"Why does everyone have this assumption that just because a player has been playing in the "premier league reserves" that they are any good? Surely if they were that good they wouldn''t BE in the reserves - I mean lets take some examples. I''m sure Elvis Hammond spent plenty of time playing in the "Premier" reserves, as did Carl Robinson and no doubt Johansson too. Just because they''re in the Premier reserves doesn''t mean they''re up against Premier quality players. More likely, this is where managers drop their Championship cast-offs to once they win promotion..." True, playing in the Premier Reserves doesn''t mean that he is premier quality. My point was, that, because he was playing for much of this season in a reserve team, it doesn''t mean to say that he is no good. I was drawing the comparison between playing against Premiership reserve sides each week, against quality opposition, compaired with reserve team football that we had to put up with, when you could be upto 3 or 4 weeks without a game, and playing teams from lower divisions that struggled to get a side together. You only have to look at recent results from our reserves this term, to see just how big the gulf is. As for," this is where managers drop their Championship cast-offs to once they win promotion...," Established premier clubs don''t keep cast off''s. With squad sizes generally smaller than they used to be, they are at least expected to do the job when called upon. The very heart of my point was, just because they were signed by Worthington, it seems that they are instantly low quality players, which seems to be the general consensus of alot of people on this board. And before you say it, no i''m not pro Worthy, i just think the new players which includes Etuthu, and Robinson should be given a fair crack of the whip before being crucified.