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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/40411/ Especially around 1 minute 26 seconds remaining.

Iwan scored 19 in the League in 1998-99, and four more in the FA and League Cups.So while it''s true that he scored 23 goals, Hoolahan''s Middle Finger was right to say we haven''t had a striker score 20+ in the league since Sutton.

Couple of urban myths that I''ve heard over the years, but my painstaking ten minute research has thus far shed no light.1. Did he really respond to away fans who had been chanting ''you fat bastard'' at him all game by doing one-armed push-ups in front of them when he scored?2. Did he really wear a Norwich shirt under his Reading one when he played for the Royals, and reveal it to the Ipswich fans after scoring against them?Any more that you know are true (or false) - and can you supply links to video or articles to back them up?Looking forward to hearing some Flecky memories, if nothing else.

I did post a couple of weeks ago that my friend had spoken to Huckerby when he met him after a San Jose game. Huckerby told him he was retiring due to his hip injury, as well as more or less everything that has appeared in his press interviews over the last 48 hours. The moderators deleted my post (I''m not sure exactly why), but not until after ''When Saturday Comes'' and ''Lineo'' had had a chance to call me a ''bullshitter'' (pardon the language - I''m just quoting). See http://www.pinkun.com/cs_pinkun/cs/forums/1821467/ShowPost.aspx for the responses to my message, though my opening post is nowhere to be seen. I wonder whether the moderators would consider finding the deleted post, including quotes, and re-posting it?Anyway, it just goes to show that not everyone who comes on here is making things up. Still smell like bullshit, fellas?

Having read replies to this post as well as others, it appears that some people are fans of Drury and others not. Those who are defending him are saying that he defended pretty well, got in some timely blocks, etc. Well I guess I have to agree - he did defend ok. My major gripe would be that his distribution was just so poor! He hit long hopeful balls up front nearly every time he got it. And Strihavka wasn''t winning anything in the air, which in turn led to Cureton not getting a sniff. Maybe Drury is under instruction to look long every time he gets it, in which case I don''t blame him but rather the management. When you compare Drury''s performance to that of Otsemobor, I would say they defended at a pretty similar level, perhaps Otsemobor just shaded it, and he was also far, far better going forward, overlapping, putting crosses in (did you see it when he stripped their left back for pace in the first half over a 20 yard sprint?!), and playing the ball into the midfield or forwards. Why do we find it so hard to be patient and just keep hold of the ball? It''s not the end of the world if you have to go back to your ''keeper to retain possession on occasion. For crying out loud, these guys are professional footballers, they should be able to keep the ball for as long as they like. I don''t think we should ever lose the ball except when taking risks, trying the killer pass, taking on defenders, but only in the final third of the pitch. I guess Drury was just the worst culprit last night, and that''s why he annoyed me so much! But yes defensively he was ok, in my opinion. Also, I''m aware that this was a one-off game and, not going regularly enough to get a balanced view over many games, I''m perhaps basing my arguments on rather flimsy evidence, but I''m just saying what I saw..

1. Nice shiny scoreboard. 2. Zamora was quality, one of the best players on the pitch. Ditto Mark Noble. 3. Why was Ashton getting booed? So he left us to play at a higher level - so what?! How do you think we got him here in the first place?! If your career was only 10 years long you wouldn''t hang around for a year at somewhere you didn''t want to be, so why do you expect footballers to be any different?Small minded bigots, especially the guy who sat behind me and started shouting homophobic abuse at Ashton. Very clever mate, your parents must be so proud... 4. Drury is shocking. Every single time he got the ball it was a long hump up the field. Why oh why oh why can''t players learn to JUST KEEP THE BALL?! 5. Otsemobor, Marshall, Croft were our best three players. Otsemobor got forward very well and looked comfortable on the ball; Marshall made some great saves; Croft was full of running, and was willing to take players on in the final third. So what if he lost it a few times? At least he was doing it in the right areas of the pitch. 6. We need a centre back, left back and another striker to complete the squad for this season. Shackell and the Doc did ok, but were caught out of position too often. We need a quick, strong player at the back. Lappin should start ahead of Drury on that showing. Not convinced by Strwhateverhisnameis, though Brown looked ok, as did Cureton. 7. Fotheringham and Chadwick were both ok, nothing more nothing less. They seem to me as though they''re bog standard players. Players such as these will not get us promoted. Chadwick ran a lot but was ''one-paced''. Didn''t seem to speed up when he was sprinting. 8. I''m happy because I''d much rather to have Russell at the club and a million pounds in the bank that have Etuhu still here! 9. I''m also happy because I had my photo taken with Eggert Magnusson on the bridge after the game. Quite what he was doing there I have no idea. His suit felt very cheap. He''s probably got no money left for clothes, what with giving £60,000 of his money to Lucas Neill every week!   10. Whenever the ball was wide in midfield and we were looking to feed the ball into our strikers, West Ham flooded the area with players, making it really difficult for us to pick our way through. When they had the ball wide in midfield, we kept our shape - 4/4/2 - but as a result passes into their forwards'' feet were too easy as we didn''t get extra bodies to close the space. This was the one of the major differences for me, and it explained why they moved the ball into the final third so much quicker and more effectively than we did. Please let me know which points, if any, you agree with or otherwise.

What do you think the chances are of us getting a couple of West Ham players on loan? They have an abundance of strikers - Tevez, Zamora, Carlton Cole, Sheringham, Ashton (when fit), Harewood, as well as lots of defenders (whose name''s I can''t be bothered to type, but here''s a link - http://www.whufc.com/team/?page_id=1219 ). With Grant''s connections, will any of the players who aren''t getting a regular start be interested in a loan spell with us? As much as I like the guys who play for us, most of whom are nice as pie when I speak to them (quite frequently in my job), we could do with some defenders, couldn''t we?!  

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=396655&CPID=10&clid=2&lid=2&title=Kev+surprised+at+Hulse+talk

Just to add a touch of balance to the story, here is the full version of Worthington''s quote (I have italicised some words): “It''s a time when a lot of people in football are taking their holidays, myself included, but there is still a lot of work going on behind the scenes,” he explained. “We have identified a number of players who would strengthen our squad and it''s a case of putting in the phone calls and seeing what the situation is. It''s question of adding everything up - the transfer fees, the salaries, whether clubs are prepared to let certain people go out on loan, and such-like - and then seeing if something can be sorted out. “These things take time and, as I said, it''s case of everyone being patient. You never say never in football so I wouldn''t rule out the possibility of something happening soon. But I should imagine it will be a little while yet before we are in position to announce any new arrivals.” (from http://new.pinkun.com/content/ncfc/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PinkUnOnline&tCategory=Norwich&itemid=NOED22%20May%202006%2017%3A58%3A55%3A450 )  

How can you say we''re stuck with him? I''d love it if we were ''stuck'' with an entire squad full of players who are heading to the World Cup instead of some of the jokers we''ve got at the moment...

Can you please post the link for the Newcastle story? I can''t find it!

Seems like exactly the sort of player who would win us games at this level. Not pretty, but effective. We would be able to offer him a pretty good package compared to other Championship clubs, and a certain starting place, which he may not get if he stays in the Premiership.

I saw the highlights of Saturday''s game and it looks as though our pitch is a bit ropey?! When it was installed we were promised  "This will be as updated as we can get it in today''s world. There will be no difference in the pitch in December or January than August and it lasts for 10 years." (''John Hewitt, managing director of Hewitt Sports Turf - which brought the Dutch design to this country). http://new.pinkun.com/search/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&itemid=NOED19%20Jun%202004%2000:15:18:483&tBrand=PINKUNOnline&tCategory=search So what''s the deal?

I saw Mike Walker shopping in town yesterday.  

Does anybody have any update on this issue? I''ve been away for quite a while, and I''m wondering if anyone knows any more details about what''s happening?

Are there any pictures on this or the official website - I''d be interested to see how the new infill is shaping up, so far I''ve only seen it from the outside!

Brum Uni Canary - hockey is a sport that is full of skill, and is great to play. It will never become a widely watched televised sport, as the action is too hard to follow. The ball is too small (and similarly the puck in Ice Hockey), and therefore the general public as a whole will never widely watch it on television, however much the BBC or anyone else would like to show it.

Brum Uni Canary - hockey is a sport that is full of skill, and is great to play. But it will never become a widely watched televised sport, as the action is too hard to follow. The ball is too small (and similarly the puck in Ice Hockey), and therefore the general public as a whole will never widely watch it on television, however much the BBC or anyone else would like to show it.

Thanks to the respondents so far, now let''s have some more! OTBC

Well I need a hand too, so I guess I''d better respond here! 1. What is the meaning/origin of your nickname? My initials plus my favourite number. 2. How long have you been using this forum? Since 29th March, 2004 apparently. 3. Where do you manly log on to this forum from? (Home, Work, School/College, Internet café etc..) Home only. 4. What do you enjoy most about the forum? The level of knowledge that the posters have - we are all Norwich fans, and we all want the best for our club, but we all have different ideas on how to get there! I enjoy the fact that it keeps me linked to the club and the goings on, even though I live in London. 5. In what way do you feel the anonymity of using a nickname effects what you post? I think it does make you come out of your shell a little bit more than you otherwise would if posters knew your full name, address, etc. You can really say what you feel, and you can only be ''got at'' through the words other people post back, there is no physical threat from someone who disagrees with your views. 6. What way do you feel the anonymity of using a nickname effects how others perceive you and your view’s. Your nickname can say a lot about you, though at the end of the day most people on here are just faceless people to the rest of us. We don''t know anything about someone apart from what they choose to post. 7. How do you feel your use of the forum affects the amount of time you spend discussing Norwich City Football Club? I spend a lot more time discussing it on here, obviously, but I also get rumours, etc. from others on here and discuss them with non NCFC supporters down here. 8. How do you feel your involvement with the forum affects your support of Norwich City Football Club? It definitely makes me feel closer to the club, and being an exile, it is one of the few ways I can get a sense of involvement and community. 9. What do you get from using this forum that you don’t from more traditional forms of exchanging views such as talking in the pub or at work? Well the internet is definitely the new public sphere (see Jurgen Habermas'' work on this subject - and no, he''s not a rumoured new signing, but one of the Frankfurt School''s best known thinkers). The internet is what the public baths were in Roman times, and what coffee shops were in Victorian times - a place to discuss the day''s news, and to speculate and put the world to rights. The difference is that the internet is open to everyone (theoretically), regardless of race, class, gender, or power (though money is an issue in terms of access). BBut here you get a wider range of opinions, and people have time to formulate responses, which in the pub you don''t necessarily get. The arguments here are more well thought out. 10.What are the disadvantages to using this forum as apposed to more traditional forms of exchanging views? The lack of liveness and imidiacy. The fact that (like someone else said) sometimes it is easy to be misunderstood, and things taken far too literally. 11. What unwritten rules do you feel should be followed when using the forum. As long as it''s within the laws of the land, I feel that we can post anything. That is one of the best things about the internet. 12. In what ways could this web forum be improved? A threaded view as the default would be the main one, rather than responses to threads being linear, meaning that we don''t know what people are actually replying to! Good luck mate, and make sure you do mine too!

There''s me, sitting watching Bryan Gunn''s great idea, and at no point did it occur to me that I need some urgent help too! I need responses to 15 questions for a really important piece of uni work, and I need them asap! 1. What is your gender? - male - female 2. What is your age group? - 16-25 - 26-35 - 36-45 - 45+ 3. Do you have access to Sky Sports channels (1, 2, 3, Xtra, News)? - yes - no 4. Have you ever watched a live football match on tv (please select one)? - never - once - a few times (less regularly than once a month) - regularly (once a month or more) 5. Have you ever attended a live football match (please select one)? - never - once - a few times (less regularly than once a month) - regularly (once a month or more) 6. If you answered either ‘A few times’ or ‘Regularly’ to both Questions 4 and 5, please compare your experience of the football match(es) between actually being there and watching it (them) on television. If you answered either ‘Never’ or ‘Once’ to either Question 4 or 5, then please skip this Question, and proceed to Question 7. For each of these please choose ''better at match'', better on tv'', ''both the same'', or ''don''t know''. - visually - aurally - atmospherically - overall 7. Have you ever watched ‘Final Score’ on BBC’s Grandstand, or Soccer Saturday on Sky on Saturday afternoons? - yes - no 8. Would you prefer to see live football at this time instead? - yes - no - don''t know 9. Given that live domestic football cannot (by law) be broadcast live at this time, do you think that such programmes are an acceptable substitute? - yes - no - don''t know 10. Which club (if any) do you support? ................ 11. Do you watch the club play live? - yes - no 12. Would live televised football on a Saturday afternoon prevent you from going to watch your club? - yes - no - don''t know - not applicable (don''t watch them live anyway) 13. Do you consider yourself to have witnessed the event (the football match) if you watch it live? - yes - no - don''t know 14. Do you consider yourself to have witnessed the event (the football match) if you watch it on TV? - yes - no - don''t know 15. Do you consider yourself to have witnessed the event (the football match) if you watch either Soccer Saturday or ‘Final Score’? - yes - no - don''t know --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thankyou so much people if you take the time to fill this in for me. You can email me your answers at mg7ncfc@yahoo.co.uk or post you answers in a reply to this if you prefer. I''ll owe you all a pint, promise!

Not necessarily for Norwich City related stuff, but in general? I was on another forum once before, and people came up with some gems (some well-known, some not known at all). I got some great ideas off other people, maybe we can all share our knowledge and give each other a few tips? Among my favourites are - the Guardian online Football section (very funnily-written) - http://football.guardian.co.uk/ - the e-soccer site that someone on here suggested once before - http://www.e-soccer.com/news/norwich_f.html - the Radio Times, to tell you what''s on tv now - http://www.radiotimes.com/tv/now.html - IMDB - for everything you ever need to know about every movie ever - http://www.imdb.com/ - Free online translator from English into about ten other languages and back - http://www.freedict.com/ - The helicopter game - guarenteed to get you the sack! - http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf - and finally a TV listings / review site called the Custard - http://www.thecustard.tv/ What sites are among your favourites?

In the Kenton thread, I put it with a little wink after, in a gentle nod to DD. It is a horrible little phrase, I think we should just stick to OTBC. OTBC. See? Eh? :)

... mainly because I don''t know anybody with connections! But whilst at training for my team tonight, I was talking to a lad who is mates with Darren Kenton, Darrel Russell (and, since he joined us, Clint Easton). This guy went on holiday with the other three, who used to all hang about together when at Norwich. Now he tells me that he''s spoken to Kenton recently, and that Kenton would be interested in a move back ''home''. Apparently Paul Sturrock has told Kenton that he considers him a squad player, and nothing more, and now Kenton is up for leaving Southampton. My friend swears that this is true, and even showed me ''Kents'' on his mobile to prove that he knows him! Now of course he could have a friend called Kents, but it was only when I said I supported Norwich (I live in London, so not everybody knows that I do) that he said, ''Oh, I know a few lads who used to play there.'' I asked him if he meant youth-teamers (as he was a youth teamer at Watford before getting released), and he said, ''No, first teamers - Darren Kenton, Darrell Russell and Clint Easton''. Then he says that Kenton would definitely come back here, but there has been no bid from City, nor any interest at this stage, as far as he is aware. I know this is one of those posts that everyone hates, but I thought I''d let you know anyway. I know I''d take him back. OTBC Keep the faith ;)

I missed this the first time round - not sure if it was reported on the Pink''Un website? According to bbc.co.uk, Worthington didn''t go for Macho because "He had his injury last season and I was not 100% clear on that situation even though he is fit again. I thought it was too much of a risk from the club''s point of view to take someone on after that type of injury." http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/3926751.stm is the link. Wonder when Ward was contacted, then? And I also wonder why Worthington invited him for a trial, knowing about his injury problems. Maybe something happened in training to make Worthington''s mind up. If he simply wasn''t good enough, though, then surely Worthy would have just said so? Any thoughts?