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  1. Bovril


    Most strikers in a 4-5-1 fail unless they put in great work-rate. Holt is the obvious example who puts in incredible work rate.

    Torres at Chelsea is another example. He has fantastic players supporting him but he has had to sacrifice some of his natural goal-scoring positions in order to work hard for the team.

    Morison is a good finisher, especially with his head but he is not as adapt to putting in a shift for upfront by himself, indeed most strikers aren''t.

    As others have said, upfront with Holt alongside, he will score goals. Dragging defenders from side to side and running for lost causes is not his game.
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    16,000 @ 30quid = 480,000

    24,000 @ 20quid = 480,000

    Obviously the financial aspect is not quite as straight-forward as this, with variable costs/income attached with the extra 8k fans but it gives a very simplistic picture of the options.

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    Both views provide valid points. Tettey''s touch is quite heavy and his ball control can sometimes let him down and this is the reason he is not playing for a top team. His role is akin to Yaya but not many in the world come close to him, who defines the role of complete midfielder.

    However, he was clearly told to stay tight to Cazorla and make the Spaniards influence on the game as quiet as possible. He achieved this to perfection. Off the ball he put in huge efforts tracking, blocking, and stopping the runs made by Cazorla. Added to the fantastic man-marking job carried out he ultimately applied the assist to the only goal of the game with a well-time run and shot.

    He''s not the complete player but made the difference on the day both on and off the ball.
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    Next ten predictions...

    Normally the 1st half of the season is fairly predictable with the big teams beating the small teams. The current league table is testament to that.

    At the halfway mark, around Christmas, expect to see 5 or 6 teams hovering between 15-20 points.

    The safety point of 40 points will be higher then needed this year I feel. It could be as low as 34/35 given the gulf in class between the current top 6 [replacing west brom and arsenal] and the current bottom 6.
  5. Turner had a shocking debut against Fulham but that must be put in perspective. The whole team had an off day at Craven Cottage and you can''t write someone off based on one performance.

    He came in against Newcastle and had a solid game. Yes, he was caught out of position for the goal but like others have noted he would not have been expected to be on the pitch and hadn''t had time to adjust to the game.

    At this time it looks like Bassong is definitely the strongest defender but look across to his current partner in defence and you will see a player that many, including myself admittely, has written off completely.
  6. The Leeds triplet have been exactly what Leeds fans said about them:

    Jonny Howson = A good all round footballer that played in an advanced role can pick off teams but has a tendency to go missing further back down the spine.

    Bradley Johnson = Works hard every game and tireless running. Powerful shot but never actually hits the target and can''t pass.

    Robert Snodgrass = The best of the lot, has tricks in abundance and can score goals but lacks pace and can''t cross a decent ball.

    This was the opinion of the majority of Leeds fans shortly after each player left and it''s reflected how they have played for us.

    I''d like to see a 4-4-1-1


    R. Martin Bennett Bassong Garrido

    E. Bennett Tettey Howson Pilkington


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    Bassong Injury

    If the initial reports are correct, he has a hamstring injury.

    Hamstring injury normally means between a 3-6 week absence depending on the severity. He didn''t look to be in agony, either at the moment of injury or later on sitting on the bench which suggests a Grade I or II tear as opposed to the more severe Grade III complete tear.

    Looking at the fixtures, he''ll definitely miss the league games against Liverpool and Chelsea before the international break.

    Could be back in training near the Arsenal game (October 20th) with the home game against Stoke (November 3rd) a more realistic target.

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    Is the Newcastle match on TV?

    The mate sitting in the firstrow is a great ex-pat follower and goes to most games. Sometimes he sits in the VIP Box and occasionally wears a green and yellow wiziwig on his head.
  9. Ben Arfa is suspended in Europe for one more game, so he couldn''t play regardless.

    The Europa Cup is treated in a similar way to the League Cup [Capital One Cup] with managers not wanting to risk their star players. Instead, giving fringe players a chance of a run-out.

    Newcastle remain a very dangerous team, have home advantage and if an unsettled Demba Ba results in him scoring more goals then before it was reported, then any personal problems clearly don''t relate to performances on the pitch at this present time.

    The trouble we now face in the next run of games is that a draw would be an acceptable result but three points will be badly needed.
  10. Every teams fans complain about MOTD every time their shown last. Despite the game being a relatively entertaining 0-0 draw where would you realistically put the game in as a neutral fan?

    If Derby drew 0-0 with Wolves in the premiership, would you rather see the highlights of that or the highlights of a game with goals / a game involving a big team. For the majority of fans, it''s the latter option.

    As for the pundits it''s universally agreed they need to shake it up now. Alan Hansen was decent and still gives a good defensively analysis from time to time but is too old now. Alan Shearer...a great player to watch.
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    Everyone knew Southampton had a good attack but woeful defence and this has proved true so far, but out of their four games they''ve played Man City, Man United, and Arsenal.

    Reading don''t look they have much although look at us last year at home to Spurs, got murdered.

    Way too early to judge at the moment, usual 10-game barometer, but it will more than likely be the usual suspects [us included] down there.
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    Is this Tweet true?

    The initial ESPN table linked by The Rock isn''t wrong but the alignment of the column headers is out of place.

    Last years table clearly shows a correlation between the type of football a team plays and their position in the fair-play table with the exception of Newcastle maybe.

    Not receiving any yellow cards on first-hand is great but getting hammered 5-0 and not picking up a card some would say lacks passion.

    Two penalties given away with no cards received either. Always find that strange. A penalty kick is a game changing decision and most innocuous fouls not warranting a card outside the box are rarely given inside the box.
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    Pilkington Punture Ordeal

    We live in a world of convenience more and more.

    If we have money and can easily pay someone else to do the job, why should we do it ourselves?

    This is the attitude of most today and I completely agree with the ''changing a tire should be on the drivers test'' idea.
  14. The issue ''are we willing to spend'' should be compared with those clubs at the same financial level as us.

    As has been pointed out, Reading/Saints/QPR all have external funds of which we don''t.

    Instead we should compare with Swansea and West Brom. Swansea have bought a few 2-3million pound players (the same as us) along with a bigger signing in Ki Sung Yeong due to the money raised from the Allen and Sinclair deals.

    West Brom and Jeremy Pearce are notoriously tight with their budget but have sustained a decent squad albeit being the ultimate yo-yo club in recent years.

    With a large chunk of the remaining hard debt to be paid this year along with the compensation package for Hughton and Co. don''t expect the 5mill+ players to roll through the door this year.

    Maybe the following summer, Premiership survival depending, with the huge 80% rise in TV Income we could see a true ''marquee'' player but by that time will money be earmarked for the increase of the stadium?
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    Craig Mackail Smith

    Most people view CMS as a target-man (Holt-esque) maybe because of his prolific partnership with Aaron Mclean who was a short, nippy striker.

    He''s actually closer to Jackson in terms of playing style due to his work-rate, constant running and harassing defenders.

    He''s decent at championship level but won''t improve upon what we have especially if Hughton is looking to play 4-2-3-1 (as stated by Tettey).

    In this formation it''s vital that the central attacking midfielder scores 10+goals similar to what Michu looks capable of doing for Swansea. It''s imperative whoever plays there (howson / butterfield / hoolahan / snodgrass) gets into scoring positions and more importantly converts them.

  16. A very similar scenario as to what Newcastle had three years ago when Shay Given left. They had...

    1. Steve Harper

    2. Tim Krul

    3. Fraser Forster

    At the time Harper was No. 1 choice but they faced a dilemma as to what to with two very good, promising, goalkeepers.

    Now Harper is the understudy to an ever-growing Tim Krul with Forster sent out on loan before eventually being sold.

    Long-term I can see Rudd staying and challenging and then taking Ruddy''s place in a couple of years.

    Ruddy will more than likely end up at a upper-midtable side (maybe back at Everton).

    Steer will impress on loan but not face a look-in here and be sold to a top-championship team (Wolves / Cardiff).

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    Who do you tip to go down?

    With 4 weeks and an expected busy period of transfers to go, this is how I view it as it stands...

    QPR have bought well and Hughes has enough about him to keep them safe with the players he has.

    Villa under Lambert will re-discover mid-table

    Sunderland won''t go down under O''Neill

    Clubs that might be relegated: Wigan, West Ham, Reading, Norwich, Swansea, Southampton, Fulham, West Brom, and Stoke.

    With not much difference in overall squad ability between the teams, it boils down to what the managers can get out of the teams.

    Roberto Martinez

    Sam Allaydyce

    Brian Mcdermott

    Chris Hughton

    Michael Laudrap

    Nigel Adkins

    Martin Jol

    Steve Clarke

    Tony Pulis

    A mixture of experience and bright, young managers...

    West Brom, West Ham, and Reading/Swansea (New Owners / New Manager)

  18. Andy Carroll - 35mill

    Joe Allen - 15mill

    Connor Wickham - 9mill

    Jordan Henderson - 18mill

    Howson - 2mill

    Pilkington - 2.5mill

    Snodgrass - 3mill

    Just shows you how good the NCFC board currently are at buying young, promising, English players.

  19. He''s clearly leaving and the bid was clearly purposefully ''leaked'' by Leeds United to start a bidding war. The statement was issued extremely quickly after the media reported a bid with the statement itself virtually reading as a resignation letter with the message ''come and bid''.

    Lambert was on record telling that he had given the Norwich board his transfer targets for the summer. Hence, the NCFC board would know if Villa are seriously interested or not.

    I firmly believe at some point in the next two weeks a deal in the 2-3mill bracket will be sealed and Snodgrass will become the latest player to change Yorkshire for Norfolk.
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    Tierney fit and raring to go

    It does make you wonder how the problem was solved as soon as Lambert left.

    He was a very important player before he got injured and even more so now that Drury has departed.

    Good to see Ayala back in full training as well. Ayala and Bennett has the potential if they can fulfill it, big season for both of them.
  21. Stolen from a West Ham forum (Pilkington got the nod from Holt and Ruddy as their favourite player for us)

    Arsenal - Van Persie

    Aston Villa - Given

    Chelsea - Mata

    Everton - Baines

    Fulham - Dempsey

    Liverpool - Gerrard

    Man City - Kompany

    Man Utd - Rio

    Newcastle - Cabaye

    Norwich - Pilkington

    QPR - Mackie

    Reading - Kebe

    Southampton - Lallana

    Stoke - Ethrington

    Sunderland - Mclean

    Swansea - Vorm

    Tottenham - Bale

    West Brom - Olsson

    West Ham - Cole

    Wigan - Moses

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    First Manager to Go


    1. Big Sam

    2. Steve Clarke

    3. Nigel Adkins
  23. A good manager is more important then having a rich-owner to ultimately succeed (although the money obviously helps).

    WBA - Steve Clarke

    Swansea - Michael Laudrap

    Wigan - Roberto Martinez

    Fulham - Martin Jol

    Southampton - Nigel Adkins

    Stoke - Tony Pulis

    Villa - Paul Lambert

    Clarke is a great coach but can he manage? Pearce is also notoriously tight with his money.

    Swansea based their good season on clean sheets and keeping the ball away, can Laudrap continue this? also without a key player in Sigurdsson

    Wigan will be down there once more.

    Fulham under Jol is a difficult call but have a decent squad, enough to finish bottom-half without relegation.

    I''m a fan of Adkins and has money to spend. Easy to write of a promoted club but for my money will be the highest placed promoted club.

    Stoke could really struggle this year. Never looked convincing and kick and rush is finally starting to die in England.

    Villa under Lambert will be a totally different story to last year, no-where near relegation for me.

    Reading and West Ham depends on signings made but I rate Mcdermott much more then Big Sam.

    Wigan, Swansea, Stoke, West Ham and Reading will be our main competitors.
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    Goal music suggestion

    Point 1 - No goal music

    Point 2 - Daydream Believer 5 mins before kick off

    Point 3 - Entrance music (only for the derby / decisive relegation/promotion match)


  25. You don''t necessarily need raw pace from players, you need the pace upstairs in the brain.

    Using the extreme best example, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas. These are not renowned for their pace (although the latter two aren''t slow either) but have a lightning fast football brain to match their technique.

    We scored a large percentage of our goals from counter-attacking football last year with the only real change in the squad (pace wise) being Kyle Naughton.

    I agree with the OP with where additions are needed with maybe another loan coming in for full-back and a lethal finisher / a penalty box striker to utilise the amount of creativity we now have in the squad (pilkington / howson/ butterfield / hoolahan)