Robert Ketts Yellow Army

[quote user="ROBFLECK"] Just tell us you don''t have any money to support GR,   Stop fooling around and tell your faithfull fans the f***ing truth   City ''till I die [/quote]   yeah

no

[quote user="Mister Chops"]Terry Allcock, Ron Bacon, Albert Bennett, Ronnie Brooks, Geoff Butler, Adrian Coote, Louie Donowa, Robert Fleck, Duncan Forbes, Roger Gibbins, Daryl Godbold, Dale Gordon, John Greatrex, Bryan Gunn, Roger Hansbury, Andrew Hart, Robert Heffer, Gary Holt, Ralph Johnson, Phil Kelly, Sandy Kennon, Bunny Larkin, Russell Laskey, Andy Linighan, Chris Llewellyn, Roy Lockwood, Derrick Lythgoe, Phil Lythgoe, Mick McGuire, Ian Mellor, John Miller, Steen Nedergaard, Clive Payne, Trevor Painter, John Polston, Gary Sargent, Fred Sharpe, Peter Silvester, Brian Whitehouse, Graham Willis, Grenville Williams, Bobby Wilson. Are they playing ten minutes each or something? Good to see Steeno back... and Gary Holt... Adrian Coote, a Norwich City Legend? Phhhht. [/quote] I used to love the Steeno song, to the tune of Hey Jude: na na na na-na-na-nah etc (then really quietly) Steeno  

[quote user="5-4-1"]ditch the tv license -get out more- be more positive -see how many licence reminders you get-watch tv at friends  -listen free on iplayer-don''t watch  any tv-listen to radio 4-volunteer for 2012[/quote]   Don''t be ridiculous! ;) Anyway, if I ditched my TV licence, the licensing authority would start sending me threatening letters in red ink.

[quote user="ROBFLECK"] And stop the speculation and restlesness. GR must know that it''s not helping his side''s confidence ... [/quote]   And end up with an injury-prone/can''t score donkey?

[quote user="Carlos Valderrama"] I agree with Ginns on this.  As a licence payer I should be able to listen to Radio Norfolk 24/7 through my internet connection if I so wish...To be fobbed off with licencing rights bull is a complete cop out. But then lets be brutally honest here, the BBC is a pretty poor excuse for a state funded television network.  My take on it is the arrival of digital television has forced the BBC to seriously dilute their resources.  Perhaps if they concentrated on making top quality broadcasts for their 2 main TV channels and main radio stations instead of diverisfying with 1extra, bbc 3 & 4 plus all the other crap channels they offer then they could afford the rights to broadcast said football. [/quote] And sack Jonathan £18m Ross...

[quote user="Tickers"]It is BBC bashing since the claim has been made that the BBC are selling on the local radio services and making money out of this deal against the interests of license payers. I fail to see how accusing the BBC of trying to ''make a quick buck'' is not BBC bashing. They cannot broadcast over the internet unless they pay money to do so to the football league. Since Premium TV won those rights the BBC have to terminate internet broadcasting. There are then two reasons why the radio commentary is streamed via Premium TV. Either the contact the BBC signs for the local coverage forces them to make it available or the BBC sells the commentary on. If it is the first then the BBC has no choice and if it is the latter I can''t see why recouping some of the cost of covering the games on local radio is a bad move, since the BBC have to terminate the internet stream at that point anyway. I would suspect it is the former though, since without commentary guaranteed Premium TV would need to station commentators across the country which would drastically drive up the price of the service (thus stiffing the internet user even more). Internet streams and radio streams are different things, even if they sound the same. You aren''t paying twice for one product because as far as the football league are concerned they are selling two different products (radio broadcast and internet broadcast), and the BBC has only paid for one of those. It''s annoying, it really is as for ages I had to deal with live text updates from the BBC website which was like a very long and painful version of Championship Manager 1, but the BBC isn''t really stiffing anyone. Andy[/quote]   But the content is the same so I would be paying twice for the same product! There''s the rub. The licence fee payer is the loser because he or she is not able to access all of the BBC''s services. From the Beeb''s website: The BBC is paid for directly through each household TV licence. This allows it to run a wide range of popular public services for everyone, free of adverts and independent of advertisers, shareholders or political interests. The BBC provides 8 interactive TV channels, 10 radio networks, more than 50 local TV and radio services, the BBC''s website bbc.co.uk, and the on-demand TV and radio service, BBC iPlayer. We pay for all of the above. The unjustice is in our inability to access it all. The BBC should expect a bit of bashing now and again - it''s publicly funded and so should be open to scrutiny and challenge in order to be as fully responsive as possible to the needs of the British public.  

[quote user="Tickers"][quote user="still holding out for new heroes"] [quote user="anothatracksuitmanager"]to be honest guys I have little sympathy if they dont have the rights they dont have the rights, it''s an online issue.  They can''t provide you with content they don''t have.  It is two seperate rights, the online rights and the local radio rights. one belongs to bcc one belongs to premium tv. I''m sure the bbc would love to provide the content but they''ve been sold down the river with the rights going to premium tv. I don''t like but the bbc are as much a victim of premium tv''s uselessness as we are. [/quote] however the bbc are quite happy to take the service (Radio Norfolk) we''ve subsidised as licence fee payers and sell it on to Premium TV....the bbc wins both ways it gets money from the broadvast internet rights without coughing out for the rights themselves [/quote] I don''t really agree with the BBC bashing - it may be a stipulation of the local radio contract that the commentary is made available to whoever wins the internet broadcast bid. Of course if the BBC are selling the commentary I can''t think of any reason why that isn''t reasonable also - they can''t broadcast over the internet anyway and they already have a crew in place commentating for local radio. Selling on the commentary would actually subsidise the license fee, rather than the other way around. While not having internet broadcasting is deeply irritating (I spent the last six years in Durham so I know the pain) the license fee has to cover a huge variety of areas so the overall benefit to the BBC of bidding for this may not be good value for money.[/quote]   But they can broadcast it over the internet. I suspect they wanted to operate their commercial imperative (even though as a 100 per cent publicly funded body they have no commercial risk) and make a quick buck by selling the internet rights to a third party who then sells to us what we have already paid for through our licence fee. This is not BBC bashing; this is a consumer questioning why he must pay for something twice

[quote user="Thirst Wizard"]Has anyone got OFCOM''s take on it? [/quote]   fence-sitting, I''d imagine

and replace with who? mr wren and the jarrold family?

[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="b ginns"] If I don''t pay my licence fee, I receive a nasty letter from the licensing authority threatening me with legal action. So I pay and in return I expect full and free use of the BBC and all its services.   [/quote] do you see whats wrong with your second sentence? jas :) [/quote]   no?

[quote user="SPat"]It''s incredibly annoying ( I live in nottm) but surely the BBC reply answers your question. The BBC do not own the rights to broadcast over the internet. So you haven''t paid twice. That''s like saying I can hear Glastonbury on radio 1 so surely that gives me the right to get into the festival. Sadly not, two different things. Essentially, as the BBC won''t get any more money than the license fee, they probably can''t offer much for the rights, wheres the shower that do own the rights obviously make a pretty penny from it.  Gets on my t*ts too. [/quote]   Ok, but it is my licence fee - and everyone else''s - that pays for the BBC to be able to broadcast the match. So why should I pay extra to be able to listen to it?

leave Cureton on the bench and let him stew for a bit

If I don''t pay my licence fee, I receive a nasty letter from the licensing authority threatening me with legal action. So I pay and in return I expect full and free use of the BBC and all its services. Not so, as everyone on this site will know. If you want to listen to BBC Norfolk''s coverage of NCFC games you have to pay a third party. I resent this and don''t accept their rubbish excuse for me having to pay TWICE for a BBC service that I have already paid for. I complained to the corporation. Here is their patronising response. Tw*ts. -----Original Message----- >{Date:}             14/04/2008 >{Feedback Type:}    Complaint > >{Title:}            >{First Name:} >{Last Name:}        Ginns > > >{Email:}           >{Phone:}            >{Postcode:}         >{Country:}          England > >{About:}            General >{Network:}           Other BBC > > > > > >{Programme Name:}   >{Transmission Date:} > >{Comments:} >Dear Sir/Madam, > >Please clarify your reasons for me not being able to listen to Norwich City FC football matches online from my home in Kent. > >The BBC website explains that it is a rights issue, affecting high profile Premiership matches, that stops it broadcasting games to a wider area. > >To me, and I''m sure many more like me, Norwich games do not qualify as "high profile" events. > >I pay my license fee and am not prepared to pay for a subscription to a private company to listen to coverage that I have already subsidised. > >Why should I pay twice? I am not happy with this situation and strongly believe that it goes against your public service remit. > >I look forward to hearing from you. > >Yours sincerely,     BBC Complaints [T2008041400HAS010Z3497047]Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:03 PM From: "complaintresponse@bbc.co.uk" <complaintresponse@bbc.co.uk>Add sender to Contacts To: Dear Thank you for your e-mail regarding the broadcast of local football on bbc.co.uk . I appreciate you are unhappy a recent Norwich City FC match was not available to listen to on the bbc.co.uk website. If I  may explain the BBC only has the rights to broadcast local matches via the radio waves. This does not give us the rights to broadcast the coverage online - which has to be negotiated separately. In this case the rights to broadcast the game live via the internet were secured by another organisation. I acknowledge you are unhappy the BBC did not secure the rights and be assured your complaint has been registered on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC. I hope this information helps to clarify the situation and thank you again for contacting the BBC. Regards Tony Brown BBC Complaints __________________________________________  

Cardiff 3 - 1 Norwich. Norwich score first then concede three in the second half as defence goes to poop

[quote user="canarytim"] I recently e-mailed Neil Doncaster to complain about our inability to sign Shola Ameobi at what I thought was a very fair price, I was very surprised to recieve a reply. He asked I ring him to discuss the matter which surprised me even more. Credit to him I do not think many Cheif Execs would bother with "joe public". So I did and I have to say he confirmed what I already thought...... we do not have alot of money.  I could not understand why we backed Worthy with the purchases of Aston & Earnshaw but seem to be failing Roeder. The truth is, as he says we were in the premier league then and the risk was acceptable the last thing we  need is to further endanger the club financially.  I told him I felt the club with gates of 25,000 we should be challenging most teams in this league in the transfer market but as he says the income from this is nothing compared to what is  being pumped into the likes of QPR, Wolves, Sheff U etc by super rich owners which led me to the question of the Turners. If ever won £50 million ( highly unlikely) I would just give the club alot of that money and I still feel they could do more, but it is true that their business maybe worth  millions but how much of that is actual cash ? The truth is Stoke & Hull  proved last year a team can be built on not great resources so we must look positively at things. Roeders Norwich (He inherited a team as bad as Ron Saunders & Worthy dont forget) would have made the playoffs last year so there is hope he can mould a team in a couple of years to do that even though financially things are very tight. I do hope though despite the great job Delia & Michael have done that if a GENUINE offer is made for the club, that will allow us greater scope in the transfer market, that they would  step aside. Mr Cullums offer was never in my book serious, if you are worth £1.7 billion why haggle over £30 million ?   [/quote]   Good points

And more "award-winning journalism" from the Pinkun, which blows away its readers today with the scintillating expose that Dejan Stefanovic says he has settled in perfectly to City''s back four but feels City should have more points by now... Am I alone in thinking we should expect a bit more from our region''s "top" media publishing company?  

He was quite good - in the early 90s.

[quote user="Mook"] [quote user="b ginns"]Everyone in the current squad; no exceptions.[/quote] Valuable comment, thanks. [/quote]   Speak as you find.

Everyone in the current squad; no exceptions.

It is the lack of a viable alternative that keeps Carrow Road full. And the misguided hope that this season will be different...

Who are over 6ft 2ins tall and who we can pay loads of money to every week in return for a poor contribution to our increasingly pathetic football club?

Gordon Brown''s fault (he did visit on his summer hols...)

[quote user="jas the barclay king"] Wasn''t Sarah Thomas the Norwich Model? whatever happeened to her? jas :) [/quote]   didn''t she used to go out with keith o''neill?

this forum''s poop