I agree. After we whooped the binners at Porterloo Road, I was in a city ale house where a slightly inebraited Mr. Piper was singing OTBC between every song the band attempted to play over him. He was 100% city that day. He also told me that Alan Brazil didn''t actually like the binners but just played along with it for the ''veiwers'' (although he may have said this to stick up for him as I had some ''choice'' words to say about him by this time of night)