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You heard it here first.  Andy Hughes will return to complete the set of the Leeds United midfield from Elland Road in League 1.(my apologies, I couldn''t resist.)

The article confused me, mentioning Butterfield, Howson and Holt under a picture of R.Martin, Holt and E.Bennett.I was sure the picture was the same three for a while and it seriously confused me.

[quote user="PurpleCanary"]What that story from the club doesn''t say is what the renewal figure was and so how many people from the waiting list were needed to make up the shortfall, or what is the size of the waiting list now.[/quote]We found that figure in a previous thread.  It was somewhere around the 600 mark. (between 550 and 680 from waiting list numbers iirc).

[quote user="priceyrice"]Finally, thank you sir!![/quote]I am on a similar mission

Because it was a good double meaning to the thread title? Much better than the usual "holt signs" thread. Well done tangy.

the markets been open for a while now, if they got a largish amount on hughton before he got the job here, the bookies won''t want more on him however unlikely that outcome is.

Shockingly I utterly agree with tangy. Just to replace those that have left we need a right back, a center back, a left back and a striker, plus the desired replacements for Barnett, Ward, Crofts and replacements for anyone that leaves, and probably a right winger for depth as well. There is no way that we are going to sign that many players that are obviously better than our first team. We will sign some, but most will be around the level of our other players. Whittaker definitely is around the level of our other players in our defense, not obviously better but not obviously worse either. Frankly, I''d rather we did get the same level-ish players cheap/free, because it leaves more money for the stars.

I don''t get this "not better than what we have" stuff. Whittaker is the man keeping what we have (Russell Martin) out of his international side at right back. That''s pretty much the definition of better than what we have.

In the set of letters before nutty got his (because mine was some time ago now). That means nutty (687) and starks (744) were in the second group, which takes the available tickets after the first group have taken theirs. That puts the number of available tickets somewhere in the 550 - 686 range, with at least 57 (~ 10%) of those not being taken up. By the looks of that, there are probably only expected to be around 10 or so left after this set. I wouldn''t get you hopes up of being in that set. On the other hand we do know from this that the club has at least 20,318 season tickets purchased for next season.

I joined on or about April 1st last year for 550. I looked into it at the beginning of march and there was no waiting list, but I didn''t have the money at that point :(

Yellow. With Green Shorts. There are no clashes with any league opponents this year.

For the record, position 550 was in the previous tranche of letters sent out.

The reality check: Only two things matter in football. 1) What trophies you win. 2) What competitions you qualify to play in next season. As such we should aim for what we actually achieved this season: To qualify for the Premier League next season. After that we should aim to win as many matches as possible, but only as a means of achieving that.

What I''m really wondering about this is whether the clause wasn''t worded to be about ''bigger'' clubs. Somewhat like the arguments on here over the last few weeks, the fact we finished above Villa might have (in our view) invalidated that clause, while not under another interpretation (ie Lamberts and Villas). I expect we will find out what it said in due course.

Well, I enjoyed it in the spirit it was intended PC. For the hard of understanding, the second paragraph was a quote from: Alan Bowkett

"To be perfectly honest, I''m not always convinced of this "old boys brigade" argument. The likes of Lampard, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand, Ashley Cole etc. have been playing champions league football consistently for the past 10 years. Who else has been? Do we really think they don''t care? If they put in performances where they didn''t care, they''d be out. " Have you watched any England Matches in the last 10 years? Because performances that show they don''t care is precisely what Lampard and Gerrard (in particular) have served up in every match. Anyway, why do we want to pass on experience of how to lose at the international level?

"Anyone from Brighton or Leeds. Purely because it''s hilarious watching their respective forums imploding!" Particularly if we were to swoop in and stop Leeds from signing that player from Brighton. or vice versa, which is rather more likely.

"do we really think that Roy Hodgson is/has been watching any of our matches when he''s still concentrating on WBA''s fixtures?" Given that WBA play Arsenal next week, he could well have watched that one.

Here are some stats: Simeon Jackson: Played at all: 25 points, 20 matches = 1.25 ppm Not Played: 18 points, 16 matches = 1.125 ppm Started: 19 points, 8 matches = 2.325 ppm Started, if results stayed as they were: 15 points, 8 matches = 1.875 ppm As Sub: 11 points, 12 matches = 0.916 ppm Bringing Jackson on as a subsitute, net result: -1 point, 12 matches. Taking Jackson off when he started, net result: 4 points, 6 matches. Which look pretty good. Except for one thing, the teams involved do not compare well. He has started 8 times: QPR, Wigan, WBA, QPR, Bolton, Swansea, Wolves and Man U. We probably should expect quite a high points average there, given 7 of the 8 teams involved. The low impact he has had as a substitute does tend to suggest it may not be continued should he have played more matches against other opposition.

If he floats drag him out and burn him? Why get him all soggy first? Just see if he weighs the same as a duck.

Gruffalo. Did you read that blog post all the way to the bottom or just the title? I think I know the answer by the way. Because at the bottom there is this from the author: "Ultimately, he and I would agree on the wage data being a better predictor given its higher R2 value for the same reasons I gave at the conclusion of my post"

Gruff, as far as I can tell, you are arguing that the Transfer price index approach is the most accurate indicator of performance. However, you seem to have entirely failed to grasp that approach, which is based on attempting to measure the transfer cost of a squad, as it was assembled, rather than what the team paid that particular summer. Also PC - allowing him to conflate the total wages to turnover ratio with the player wages to total wages ratio? I am ashamed of you.

I don''t think that there will be a clear out in the summer. There will be changes, maybe even many changes, but not a clear out. A clear out to me says that the player leaving is an important aim of the process. But with the squad at the moment, I think that keeping the current player will be somewhere between Plan C and Plan E, even in the spots Lambert wants the strengthen.

Actually QPR''s goal difference deficit would be eradicated if the caught us on points. Looking at the fixtures, we should be mathematically safe at the end of the Blackburn match.

Michael Owen. Sorry, I thought you said best English goal scorer on crutches.