BigFish

Didn't even pretend to tell the truth, he really has nothing at the moment positive to say about Brexit. Difference between reality and his boosterism is stark.

So Moyos plan is to reduce Lamb prices which are already putting UK farmers out of business, substitute with imports and change the eating habits of the UK population. Goodbye Exports, Goodbye Self-sufficiency and hello greater trade deficit. Having sold out the fisherman, the framers are next for the Brexiteers?

😀.........I suspect you might be having a laugh

That is one question WBB, another would be whether this work would be better done by machinary e.g. the UK invests, increases productivity, the jobs become redundant. The idea that they were stealing our jobs was always economically illiterate and usually plain racist. Raising the Living Wage to the Real LIving Wage would have enormous impact on the low skill, low productivity and low wage economy of this country.

Moyo, you outdo even your record for stupidity. A few pages back you came up with the advantage that we could inport lamb tariff free from NZ now we are out of the SM & CU. Today you claim with overproduce in the UK and that is an advantage. So which is it?

Pretty good post @BroadstairsR, it needed to be said (by a Leaver) that there is no benefit for the UK in the decline of the EU. We have become so used to discussing everything through a Brexit prism that the best interests of the UK sometimes get lost. The UK has immediate challenges: a record budget deficit and collapsing economic output are immediate, and largely Covid related. But before that we had long term issues of low productivity, low skills, low investment, low pay (less than is often needed to survive), regional inequality, social inequality. To this we now face the challenges of technology & climate change. Many of these we share with the EU, some we could learn from the EU on solutions and some they could learn from us. Some we will need to work together to address.

Yep, word is Sunak wants to raise them significantly

Blimey @Jools, very reassonable for 2021 😀

Yes. There are thousands of these, largely easy to fix. That is why we have 23 committees supported by a large secretariat to do this. In Brussels. The delay costs money, the mechanism to fix costs money, the fix costs money.

Yep, one of thousands little issues that will keep the 23 new committees busy for years to come. Every one a little cost, none recognised by the Express, Mail & Telegraph. But this is the positive Brexit thread, there must be some benefits. Surely...........

Like everything with Brexit the repalcement is not as good as what we had before. EHIC cards were also valid in Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. The GHIC card isn't. Much like fishing quotas. Seems like some UK fisherman have had their quota actually cut by the wonderful agreement. They used to make up the value by quota swapping with their EU counterparts, this is now banned. Good job Moyo.

There was a border between Spain & Gibraltar manned by British citizens. There will be no border, as the Spanish minister puts it the fence is coming down. There will now effectively be a border between the UK and Gibraltar, manned by Spanish troops.

Not a problem to me, I am a Remainer so I don't have to make out this crap is a success like the Brexwits. But having based this on sovereignity and now effectively given the EU both Northern Ireland and now Gibraltar it is very difficult to argue that this deal was a success.

While in Schengen yes, but if they make the journey from the EU27 country they have residency in to the UK to another EU27 country they may have issues.

Is this the vaccine developed by Turkish immigrants, for a US/German partnership and manufactured in Belgium? I think I think your racism may be clouding your judgement if you think this is a reason to leave.

So Gibraltar's going into Schengen, another Brexwit sovereignity surrender. Pathetic really, I expect @Rock The Boat to expalin this is all part of the plan.

Been away for a few hours, seems like @BroadstairsR has been trolling successfully but has yet to provide any facts and remains so far over the top you need a telescope to see him.

We will do it one day at a time.......inevitable really

Over the top and fact free, typical.

Fair point, well made, I think you have me on this one 😀

I don't know, now the Brexwits cannot peddle their continuous falsehoods because the deal is there for all to see it has improved greatly. In this case I asked you a question that you are either unable or unwilling to answer. There is a regularity border down the North Sea, is NI included in the in the UK economy, or even on what basis could it be included? On the argument on the league table of economies the CEBR's figures cannot have included Q4 2020 or the significant downgrades for growth in 2021 that most economists are making. The Brexwits peddled the "fifth largest economy" tosh to big up the UK. Scotland's independence would further reduce this figure. The problem is that the UK is a relatively large population, this is a factor of that position. Claiming to be the worlds 25th richest country especially as a quarter of that GDP is produced by Remain voting London doesn't quite cut the nativist exceptionalist mustard.

Does this include the £50 Billion NI economy that effectievly gets hived off to the Republic on Friday?

https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/

He is a fully paid up member of the chumocracy with no obvious skills or talent for government.

..........and how about London? It is full of Remoaners and Muslims, and we all know how much you like them.