness and sharpness in the reserves, because they''re nowhere near as competitive as a league game. I don''t think you''ll find a manager out there who sees reserve games as being of a high standard, it''s often no more than a fitness routine primarily aimed at getting injured players back into the first team.Am I advocating Theo for a first team place? To replace Forster - not a chance, he''s been excellent this season and fully deserves the no 1 jersey, on the bench however...maybe.Whilst Rudd and Steer clearly have potential, they don''t have the experience that Theo does, so maybe for games against stronger opposition we could put Theo on the bench, and against weaker teams, give the nod to Rudd/Steer.The point I''m really making is that Theo has been dismissed by a huge number of  fans on the back of 1 poor game after which he''s been pretty much banished to the reserves (just like Lappin was), and I struggle to understand why so many wanted Lappin to be given a proper opportunity, but are totally unwilling to consider it in Theo''s case.

[quote user="morty"]He has been played in reserve games, and by all accounts, has been awful.[/quote]That''s not being given a fair chance, that''s simply sticking someone in the reserves. Does that mean you then think that Lappin was given a fair chance by being put in the reserves as well then?As for not performing well, it''s not like we regularly hear about players having absolute blinders playing in the reserves against such fantastic opposition...I''m not saying he has played well, or that he''s been good enough to justify selection based on reserve performances, but it''s very, very difficult to judge a player purely on those games, because they''re not very representative.Until he''s given a run of games in the first team to prove his ability (or potetially lack of it), then he''s not been given a fair chance. I do find it hard to believe that a player who I''ve seen pull off some superb saves, and who was well rated before joining us, has suddenly become a miserable, uncoordinated clown in such a short space of time.

I''m going to go against the flow here and suggest that Theo is as much of a victim as Lappin was, if not more so.Signed on the basis of some excellent performances (admittedly in a very average league), highly rated by Crook, but then has a single poor game, and hasn''t been given a fair chance since.Of course his attitude and confidence aren''t likely to be great, let''s face it, if you were signed as first choice keeper and travelled thousands of miles away to do so, wouldn''t you be hacked off if you were dropped after a single game, especially in favour of much younger and less experienced options?The whole team was dire in the game Theo played, and some of the goals conceded were caused by the woeful defence, yet apparently it''s all Theo''s fault, which is typical of many fans viewpoints, in that if we concede a lot, it''s always the keepers fault, never mind the shoddy performance of the 10 men infront of them...It''s very obvious that Theo isn''t going to get a game under Lambert, so I''m surprised that the club isn''t doing more to arrange a move for him, particularly if we are paying decent wages.Either give the guy a fair chance - something he just has not been given, or get him out of here ASAP, because the current situation helps no-one...

[quote user="City1st"]That this ''Luddite'' drivel regularly crops up is a tribute to the stupidity of those who have attached themselves to the game. I It is not about using technology in football it is about how much control media outlets can have over televised games they have paid to broadcast. Of course it is in their interest to have stoppages whereby they can slot in adverts.[/quote]That you''ve responded with your own brand of drivel is interesting.You''ve put 1 and 1 together and got 13...Why do you naturally assume that if the technology was implemented, we''d be skipping to ad breaks whilst they consult footage??? We don''t go to ads when players are down injured, or when the ref is sorting out an aggravated situation that can take a minute or two to resolve, but apparently if we use footage to help with a decision, it''s going to mean endless ad breaks and the game turning into American Football!!!WTF have you been smoking???The subject IS about using technology to benefit the sport, and IS NOT about media opportunities and diluting the game. If we were told that the only way that the technology would be implemented was if the changes you are so adamant will happen, were also introduced, then I''d fully support your stance, but that''s just not the case.Comparing the idea to wrestling is beyond ludicrous, because we''re not talking about staged, choreographed entertainment, but a live sporting event with no pre-arranged victor. All the technology would do is help reduce injustices and poor decisions that can ruin an otherwise good game of football, and in some cases can be disastrous for one of the teams involved. It''s one thing to get relegated on the last day by getting spanked like we did by Fulham, but imagine if we''d outplayed them for 90 mins, but then the ref had given them a pen for the most blatant dive ever seen from outside the area. We go down because Biggles has an off moment...It''s not about constantly stopping play for every single thing, but making sure that the big decisions are correct, the technology is there to support the officials - not undermine them.But because you want to chat with your mates in the pub afterwards about how so and so should have been sent off, or that such and such an incident was a stonewall pen, then the game has to suffer for it. That''s the true ''dark age'' thinking right there.Still, thousands of years ago people were banging on about introducing some newfangled contraption called a ''wheel''.........

I''m all for technology usage, and I fail to see how we can justify a team essentially being ripped off with a poor decision, just so that we can discuss it ad nauseum after the game.Funny how it was used in the Masters football and worked perfectly and fairly, leading to this statement from the ref in charge (John Underhill):"It appeared messy at first but the amazing thing for me was that it only took 30 seconds or so to decide there had been a handball, and long after the decision was made everybody saw it as a useful and usable technique."30 seconds to clarify an important situation is nothing, it takes longer than that for players like Drogba et al, to pick themselves up after another theatrical dive!With the current speed of the game in England, it can be very difficult at times for the officials to keep fully up with play and be in a position to say with absolute certainty that something did, or did not happen, so why not remove the ambiguity where possible and sensible?Amazing that it''s deemed acceptable to get better boots which strike with more power and curve, kits that increase airflow and help players regulate temperature, and balls which move faster and more erratically then they''ve ever done, but suggest using technology to help deal with suprious and unclear incidents and everyone is up in arms.For those against the technology, remember that stance if we happen to be a cup/play-off final, and the ref disallows a perfectly good goal that costs us the game, and don''t dare have the temerity to rage at them, when you were deliberately against them using something that would have won us the game for the sake of a slight delay...

This result was down to more than just the absence of Holt upfront. If it''s simply a case of clubs tending to defend when their strong target man is missing, why don''t we see it constantly with other clubs?Chelsea had no Drogba during the ACON, did they suddenly start playing much deeper and blaming the midfield for goals conceded? Adebayor has also been missing for Man City, is it purely his fault that they''ve been conceding goals?The midfield probably didn''t give as much support to the defence as they have done previously, but sometimes you just have admit that the defence themselves are at fault. The first goal was down to poor defence on the left, followed by even worse in the middle when the shot should have been easily blocked, and the second was down to a total lack of marking.Neither of the goals were down to a missing target man, or a below par midfield. The balance of play may have suffered due to these factors, but the goals conceded were simply down to poor defending.

I''ve already made my thoughts known on this subject, but just a small addendum.Why is Lappin being lauded for his workrate and team play despite his overall footballing ability being very average, when Andy Hughes was mocked and dismissed for the exact same thing?I''d say that Hughes put in a higher work rate than Lappin every game, was clearly a team player, and even got back and helped defend when possible. It was the fact that he was lacking in other areas that most fans wanted rid of him, so why are dual standards being applied here?

I think some of the arguments being put forward here are somewhat spurious, the key one being that because we''ve gone on such a good run, then the players in there have suddenly become immune to criticism or that because of these results then automatically each player must have been great.Let me offer you an extreme example here, imagine the following team:CechBosingwaFerdinandVidicA.ColeLennonGerrardLampardLappinRooneyDrogbaAnd then imagine that they''d gone on the same winning run as we did, do you think it would be because of Lappin''s inclusion - or in spite of it?I''m not trying to criticise the guy here, but some people have to realise that we can get good results and win games, even if a player isn''t performing too strongly.Of course Lappin is likely to be high on the assist charts, because we''re the highest scoring team in the league, and he often takes corner and FK''s. I''m currently in the process of getting hold of the full stats for assists etc, but even if players like Russell, Smith and Hughes have only contributed with 2-3 each, then the difference over the course of 30+ games isn''t that much (approx 1 assist better per every 8 games)...I have to be somewhat concerned with his goal contribution as 0 in 33 is an awful performance, especially compared to the other players around him - Smith has 1 in 9, Hughes has 1 in 11, even Russell has 1 in 26 in a DM role!He''s also racked up more yellow cards than any other player in the midfield. So put all these things together and you have a player who''s fairly slow, doesn''t get stuck into tackles too much, performs slighlty better with goal assists, but is much, much worse at actually scoring them, and gets booked more than the rest of the midfield which includes Rusty who''s notorious for picking up cards from full blooded tackles.If we just looked at this coldly and based purely on stats, then we''d all admit that he''s arugably the weakest link in the midfield, so when this ''weak link'' has a run of poor to average games, then surely we need to consider whether or not a change would be beneficial?Thoughts?

AFAIK, McNally has been working to get Nike onboard, but apparently it''s not that straightforward.Nike do arguably make the best shirts so this would be a good move if possible, but being honest I don''t really care too much who it is as long as they cater for the ''larger'' fan, who''s not some Italian model, and therefore doesn''t want to squeeze into those horrendous, skintight, ''fitted'' tops.I hated the FlyBe shirt because even with a size 5XL it was a struggle to get on, seeing as how I normally wear 3-4XL, this was ridiculous, and to compound the problem further - there wasn''t a larger size available...

[quote user="Graham Humphrey"]How many games have you seen Indy? Doc is easily our best ball-playing centre-back (discounting Whitbread who we haven''t seen much of yet). [/quote]Graham,I''ve not seen as many games in recent months as I''d have liked due to geography and finances, however I have seen more than enough of Doherty (and the rest of the squad), both this season and over the last few years to make constructive observations about his playing ability.In no way is he our best ''ball playing'' defender, as his favoured choice is the 40 yard lump forwards, which perhaps gets near one of our strikers on about 15% of occasions. I''ve also seen a number of truly awful passes to both his defensive partners and the keeper, which on occasion have cost us, and on others didn''t - but really should have...As a strong physical presence at the back, he''s arguably as good as anyone in this league, but was found out badly in the prem and ccc, and also seems to suffer from confidence issues from time to time.Whitbread is a good signing by Lambert, but I''d left him out of full consideration at the minute due to his fitness recovery period etc, but I''m sure he''ll also be pushing hard for a place and is more likely to be in contention should we get promoted than Nelson and possibly Askou will (as we just don''t know how Askou would cope at that level).Good point you make about wages, and for me it''s arguably the key factor, why would we pay 2-3 times more per week for Doherty than we would for our other options, when he''s clearly not 2-3 times superior? I know there''s a law of diminishing returns here, but even so, there''s no way he''s worth even double the other choices. This is likely to be more than enough to make Lambert think very hard about a new contract, and unless Doherty is willing to take a much lower wage, he''s likely to be gone in the summer...

I''m not a fan of Doherty and remain unconvinced about his ability despite recent decent performances, but taking this out of the equation, I have to agree with Smudger (for once) about one point  here.The best defensive pairings combine a strong, physical player who will put their body on the line to stop efforts, with a more ''cultured'', controlled player who will not just defend solidly, but has the ability to play the ball out well to the midfield.Whilst we can argue amongst ourselves about whether Doherty, Askou or Nelson should be in the physical role, none of them can really compete with Spillane''s attributes in the other. Nor about his flexibility in being able to cover at RB if needed - either due to injury or simple positional covering in-game if Martin has pushed forwards.Moving back onto the Doherty situation, we''ll know much more about his value to Lambert when both Spillane and Askou are fit again and see if he keeps his place. I''m guessing that he will, and it will be Nelson who makes way. The key problem that I see here is that Askou is likely to be a preferred choice to either Doc/Nelson and if we assume he''s 1 of the 2 choices, then Spillane is going to be really pushing for the other and as I don''t think Nelson could handle the Championship that well, and Doherty has hardly been electric in it either, so it could well mean that Lambert will give Spillane the chances to prove himself in anticipation of playing at the higher level next season, and he is also likely to be looking for stronger replacements in the summer should we gain promotion, and if that''s the case, I see this as being Doherty''s last season here.Also, I fail to see how we can justify paying near Premiership wages for a player who is CCC/L1 standard at best...

[quote user="Canary Boy"]Mark Bowen was sacked along with Mark Hughes a few days ago.[/quote]Would be an excellent addition to the backroom staff if both parties were interested...

[quote user="Beauseant"]The simple fact is that, like Chris Martin, Doc will never win over some fans.[/quote]That''s right - those fans who simply don''t rate the guy as a player.Let''s be honest, the only real reason Doherty has really played under Lambert has been due to injuries. Even Doherty himself thought his time here was over and that he was 4th or 5th choice.There was a fair point raised earlier in the thread, in that Doherty WAS struggling for the first 20 mins against a Division 8 striker, and IMHO this simply isn''t good enough.Let''s not make the incorrect assumption that our current recent form is truly indicative of a players ability because it isn''t. All players go through runs of form - be they good or bad, but you''ll see this equalise over a season to show overall ability, and when you look at this for the last few years, Doherty hasn''t been good enough.Amazing that you can''t apparently come onto a Norwich forum and give an opinion one way or another without being abused or harangued...

I must admit that I found the idea behind this hilarious.Just had an angry phonecall from a friend of mine who wants to know why his wife is listed as going to Benfica based on her ''prowess''...Ha ha ha.

[quote user="The Butler"]There is a full report in the EDP all you heve to do is buy one.[/quote]Hmmm....Considering that not every fan actually lives in Norfolk, that''s not as easy an option as it might sound.The chance to drive for 3 hours from home just to buy a paper for a match report, followed by another 3 hours back, is a bit too much for me in these troubled financial times, hence why I, and other NCFC fans from outside the area like to be able to see match reports online...