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  1. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    So who is lying ? Farage, who claims that the Tories tried to bribe some of his members by offering them peerages etc ? or the Tories who said no such offers were made ? as they can't both be telling the truth, perhaps some of the brexiteers on here might care to enlighten the rest of us as to who is lying. "In a tweet Mr Farage alleged: 'Even Boris Johnson’s Chief Strategic Adviser Sir Edward Lister is calling our candidates and offering them jobs if they withdraw. The system is corrupt and broken.' The Conservative Party deny the allegations which, if true, would contravene Section 107, 'Corrupt withdrawal of candidature,' of the Representation of the People Act"
  2. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    Blimey, this has stirred up the bigots.......................rather like the scene in Father Ted when the light is turned on in the retired priests home (Jurassic Park) i suspect their ire would not be the same were this have been announced by the Tories - but that would be unlikely as there is no 'profit' in this and it smacks of forward planning not finacial grabbing. And the reality is that the private sector has failed dreadfully with only 8% full fibre optic coverage. " This is significantly lower than many other parts of the EU – where only Belgium, Cyprus and Greece have lower levels of full-fibre coverage than the UK." Again something the bigots would be soiling themselves in rage were it to be the other way round. Of course the senile will not value what they don't understand and waffle about nothing being free ................when they use the NHS, the road network, see their great grandchildren attend school, trust that the fire service is there along with the armed services................ Read hand crank's ill informed guff about the internet (earler today) to get a measure of how all this is beyond their grasp. And like brexit it is also a measure of how the ignorant and the stupid will always believe that they are somehow being done down by others.
  3. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    that idea is up against the Brexit companies policy of a free gramophone for every street, free black and white TV for every one aged over 75 and a tin can telephone for any under 14 year old boy wearing shorts all year road and the new state broadcaster will be the BBC (Bigot Broadcasting Company) which will close at 11pm and feature news from across the empire
  4. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    Not much sign of it yet. nearly a big a lead as May had at the same stage in 2017 - though actually that was 21% with you predicting a 70-100 seat majority
  5. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    But not that this was merely part of a strategy of flogging of public assets out of the back door. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/mar/05/great-british-sell-off-how-desperate-councils-sold-91bn-of-public-assets but as the brexit bigots have shown, who gives a **** about what is passed on to future generations as long as 'our betters' assure us that they will 'send back' all those brown faces as they are the ones robbing them and that is what ten years of austerity have been about - a necessary cut to every public service to discourage thaose naughty foreigners from coming to the UK that's it, and it certainly was never, nor is, about allowing the rich to get richer..............ask all those old Etonians behind it all vote Brexit, and be proud of your stupidity
  6. " He said: "He was an amazing man both on and off the pitch - greatly loved and respected by so many, and who is going to be missed." amen, to that
  7. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    blimey, this will come as a surprise
  8. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    offering her a seat next to you ps check pm
  9. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    it is a playable clip
  10. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    it's only van wink using one of his various names and if you recall the ill informed guff he previously posted about a deal being agreed with the EU or how Parliament worked etc the above will not come as any surprise nor will the thought that he does actually live in France, as with the Citreon CI photo, when you recall him stating that the A11 was still single carriageway to be an accomplished liar you have to have a very good memory, vank wink does not,so it would seem
  11. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    The simple fact is that private companies have failed to deliver, much as with the railways. This is not just broadband, it is full fibre broadband, something the UK has around 8% whereas Portugal, which has full fibre to 89% of homes, and Spain, which is at 71%. It is not about some election bribeeither, as might be thought with free TV licenses, but a necessary upgrade that stops the UK falling further behind it's competitors. https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/nov/15/how-feasible-is-labour-free-broadband-plan-and-part-nationalisation-of-bt Embrace the future, or cling to the past.... the choice is that simple
  12. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    I expect hand crank will be along to refute that or he will simply sign in as Jools etc and set off on aother lie
  13. says he who bothered to fish out a thread that had slipped down the list and was only ever intended as a pee take of your sort ps you don't help yourself do you, whatever name you post under
  14. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    oh dear, it looks as if poor Bertie is going bald but at least there were some stunning new poliies announced earlier .....actually there weren't, just some paranoid attacks upon Labour and Corbyn, as " Johnson’s language is reminiscent of the Tories describing Ed Miliband’s plan for a cap on energy bills as “Marxist” - before adopting it two years later as party policy. " all too reminiscent of that other rightwing slap head, Hague, whose campaign revolved around the absurd slogan that Britain had 24 hours to save the pound......whereas the pound was under no threat, unlike him who was rid off very quickly
  15. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    is that the best you can come up with hand crank.........bring back Len, if that is the case ps GCHQ already does this
  16. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    so at least we can now safely say that Jools is van wink and so unsurprisingly he posts up misininformation that he is unable to back " you seem to have forgotten that in order to re-nationalise anything in the UK we need to be out of the EU. "
  17. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    As a brexiteer Johnson is back lying yet again, as this morning we have The PM said the proportion of EU and non-EU net immigration is 50-50. But actually, ONS figures show that EU citizens have only made up around 20 per cent of the total proportion. He claimed that as London mayor he took 11,000 knives “off the street” through the stop and search policy. But as Labour party have pointed out, only 4,500 knives were recovered through stop and search. He also said the murder rate fell below 100 for “several years” while he was at City Hall – a claim he’s made before that’s already proved to be incorrect. The PM says Jeremy Corbyn would have a Scottish referendum “next year”, but Corbyn says he would “not countenance an independence referendum in the early years of a Labour government”. The fat fraud also tried to avoid responsibility for the failed “Garden Bridge” project – launched under his watch at City Hall. As someone sacked from his job for lying, being divorced for lying and now not even trusted by his own immediate family you can see why he is beloved by brexiteers......... a liar who lies as well as they do........ask the DUP Brexit - a lie, by liars for liars
  18. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    yes, dear old Bill did, and to save you checking which is often the surest method " One in six patients waited longer than four hours in A&E in England during October – the worst-ever performance since a target was introduced in 2004, according to data. The shadow health secretary, Jonathan Ashworth, said: “The Conservatives have ushered in the worst NHS crisis on record. Under Boris Johnson the NHS is in crisis and we’re heading for a winter of abject misery for patients. “Our A&Es are overwhelmed, more so than ever. In every community there’s an ever-growing queue of people waiting for treatment. The Tories spent a decade cutting over 15,000 beds. Now they should apologise to every patient languishing on a trolley and waiting longer for treatment." I suppose it is one way for the Tories to be rid of 'useless mouths (pensioners) - kill them off through reducing health care " "
  19. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    As usual Jools/hand crank etc is lying, as " EU law explicitly protects the right of member states to nationalise industries. Art. 345 TFEU states “The Treaties shall in no way prejudice the rules in Member States (MS) governing the system of property ownership. " ""The ECJ has often been tolerant of member states accused of violating the treaties if their actions are “proportionate“, i.e. for a legitimate aim (which would include one endorsed by the electorate) and effective, but not excessive, in achieving that aim. Assuming that nationalisation was prominent in Mr Corbyn’s manifesto, conducted on a transparent timetable and proper compensation was paid, Mr Corbyn would have a strong case based on Art. 345. " ps isn't it reassuring to have Bill to set things straight.........................however it does highlight how easy it has been for the brexiteers to spread lies and so cause this mess.
  20. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    "Mr Corbyn has a long record of embracing antisemites as comrades "
  21. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    If Farage has evidence of that then he should come forward with that. ie phone records of when he and the other eight were called, and where possible by who, as cynics might suggest that is merely something blown out o proportion to distract from the anger being directed at him by the numpties who coughed up money thinking they were going to stand for Parliament. Farage is also the 'little boy who cried wolf' so should not be surprised if these claims are taken with a pinch of salt. More so when he tacked on the claim that he was not for sale. The average DFS furniture wharehouse has less 'for sale' than Farage. As to pulling the election then absolutely not. If there is good grounds for believing that there has been attempted corruption that could have affected the overal result* then that should be fully investigated and a decision made from there. But to pull the election now would open the door to future attempts to stop an election if it was not 'going your way'. * result ? surelyn an outcome Daddio, keep up with the hip jive man
  22. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    that will always be the case to an extend - but there is not the requirement to make that gesture, as has been argued here and PR is not a paint mix whereby the eventual colour is determind by the allocated colour added however it is portrayed MPs and parties simply coalesce around two or three major parties, who themselves have a very wide definition hence extreme right prospective MPs know that they have a better chance of being elected by being in the Tory party than the BNP - and similarly Trotskyites will adhere to the belief that it is better to try to gain control of a mass movement than ever it is to stand on their own platform, as they hold that the workers need leaders to lead them....unsurprisingly, them the real question is, do such as the Mail/Express/Sun etc set people's views, or merely reflect them ?
  23. Bill

    The Brexit Thread

    What works ? Obliging someone to turn up to make a meaningless gesture ? " those who fail to present themselves (without proper justification, or having appointed a proxy) at their polling station on election Sunday can face prosecution and a moderate fine. " " In practice fines are no longer issued for non-voters (7.4% of all voters did not vote at the 2018 local elections) "
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