Sing, Sing, wherever you may be...

Hi Nutty. Good post mate, keep it up. Hope the familys well.

Hello all, hope you are all well. Just a quick word after reading the board for the last 24 or so hours. Just wanted to know where the NCISA stand in all this. All the best. Lee

[quote user="Old Shuck"] I have to say that, after all this time, after all the spin, after all the quotes about "getting it right" and "we are taking our time" bla bla bla, they (the Board) really do have to pull a rabbit out of a hat this time. If the new Manager is as underwhelming an appointment as I think it is going to be, an appointment following nearly three weeks of waiting, three weeks of quotes about "high calibre" candidates and names that would "surprise us", then surely we HAVE to let our feelings be known? Count me in if that is the case. I have defended the status quo on a "better the devil you know" basis, but, at the moment, quite frankly, I''d prefer a new devil, known or not. [/quote] Well thought out constructive post Shuck mate, agree with you completely.

[quote user="blahblahblah"]Hello Lee, long time no speak.  I thought you had moved to Welsh Wales, where they don''t have the internet, and that was why you couldn''t keep in touch.  Have they really got a cable as far as Snowdon now ?  That''s the modern world for you.  I hope Arthur''s well, and that he enjoys the Ipswich game.  Do say hello for me, as he doesn''t appear to be about at the moment.  Strange that, you two never being in the same place at the same time... [/quote] I do live in wales, i also still have a house in Norwich. You are clearly trying to suggest me and Arthur are 1. I could make the same suggestion about you but that would lower me to your level. Strange you and Neil Doncaster are never about at the same time? Nutty-Yes i am a happy grandad now my friend, i return to norwich at least every other week to see the little un.

[quote user="jimmy500"] Lee Oliver wrote - Well if you had not been so rude and blatantly looking for a reaction or argument maybe you would have the respect posters like Nutty nigel earn. Look in the mirror.   I bet no one on this site (including you) can say that they havent read posts that annoy them.  Yours annoyed me, its not the content (most of which I support and agree with) its the ''I told you so'' manner of the delivery that I didn''t like.  And you cant say that you werent looking for a reaction or debate with that post because otherwise there would be no point in posting it in the first place.  Or did you just want everyone to agree with you to give your ego a boost. [/quote] Sorry to dissapoint you but you wont get any further reaction from me. I find it childish that you want to turn this into a post of " i told you so " so untill you can find something constructive to post there is no point in talking to people like you. Nutty Nigel-Hope the familys well old friend.

[quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Lee Oliver"][quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Lee Oliver"] [quote user="MK Canary"]I''m not saying you''re right or wrong, but what was your opinion of the board when we were in the Play-Off Final against Birmingham and then a couple of seasons later spanking teams thick and fast to win the Championship? Things have gone wrong and need to be put right asap, but like it or not, the board have had some degree of success. It''s like the Worthy Out campaign all over again - with people popping up saying the board have never done anything for the club and that it''s all been downhill since they took over, which it hasn''t. The board need to get the next decision right, if not they need to step down - but that''s football. However, Delia did save this club and that mustn''t be forgotten. [/quote] Ah yes but didnt a certain Robert Chase lead us into europe and our most succesful period? It wasnt my intention to come on as an i told you so, just pointing out, some of us could see this coming. [/quote] None of you could see this coming, it is all guesswork and speculation.  Isnt hindsight a wonderful thing.... And dont bother with the whole Robert Chase thing, it is totally irrelevant and doesnt make a fart of difference to whats happening now.  Also football is a totally different animal now. I predict that under this board (lets face it they are going nowhere!!) and with our new manager (Prediction - Aage Hareide) we will finish either just outside or just in the play off zone.  If I get this right I am looking forward to my ''I told you so moment''. [/quote] Well a lot of people did see this coming hence why for the last year or so more and more people have become dissalousioned with the club. The Robert Chase thing is relevant when you consider people are saying we have short memorys as Delia took us to the premiership. Prudence with ambition does not work. Look who invested last season-Derby, Birmingham and Sunderland, and guess who went up? As for your play off preiction i look forward to being proved wrong. James. [/quote] I agree that this board are failing the fans, in fact I couldnt agree more.  Yes Lee Oliver is spot on correct, what I dont appreciate is the ''I told you so'' style posts. I dont think the whole Chase thing is relevant anymore that was 10 years ago and football has moved on considerably. Agree that prudence with ambition doesnt work and massive investment is now required.  We need to raise funds either through new investors (unlikely) or by refinancing the debt we have.  We have the potential to also do a Derby or a Sunderland after all the anfastructure is there, no I am not talking restaurants I am talking fan base, stadium capacity, training facility etc. Our future hinges right now on the choice of manager and transfer budget available to him.  That scares the crap out of me because I just dont trust the board/Doncaster to get the right man.  Our future has never looked so bleak. [/quote] Jesus christ how pompus? Ok then i told you so. You win. Yawn! [/quote] What an arrogant response.  Not necessary. [/quote] Well if you had not been so rude and blatantly looking for a reaction or argument maybe you would have the respect posters like Nutty nigel earn. Look in the mirror.

Delia''s Devonshire Dirtbox-how you get away with that name is only for the web team to answer. If you have a medal  then yes! No, the point im trying to make is maybe if a few people backed me at the time of my trying to organise the protests theres a very very very very slim chance we could have nipped this issue in the bud.

[quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="jimmy500"][quote user="Lee Oliver"] [quote user="MK Canary"]I''m not saying you''re right or wrong, but what was your opinion of the board when we were in the Play-Off Final against Birmingham and then a couple of seasons later spanking teams thick and fast to win the Championship? Things have gone wrong and need to be put right asap, but like it or not, the board have had some degree of success. It''s like the Worthy Out campaign all over again - with people popping up saying the board have never done anything for the club and that it''s all been downhill since they took over, which it hasn''t. The board need to get the next decision right, if not they need to step down - but that''s football. However, Delia did save this club and that mustn''t be forgotten. [/quote] Ah yes but didnt a certain Robert Chase lead us into europe and our most succesful period? It wasnt my intention to come on as an i told you so, just pointing out, some of us could see this coming. [/quote] None of you could see this coming, it is all guesswork and speculation.  Isnt hindsight a wonderful thing.... And dont bother with the whole Robert Chase thing, it is totally irrelevant and doesnt make a fart of difference to whats happening now.  Also football is a totally different animal now. I predict that under this board (lets face it they are going nowhere!!) and with our new manager (Prediction - Aage Hareide) we will finish either just outside or just in the play off zone.  If I get this right I am looking forward to my ''I told you so moment''. [/quote] Well a lot of people did see this coming hence why for the last year or so more and more people have become dissalousioned with the club. The Robert Chase thing is relevant when you consider people are saying we have short memorys as Delia took us to the premiership. Prudence with ambition does not work. Look who invested last season-Derby, Birmingham and Sunderland, and guess who went up? As for your play off preiction i look forward to being proved wrong. James. [/quote] I agree that this board are failing the fans, in fact I couldnt agree more.  Yes Lee Oliver is spot on correct, what I dont appreciate is the ''I told you so'' style posts. I dont think the whole Chase thing is relevant anymore that was 10 years ago and football has moved on considerably. Agree that prudence with ambition doesnt work and massive investment is now required.  We need to raise funds either through new investors (unlikely) or by refinancing the debt we have.  We have the potential to also do a Derby or a Sunderland after all the anfastructure is there, no I am not talking restaurants I am talking fan base, stadium capacity, training facility etc. Our future hinges right now on the choice of manager and transfer budget available to him.  That scares the crap out of me because I just dont trust the board/Doncaster to get the right man.  Our future has never looked so bleak. [/quote] Jesus christ how pompus? Ok then i told you so. You win. Yawn!

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Lee Oliver"] We have had the same excuses of " if it wasnt for Delia we wouldnt be here " and "you cant be true supporters". Well sorry but Delia saving us was and is a myth and as for being true supporters, do true supporters just sit there and do nothing while the club they love rots away? [/quote] Nice to see you back posting Lee. It''s just a shame that you are trying to be divisive with the true supporters jibe. That''s the second time I have seen that since I got back from Burnley. So as  a true supporter please tell me what you have done to stop the club you love rotting away, apart from sitting on your hands and the time it took to write this post?   [/quote] Nice to hear from you again nutty hope you are well. Cant really say ive done a lot to be  honest apart from try to organise a protest when i saw this coming last year mate. Hope you are keeping well.

[quote user="MK Canary"]I''m not saying you''re right or wrong, but what was your opinion of the board when we were in the Play-Off Final against Birmingham and then a couple of seasons later spanking teams thick and fast to win the Championship? Things have gone wrong and need to be put right asap, but like it or not, the board have had some degree of success. It''s like the Worthy Out campaign all over again - with people popping up saying the board have never done anything for the club and that it''s all been downhill since they took over, which it hasn''t. The board need to get the next decision right, if not they need to step down - but that''s football. However, Delia did save this club and that mustn''t be forgotten. [/quote] Ah yes but didnt a certain Robert Chase lead us into europe and our most succesful period? It wasnt my intention to come on as an i told you so, just pointing out, some of us could see this coming.

Last year you may remember that i made plans to demonstrate against the way the club was being run. Well now i hope you can see where i was coming from. We have had the same excuses of " if it wasnt for Delia we wouldnt be here " and "you cant be true supporters". Well sorry but Delia saving us was and is a myth and as for being true supporters, do true supporters just sit there and do nothing while the club they love rots away? So now we find our great club joint bottom of the league. Are you still happy with the current regime? Some of the crap the club has come out with is beyond me. One minute its all we dont have to sell players, then its all transfer funds will be made available, then loan players are too expensive, then we let a caretaker manager bring in John Hartson????? Can anyone truely say they still have faith in our board, and please dont give me the predictable yes because thats what supporters do routine. Cheers Lee Oliver    

[quote user="cityangel"][quote user="Arthur Whittle"][quote user="cityangel"] Arthur, As Gazza says I''m a season ticket holder and have been for well over 25 years, first got hooked when my Dad took me a couple of times and have been a passsionate supporter ever since. I went to most of the friendly games pre season and so far I''ve been to Hull and Manchester City  this season and my next trip will be the WBA game. May I ask what that tells you about me and please be nice[:D] CA   [/quote] Thanks for the reply and sorry for the delay in response. The truth is i did think you came into the game late mainly because of your very strong support for the board which could of suggested you not knowing any different and your love of all things Huxs. Anyway the only thing that doesnt sit well with me still is the fact that after following city passionatly since the early 80''s and thus seeing us reach the highest the club has ever been in the following decade, you still support a board who has now taken us down to the lowest point in your supporting years. How can this be CA? Regards. [/quote] Show me one post of mine where I have shown strong support of the board Arthur, dont think you''ll find any. I support the team, the players out there wearing the green and yellow, always have and always will. [/quote] Hate to start posting on this forum again after all that happened before but cant resist after city angels claim not to support the board. Dear City Angel, during the time i was contemplating organising a proper demonstration against the board, you were one of my biggest critics. Nice to be in touch again, regards to Arthur Whittle, and Mark Smith.

[quote user="Scooby"] Get real. How do you know the Liverpool fans forged their tickets, they probably bought them off touts not knowing they were forged.  I think you pay too much attention to the media, listen to the real fans perhaps you will get a true reflection on what happened. Liverpool fans are by far the BEST in the world. [/quote] That would be the same "best" fans in the world who got english teams banned from europe and cost norwich 3 uefa cup runs? The same "best" fans who mugged my friend and i on anfield road? The same "best" fans who have openly admitted to me, and i have witnessed at england games that they rob there way across europe when on forigen travels? Cant beat that scouse wit can you.

My old friend Arthur is a genuine fan, intelligent and very passionate about what he believes in. You never know Arthur, i may just pop in for a swift one to hear how you have structured the campaign. Its a very good idea wayne and truely the only friendly soloution to have a reasoned debate. All the best my good fellow Lee oliver

Cheers nutty nigel, all the best.

excellent points well made 1st wiz keep the flag flying mate. you may have your work cut out with the "we are so proud of the lets be avin you incident" brigade, but i applaud your efforts. we need investors with ambition, not small club mentalliitys. why cant we expect to compete with bolton,wigan,pompey,blackburn,charlton,fulham,reading even birmingham derby sunderland? {i see sunderlands gates have gone from 17,000 to 43,000-glory hunters or what} we are not glory hunters but with our fan base we can easily achieve what half the teams in the premiership ar doing. Do we not deserve a decent club?

Please read 1st wizards comments about are board. Me and him havent always seen eye to eye but dont mock him for daring to speak out against our "small club" board. He makes valid points and apart from 1 or 2 constructive responces the only defence for our board people are giving to him is to take the p***! Well they do say making fun is the last resort. Obviously some of you have your heads in the sand about Delia{ who used to support ipswich-fact, and now will only sell to a norwich fan???} and the board but actually read what the guy has to say as he makes valid points and those against his opinions make jibes because thats all you can do to argue with him,you have no intelligent resonce to his views so you mock him. This club needs new investors from slovakia or stirling, it does not matter where they come from. Im sure if you ran a business and said you would only employ people from norfolk you would have the pc brigade on your backs like smudger when he spoke out against women commentaters. Good luck in convincing people wiz. I wish there were more like you. Lee Oliver  ex campaign spokesman and happy new grandfather  { campaign is still alive though-see next seaoson!}

Thought i would stick my head into this as 1st wizard was at 1 point totally against me and the board demo campaign { which is nothing to do with me anymore, but you should hear more next season from the new organisers}. 1st Wizard- Im glad you have finally come round to my way of thinking, and its only posts like yours and mine that might get the "happy little norwich" and the "lets be avin you" brigade to get there heads out of the sand and realise that we can be a decent club, and dont have to settle for mediocrity. People are slowly realising this club needs a new board and new direction. Whats so wrong with investment from overseas? Are people that stupid that they believe any buisnessmen from abroad are going to buy norwich and run them into the ground with debts? Are we not in debt at the moment? Wouldnt the debts be cleared by a takeover. Hopefully more and more of you will begin to see sense and that people like wiz are not wind up merchants but simple care about the club and feel so strongly they are not afraid to upset the applecart. I wish there were more like you. All the best Wiz. Ricky Knight, Smudger etc with your efforts to convince people. It takes time for people to realise but we are slowly getting there. Lee Oliver p.s im now a grandad!!!

Please i apologise, if  1st wiz apologises for dragging the subject up again in the 1st place then you will not hear from me again-well maybe 2 days. This site was about the football once

strange to see shack attack spell it hellseden exactly the same way i did. Let the comedy commence-que benny hill style music encore encore!

shack attack- cant wait for the autobiography, maybe 1st wiz could do the foreword-oh sorry i cant do the foreword to my own book can i? thats right, because theres only 1 dave in lowestoft, how stupid to suggest otherwise, and theres only 1 lee oliver in norwich im starting to find this a bit of a laugh now and can see you all love me really. how rude of me to miss spell anything-that never happens on this site-any other questions on norwich you would like me to answer? cheers lots of love 1st wizard sorry lee oliver

Ive watched this thread closely over the last 24 hours and this is gettting worse. The thought witch hunt comes to mind. Thank you mods-you see i do exist! City angel-in answer to your questions 1] this was supposed to be a 1 off demo and would not have mattered to my family satus-see other threads 2] i only had my address published ONCE! you can withold names and address but if you ask the EEN they will confirm that i did ask them to but they can only do so in certain cases 3] the person who has taken over is not cluck but smudger did offer. there is someone who will do it who says hes going to arrange a website stating FACTS but smudger is welcome to take over. 4] i have the emails the matter is being looked at ive been told theres no case for threats in the street as its my word against theres-much the same as on here really p.s. There is only 1 1st wizard and 1 theolster but we are the same person. for 1st wizard {me} how my knowllege of the area of norwich can be questioned was a daft thing to ask myself. i went to hewett school, worked at ballys on hall road before it shut in 97i think it was,.i then worked at uniglaze and anglian windows and now work with my brother in law on sweet briar industrial estate which is about a 20 minute walk from hellesden mill where i used to go fishing my local used to be the tuckswood which was on the tuckswood roundabout which now has a  mcdonalds and q8 garage.I used to drink in the murderers which ivan owns,i sit in the barclay which was redeveloped in 92/93 for all seating as was the river end,roy waller and neil adams do the commentry and phone in on radio norfolk,carl minns is part of the unfunny act the nimmo twins,i used to go and watch bands at the industrial pub which you younger lot will know as the talk. beelsie-see you have backtracted completely now. About as close to an apology as ill get-never seen anyone linking arms and marching down the street but i have been in grounds where opposition fans have infiltrated the stand ive been in and attacked us-i bet this never happenend to you though in the 70s and 80s. bob m-in answer to your question 1] beelsie 2] 1st wiz and the olster-we are the same person double p.s. is there anything else or can i leave you all now, do you want me to keep coming back?  

Yankee canary-how am i leader of the so called grove thirty when i live in tuckswood and have never been in nor know where the grove is? When did i say in the paper i was leader of "the grove thirty"? I think your transatlantic tiredness must have kicked in because you are confusing me with barkertwists post. I am 1st wizard and theolster but not anyone else. 2 identitys is more than enough.Im still 100% behind the campaign but with the young un coming-what would you do? Spend time with your only grandchild or waste time replying to people who dont read my threads properly like old yankee here. If you had thought carefully yankee { not one of your strongest suits} you may have got your facts right, but then you do have a higher opinion of yourself than others do. I do agree yankee with your comment about 1srt wizard but  the truth is out now that i am 1st wizard aswell. So could people please now leave me alone! I do not want to keep going over everything again and agian. There is someone who is doing the spokesman bit instaed but he reckons he will only start when we are safe, hes also sorting out a website. Can i get back to sleep now your starting to bore me!

Thank you for pointing out how stupid this all is canary02-Yeah thats right 1st wizard because i dont reply to your daft post its an admission of guilt, i was also self appointed, only had 3 followers, dont really live in tuckswood, was carlos the jackel, and my part time job is chief dwarf thrower,  and i also  post as 1st wizard to get this thread as many posts as possible and to see how long i can keep it at the top of the threads.Ok i admit it-im actually 1st wizard aswell, you can tell by the pompus comments we make, and the way we always contadict what we say. Many thanks. GAME OVER! I promise when i say i wont post on here again i will actually mean it one day,when i stop getting asked ridiculous questions when ive said i dont want to post on this site anymore.

bobm-cheers,didnt take you long to join the party led by self appointed leader 1st wizard.i dont know who you are bobm but i live in tuckswood.What exactly did me and smudger do to offend you? Nutty nigel- many thanks, i thought for a moment there we were all going to start watching the games in silence and leaving the grounds in single file.1st wizard-congratulations you have worked out how to use bold characters for your posts.Well done on your self appointment of lets stop theolster from defending himself campaign.You cant be far behind me in credibility stakes.beelsie-on the ball city, never mind the danger.........to everyone-that really is me done now-wouldnt want to offend 1st wizard by defending myself.oh and by the way, the papers only printed my addresss ONCE! How am i supposed to know what was going to happen.That is me hopefully gone.But you never know!